Fulmer's Quotes

#251
#251
VegasVol said:
But here's how this game works -- hire a new guy, dramatically lower your standards for the new guy in ways you would never tolerate for the fired guy, then by the time the new guy is worse than the fired guy, you fire him (or he bolts before that can happen), so you hire another new guy, give him the same leeway/low-tolerance you gave the last new guy, he does the same, and repeat, and repeat and repeat. So far, no program without a big talent base, has been able to compete for top-5 status (what an SEC title requires in the modern age) no matter who they hired. What they did do is find ways to demean their brand, undermine their traditions, devalue loyalty and their integrity, and suffer worse/more embarrassing seasons. Think about it -- Nebraska fans are thrilled just to get to their conference title game and lose in a close game. We just did that in 2007 and our fans mocked it. It will be a long, dry winter before we get the privilege to mock that again.
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The way I remember it we didn't exactly have high standards for Fulmer either. What was his contract extension for? 8 games? Mediocracy is pretty cool.
 
#253
#253
Vol Mania 21 said:
preseason rankings are a joke. i guess ur one who puts more stock in fulmers teams bein ranked in the preseason instead of where we are at the end of the year. what did it feel like to you to have fulmer who had been in the SEC longer than anyone losing every year to a Saban and Meyer?
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We were ranked during the season and mid-season or later every single season save 1 single season under Fulmer.
 
#255
#255
VegasVol said:
Well, we did just that every single season he was in Knoxville save two, and even in 2005, we pulled an upset over a top-10 team on the road.
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that's simply a lie. He hasn't been competitive with the top of the SEC since roughly 2001, when he gave away the most talent he ever had to a much weaker UGA team. The gap from us to the haves, got enormous over the past 5 years. Them stumbling and leaving us room to have to block a FG to beat a hapless KY squad and to survive a Vandy missed FG to get to the title game isn't anything but dumb, blind luck.
 
#256
#256
utgibbs said:
We've got three LoIs I think.

And one abortive hire so far. Are we trying to beat Bama this way?

Exactly as I'm trying to explain to kennyb - you'd better get it right the first time.
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Not many schools get it right the first time. Again look at Bama and Florida. Look at USC. Now it's too early to say ,but I like to think they got it wrong :) look at South Carolina. As much as we like to think picking the best coach is an easy feat, it's more like a trial and error thing. Finding the diamond in the rough in some cases if you will.
 
#258
#258
Vol Mania 21 said:
get out of here. He wasn't competitive against Meyer, and Saban
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So going to the wire in 2005 and 2006 against Florida wasn't "competing"? Being competitive with LSU in 2005, 2006 & 2007 wasn't "competing? Being competitive with Georgia every season wasn't "competing"? Winning the SEC east twice in his last five years wasn't "competitive"?

Also, let me know when we can get to the place where we can define competing only by reference to the best programs in the conference, as opposed to the Oregon's of the world.
 
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#259
#259
VegasVol said:
So going to the wire in 2005 and 2006 against Florida wasn't "competing"? Being competitive with LSU in 2005, 2006 & 2007 wasn't "competing? Being competitive with Georgia every season wasn't "competing"? Winning the SEC twice in his last five years wasn't "competitive"?

Also, let me know when we can get to the place where we can define competing only by reference to the best programs in the conference, as opposed to the Oregon's of the world.
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are you just making stuff up?
 
#260
#260
BigPapaVol said:
Sweet. Surely we have something to show for it.

Can you help, I can't find anything.
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Yeah, being nationally relevant, nationally discussed, with fun games on national TV, and not losing by 35 at home to a team that has never had a top-10 recruiting class in its life. When you feel us return to the 1970's, then you'll know what we had to "show for it" this last decade under Fulmer. Of course, "fans" like you will likely be long gone by then.
 
#261
#261
VegasVol said:
So going to the wire in 2005 and 2006 against Florida wasn't "competing"? Being competitive with LSU in 2005, 2006 & 2007 wasn't "competing? Being competitive with Georgia every season wasn't "competing"? Winning the SEC twice in his last five years wasn't "competitive"?

Also, let me know when we can get to the place where we can define competing only by reference to the best programs in the conference, as opposed to the Oregon's of the world.
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In all of the examples you quoted other than a declining UGA team we won exactly one of those games. I don't like competing as much as I do winning.
 
#262
#262
VegasVol said:
We were ranked during the season and mid-season or later every single season save 1 single season under Fulmer.
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What i was getting at was how many times since 1999 were we ranked in the top 10 at the end of the year, compared to not being ranked at all. do you have the answer to that?
 
#263
#263
VegasVol said:
Yeah, being nationally relevant, nationally discussed, with fun games on national TV, and not losing by 35 at home to a team that has never had a top-10 recruiting class in its life. When you feel us return to the 1970's, then you'll know what we had to "show for it" this last decade under Fulmer. Of course, "fans" like you will likely be long gone by then.
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we lost 100-37 to our main rivals but I guess being on the road negates those huh? We were also shut out 31-0 at home during Fulmer's tenure
 
#264
#264
BigPapaVol said:
are you just making stuff up?
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You must have missed those games, busy obsessing over the various ways you hate Fulmer and imagining if we just removed Fulmer, we'd be winning SEC titles again. Too bad the Fulmer hatred was all delusional.
 
