Fulmer Trust Meter. A Poll

[tennrich1]

This is now passed from being a complete clusterf**k to a disaster.

I’ve no idea what self respecting man is going to take the job now.

Jumping off cliffs your hobby? Please folks let’s show some maturity and calmness...the reactions are becoming more damaging than the events (prob not but using hyperbole for effect)....

 

[CAVPUT]

Who out there cares more about UT than a former player and coach? Currie? Kiffin? Gruden? No....Fulmer. if he was sabotaging anything, it was for the good of the program. Phil is the most maligned me in UT history and he's still here trying to help. That's loyalty.

Going on history and results, I'm going to have to agree with you. If I have to believe and "side" with someone, it won't be Haslam or anyone he's pushed on the university. At this point, Haslam and his guys need to be removed. Once clear of his influence, we can work toward rising from the ashes of this burnt to the ground program.

 

[AM64]

Does that really justify the backstabbing and ruining of Currie? To me, this is an ethical issue.

Intentionally sabotaging the coaching search for power at the expense of the university just isn't right in any way, shape, or form.

Edit: I'm NOT defending Currie's ineptitude however.

Where is there proof or even evidence that anyone other than Currie led to Currie's failure? Who sabotaged and how did someone sabotage the coaching search?

If you are talking the unknown person who leaked info about Schiano before the deal could be shoved down our throats in the dark of night, that person should be applauded for saving Tennessee from another variant of the coach just fired.

 

[KBVol]

Welp, looks like a vast majority trust Phil, as they should........sorry buddy.

 

[Chad F]

Fulmer as AD is probably a lot different than Fulmer as coach.

First, it’s been said that Phil didn’t hire assistants well because he “was afraid of hiring his replacement.” The dynamic is certainly different as AD where your success is dependent on the winning of the coaches you hire. There’s no competition from a potential replacement.

Second, while Fulmer has not been coaching for a decade, he has to know what to look for in someone to lead our football program.

Third, Fulmer’s strengths always seemed more like those of a CEO, not as a tactician (the X’s and O’s Of in-game coaching). That would be more suitable for AD duties.

Fourth, isn’t Fulmer less likely to be a puppet of Haslam? Or anyone else?

Fifth (and last), there is no reason to doubt that he loves our university. We might question other things, but that is not a debate.

I don’t know the situation as well as some of you, but those are my initial thoughts. At the end of the day, I just want strong leadership and good decision-making for our program.

 

[laparka]

I mean, I'm still salty that we almost had Leach... but idk.

If only they could have fired Currie this time yesterday before it came out that we were on the cusp of getting Leach.
Fulmer would have unanimously been looked at like Manna from Heaven to save us from this nightmare.

 

[TNnative]

So now we have a second poll. I vote we have several throughout the day. I imagine the results will change as more is understood.

Tell me when you will make one. I will make another 1 hour later.

 

[deezvols]

This is now passed from being a complete clusterf**k to a disaster.

I’ve no idea what self respecting man is going to take the job now.

Kiffin it is... lol

 

[Fayettvol]

Just dont turn your back on the guy lol. Its called the fulmer cup for a reason.

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

Fulmer as AD will be a HUGE mistake!

All serious coaches want to know who their boss/AD is going to be for several years and that there's stability at the AD position.

Fulmer is NOT that guy and he's NOT qualified to be our AD.

Blackburn should have been hired as our AD after Hart and most on here know that.

Right this minute, before the press release of Fulmer as our AD, we all need to protest and blow up social media to hire Blackburn as our AD right NOW!

Blackburn is a Tennessee guy and has worked in the AD before and he will revamp our AD, get things in good order and he'll hire us a great coaching staff that knows how to recruit against anyone because he'll know that his job is also on the line.

We all need to be screaming HIRE BLACKBURN NOW and get the fan protest going as fast as we can so we get a good coaching staff hired and they can get busy recruiting good players.

VFL...GBO!!!

 

[NEVolFan]

100% Trust in Phillip Fulmer

You know his buy out will be 12 million this time around.

I hear all the stuff about love of the university... but this goes beyond that, I believe he would try to do the right thing... but will he be able to do so while those above him are in still calling the shots. Seems like the university is at a cross roads... clean the house or business as usual on the hill.


I agree Currie was a hot mess, but there is clearly too much more going on than just him screwing this up.

 

[AM64]

Fulmer as AD will be a HUGE mistake!

All serious coaches want to know who their boss/AD is going to be for several years and that there's stability at the AD position.

Fulmer is NOT that guy and he's NOT qualified to be our AD.

Blackburn should have been hired as our AD after Hart and most on here know that.

Right this minute, before the press release of Fulmer as our AD, we all need to protest and blow up social media to hire Blackburn as our AD right NOW!

Blackburn is a Tennessee guy and has worked in the AD before and he will revamp our AD, get things in good order and he'll hire us a great coaching staff that knows how to recruit against anyone because he'll know that his job is also on the line.

We all need to be screaming HIRE BLACKBURN NOW and get the fan protest going as fast as we can so we get a good coaching staff hired and they can get busy recruiting good players.

VFL...GBO!!!

BS. We had good ADs before we started hiring damn business majors for the position.

Blackburn seems to have done a pretty good job for UTC, but where exactly has Blackburn been, and what has he been doing since he quit at UTC? In meltdown somewhere? Methods and people that work in lower level positions don't necessarily scale up. We've just proven that with a couple of coaches.

 

[TNnative]

Fulmer as AD is probably a lot different than Fulmer as coach.

