Fulmer's Graduation Rate

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HomeGrownVol

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I was listening to the always reliable Doc, Jeff and Heather show this morning and a caller mentioned that there was a story in a Chicago newspaper about Fulmer and the graduation rate during his tenure.

He said that he article suggested that he only graduated 8-11% of players (I could have misunderstood - I was driving). They were using this statistic from Fulmer to show that he was not a good fit for Notre Dame's academic standard. Did anyone else hear this or see this anywhere? If that is true then there is good reason that recruiting fell apart at the end for Fulmer - hard to convince mom to let her child go and not graduate.

Of course Fulmer was never a real threat for that job. I saw on Chicago Tribunes site their top 13 choices:

Top Choices

It's kind of humorous.....(my favorite is Tony Dungy)

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No way it's only 8-10%. Just no way. There's tons of ppl on the football team that will never play and actually need that diploma.
 
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SEC rates were released on the SEC Blog on ESPN a few weeks back. I think it was right around 50% or so, and it is entirely reflective on Fulmer's tenure. It was the lowest in the conference.
 
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Fulmer had a bad season using a strict dataset that made it look like we graduated 11% of our scholarship players from one particular class due to transfers, players leaving early, and some taking 5 years to graduate instead of 4.

This was all part of the LBM witchhunt after the 1998 season.
 
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And there is no way in hell 52% was the worst in the SEC... Ole Miss and Mississippi State have been consistently turning in <30% classes for years.
 
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HomeGrownVol said:
I was listening to the always reliable Doc, Jeff and Heather show this morning and a caller mentioned that there was a story in a Chicago newspaper about Fulmer and the graduation rate during his tenure.

He said that he article suggested that he only graduated 8-11% of players (I could have misunderstood - I was driving). They were using this statistic from Fulmer to show that he was not a good fit for Notre Dame's academic standard. Did anyone else hear this or see this anywhere? If that is true then there is good reason that recruiting fell apart at the end for Fulmer - hard to convince mom to let her child go and not graduate.

Of course Fulmer was never a real threat for that job. I saw on Chicago Tribunes site their top 13 choices:

Top Choices

It's kind of humorous.....(my favorite is Tony Dungy)

(if this is posted already, please merge)
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No pic of Fulmer. Just the word "seriously"
 
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It&#8217;s called over signing. Bear Bryant was the master of it. He would sign 55 or 60 freshmen ever year and about 20 of them lasted long enough to graduate. A movie was even made about him taking his team to desert to weed out the players. Now days coaches just have more subtle ways of kicking players off the team that can't cut.
 
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Stupid article. Coaches recruit what the school's admissions policy allows them to recruit. At Notre Dame, Fulmer would recruit athletes that met that school's academic requirements, just as Kelly or anyone else would. Past that, it's a question of X's and O's. Coaches will always recruit at the lowest common denominator. That's how the game is played. I would suggest that a lot of Cincinnati's current players would not qualify for admission to Notre Dame. That means Kelly will have to adjust and recruit within the parameters established by the school. ND would take Meyer in a heartbeat, but I would conjecture that a significant number of Florida's players wouldn't be academically acceptable to Notre Dame, and they have the same off the field problems that Fulmer had.
That writer would never write such an article about Meyer though. The difference being that Meyer is a hot commodity while Fulmer is a washed up has-been.
 
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