#266
#266
VegasVol said:
So going to the wire in 2005 and 2006 against Florida wasn't "competing"? Being competitive with LSU in 2005, 2006 & 2007 wasn't "competing? Being competitive with Georgia every season wasn't "competing"? Winning the SEC twice in his last five years wasn't "competitive"?

Also, let me know when we can get to the place where we can define competing only by reference to the best programs in the conference, as opposed to the Oregon's of the world.
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Okay, you surely aren't talking about Tennessee football now. Who is it?
 
#267
#267
VegasVol said:
So going to the wire in 2005 and 2006 against Florida wasn't "competing"? Being competitive with LSU in 2005, 2006 & 2007 wasn't "competing? Being competitive with Georgia every season wasn't "competing"? Winning the SEC twice in his last five years wasn't "competitive"?

Also, let me know when we can get to the place where we can define competing only by reference to the best programs in the conference, as opposed to the Oregon's of the world.
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If that happened any place other than your fantasies, he would still be here.
 
#268
#268
VegasVol said:
So going to the wire in 2005 and 2006 against Florida wasn't "competing"? Being competitive with LSU in 2005, 2006 & 2007 wasn't "competing? Being competitive with Georgia every season wasn't "competing"? Winning the SEC twice in his last five years wasn't "competitive"?

Also, let me know when we can get to the place where we can define competing only by reference to the best programs in the conference, as opposed to the Oregon's of the world.
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16-7 loss in 2005 which was Meyers first year, I'll give you 2006, other than the BS touching the qb's helmet call we shlda won.

the last SEC east title we have was a joke. it was a miracle from God himself that Fulmer won the east
 
#269
#269
utvolpj said:
we lost 100-37 to our main rivals but I guess being on the road negates those huh? We were also shut out 31-0 at home during Fulmer's tenure
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Now you're citing 1994 with our QB injured before the game. Now imagine those kind of losses all the time against teams without top-5 recruiting talent year after year. Feel better? Cause that's what the Majors-era 70's and most of the first half of the 80's felt like. And we're moving back there fast, but even further down.
 
#270
#270
VegasVol said:
Yeah, being nationally relevant, nationally discussed, with fun games on national TV, and not losing by 35 at home to a team that has never had a top-10 recruiting class in its life. When you feel us return to the 1970's, then you'll know what we had to "show for it" this last decade under Fulmer. Of course, "fans" like you will likely be long gone by then.
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oh, your hypothetical silliness about Fulmer's losing season subsiding is for real then. Dude just wasn't going to get our squad killed any more. You could sense it, right? Don't let those pesky years of having no prayer against UF or UA slow your roll. We were getting it back on the track. How could I have missed it?

Your last sentence is patently retarded. I suffered through sorry coaching from Fulmer for years. Why would more of the same run me off?

Hell, sounds like his firing might run you off. Then where would this place turn for all the invaluable gambling advice and selective year stats?
 
#271
#271
VegasVol said:
Now you're citing 1994 with our QB injured before the game. Now imagine those kind of losses all the time against teams without top-5 recruiting talent year after year. Feel better? Cause that's what the Majors-era 70's and most of the first half of the 80's felt like. And we're moving back there fast, but even further down.
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It's darkest before dawn. Saban came in and lost to lafeyette and now look at the midget go.
 
#272
#272
Vol Mania 21 said:
16-7 loss in 2005 which was Meyers first year, I'll give you 2006, other than the BS touching the qb's helmet call we shlda won.

the last SEC east title we have was a joke. it was a miracle from God himself that Fulmer won the east
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A going away present. The Almighty knew it was time.
 
#273
#273
VegasVol said:
You must have missed those games, busy obsessing over the various ways you hate Fulmer and imagining if we just removed Fulmer, we'd be winning SEC titles again. Too bad the Fulmer hatred was all delusional.
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Exactly. I'm delusional as you're making stuff up and hiding behind BS fantasyland hypothetical wins to bolster your argument.

Weren't you mentioning something about knowing when one's argument sucks?

Another aside: all this fan delusion was crazy accurate regarding Fulmer's firing for cause. Wonder how that works?
 
#274
#274
VegasVol said:
Now you're citing 1994 with our QB injured before the game. Now imagine those kind of losses all the time against teams without top-5 recruiting talent year after year. Feel better? Cause that's what the Majors-era 70's and most of the first half of the 80's felt like. And we're moving back there fast, but even further down.
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why can't I use 94 when you use 98 like it's relevant now? And I noticed you skipped the scores in 07

we've been on a slide for the last few years yet you ignore it. It wasn't started by Dooley or Kiffin
 
#275
#275
Vol Mania 21 said:
get out of here. He wasn't competitive against Meyer, and Saban
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VegasVol said:
So going to the wire in 2005 and 2006 against Florida wasn't "competing"? Being competitive with LSU in 2005, 2006 & 2007 wasn't "competing? Being competitive with Georgia every season wasn't "competing"? Winning the SEC twice in his last five years wasn't "competitive"?

Also, let me know when we can get to the place where we can define competing only by reference to the best programs in the conference, as opposed to the Oregon's of the world.
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Your answer would be "NO".

com·pet·i·tive Adjective /kəmˈpetətiv/

2.Having or displaying a strong desire to be more successful than others

3.As good as or better than others of a comparable nature
 
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