First, it’s been said that Phil didn’t hire assistants well because he “was afraid of hiring his replacement.” The dynamic is certainly different as AD where your success is dependent on the winning of the coaches you hire. There’s no competition from a potential replacement.

Second, while Fulmer has not been coaching for a decade, he has to know what to look for in someone to lead our football program.

Third, Fulmer’s strengths always seemed more like those of a CEO, not as a tactician (the X’s and O’s Of in-game coaching). That would be more suitable for AD duties.

Fourth, isn’t Fulmer less likely to be a puppet of Haslam? Or anyone else?

Fifth (and last), there is no reason to doubt that he loves our university. We might question other things, but that is not a debate.

I don’t know the situation as well as some of you, but those are my initial thoughts. At the end of the day, I just want strong leadership and good decision-making for our program.

Being a backstabber and undermining others to gain rule just leads to more of it. If any of these actions violate state or federal law, those involved need to be prosecuted. It isn't strong leadership. It isn't good decision making. Before you know it, it turns into gang violence. Not just in exaggerations, I mean literally. Anybody ready to see that? I'm not.


I am not mad at one side or the other, I am mad at both. Grow up, you SOBs. That's enough.

 

[AM64]

You can't just turn off the ability to sabotage like a light switch. I don't trust him at all. The toothpaste is out of the tube, and my guess is hearing about that isn't going to make many other coaching options trust him either.

I mean if the new coach doesn't do what Fulmer wants, is he going to sabotage them too? You know that's what coaches are thinking.

So you think the revolutionaries who sabotaged a king named George were traitors who were beyond redemption? Sometimes "legitimate" power is wrong and is corrupt and has the strength of position to hide it's corruption. We generally call people willing to go out on a limb to expose problems like that "whistle blowers" and appreciate the difference they make.

Would you side with the side exposing corruption or the "legitimate" power behind the corruption in a trial all about corruption.

 

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[AM64]

Fulmer as AD is probably a lot different than Fulmer as coach.

First, it’s been said that Phil didn’t hire assistants well because he “was afraid of hiring his replacement.” The dynamic is certainly different as AD where your success is dependent on the winning of the coaches you hire. There’s no competition from a potential replacement.

Second, while Fulmer has not been coaching for a decade, he has to know what to look for in someone to lead our football program.

Third, Fulmer’s strengths always seemed more like those of a CEO, not as a tactician (the X’s and O’s Of in-game coaching). That would be more suitable for AD duties.

Fourth, isn’t Fulmer less likely to be a puppet of Haslam? Or anyone else?

Fifth (and last), there is no reason to doubt that he loves our university. We might question other things, but that is not a debate.

I don’t know the situation as well as some of you, but those are my initial thoughts. At the end of the day, I just want strong leadership and good decision-making for our program.

Actually you probably know the situation as well as anyone else, and from you analysis far better than most. I fail to understand how someone who took a football team on an interim basis and made it work better is guilty of anything other than being a better coach. From the poll numbers, there are apparently far too many people here incapable of understanding logical analysis like you presented.

 

[AM64]

Fulmer as AD will be a HUGE mistake!

All serious coaches want to know who their boss/AD is going to be for several years and that there's stability at the AD position.

Fulmer is NOT that guy and he's NOT qualified to be our AD.

Blackburn should have been hired as our AD after Hart and most on here know that.

Right this minute, before the press release of Fulmer as our AD, we all need to protest and blow up social media to hire Blackburn as our AD right NOW!

Blackburn is a Tennessee guy and has worked in the AD before and he will revamp our AD, get things in good order and he'll hire us a great coaching staff that knows how to recruit against anyone because he'll know that his job is also on the line.

We all need to be screaming HIRE BLACKBURN NOW and get the fan protest going as fast as we can so we get a good coaching staff hired and they can get busy recruiting good players.

VFL...GBO!!!

Since you know so damn much. Where is Blackburn, and what has he been doing since leaving UTC?

 

[billwilson]

Much better than Currie, he bleeds orange. I know some don't like but he has gave his entire life to this University.

I don't think he gave anything. He made 10's of millions and continues to draw a ck for doing nothing at all.

 

[GRN1926]

Eat our own.

Everyone wants Currie gone, "someone needs to do something"

IF Fulmer did something to get Currie fired you are all like, "he is a back stabber, can't trust him"

Haha what the hell! IF he did that, isn't it a good thing? Helped overthrow a tyrant?

 

[Carp]

This man bleeds orange and is highly respected. Definitely trust him over Chicken Currie.

 

[AM64]

Eat our own.

Everyone wants Currie gone, "someone needs to do something"

IF Fulmer did something to get Currie fired you are all like, "he is a back stabber, can't trust him"

Haha what the hell! IF he did that, isn't it a good thing? Helped overthrow a tyrant?

Agree, it's amazing. Not sure what's worse out and out stupidity or infidelity to a cause - people can't even celebrate Currie being gone after being so desperate for it to happen. I remain convinced single biggest obstacle to common sense is the simple minded belief in any rumor no matter how absurd - don't think, just follow the flock over the cliff.

Fulmer, if he had an active part in getting rid of Currie, deserves a medal and the job.

 

[Born a VOL]

much better than currie, he bleeds orange. I know some don't like but he has gave his entire life to this university.

100% agree

 

[Redstater]

A spirit who insisted on being referred to as Gen. RN distinctly said "Should've kept Fulmer" but also mentioned something about single wing being a superior offense, can't believe what they charge for food these days at Shields–Watkins Field and too bad Sewanee and Maryville aren't on the schedule anymore.