Fulmer says 'we didn't all of a sudden get stupid as coaches'

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#51
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dan4vols said:
Not sure if you were asking me but I think they play soft. It shows in their run blocking mostly but they are a bit better this year. They need some o line guys who are mean as hell and drive block like a bull in a phone booth. I admitedly don't know a lot about o line technique, I'd call that style I guess.
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every post i make is directed towards you just so i can see your avatar...
ok, ok, ok i'll stop...
 
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kptvol said:
What's your biggest gripe about the OL technique?
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There's a lot of what I refer to as "the grab and steer". What it involves is the OL grabbing the DL under the armpits and more or less steering him one way or another, leg drive optional (and rarely taken).

What it totally overlooks is the fact that, in the running game, a stalemate goes to the defense. The purpose of run blocking is to open up holes for one or more backs to get through and provide them the most room possible. A good DL coach will teach his guys that there's nothing wrong with a stalemate; in fact, it should happen in roughly 80% of the line battles over the span of a game. That's an enormous benefit to the defense; it allows LBs to fly around in the run game and make plays all over the place.

The grab and steer results in a ton of stalemates, because with that "technique" it's literally the best that can result. If the best that can happen is something that favors the defense, how on earth can it continue to be taught and accepted?

Good line play has three components:
1) Violent punch -- it should rock a DL back on contact
2) Work to extension -- same logic as an RB stiff-arming a defender; it uses all the large muscles of the arms and provides separation
3) Leg drive -- Because, after all, you're trying to move someone from a place he doesn't want to vacate

Until there is a coach at UT that teaches and continually hammers on these points, the offense will struggle no matter who's calling the plays.
 
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The players are just echoing the comments of their out-coached, past his prime, arrogant, over paid leader.

Fulmer is a goon and walks and talks like he is untouchable. All I have to say is he better have his coaching shoes on the rest of the year. He hasn't seen anything yet in terms of heat if Ears, Brother Richt, and Saint Nick lower the axe on him. If that happens this thing is going to get ugly. Real Ugly.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
The real problems the last few years have been on the offensive line. I can't believe the technique that's being used; if it's being taught that way, then fire the coach, and if it's not being taught that way, then either get new players in there or else devote more practice time to it.

Most linemen coming out of high school have been able to strictly rely on their brute strength to be able to block, which doesn't fly at the college level. And yet it seems like the last five years has just been "forget technique, let's focus 100% on the schemes", to the detriment of the offense as a whole.
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Have you forgotten what Fulmer's "claim to fame" is?
The coaching of the O-Line is typical of the way it used to be done. Sound like anything else going on with our program? (I am sorry if you already pointed that out, I did not go back and read the whole thread)
 
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T-TownVol said:
Have you forgotten what Fulmer's "claim to fame" is?
The coaching of the O-Line is typical of the way it used to be done. Sound like anything else going on with our program?
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I don't see any resemblance between the line of the last five years compared to the line of roughly 1990-2002.

And if things really were "the way it used to be", we'd be seeing a four-point stance and shoulder blocks.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
I don't see any resemblance between the line of the last five years compared to the line of roughly 1990-2002.

And if things really were "the way it used to be", we'd be seeing a four-point stance and shoulder blocks.
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You are correct...in the 1990 - 2002 we actually moved the ball

shoulder blocks are older than that
 
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T-TownVol said:
You are correct...in the 1990 - 2002 we actually moved the ball

shoulder blocks are older than that
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Shoulder blocks started going out sometime around 1942, but it was another 36 years before open hands and extension was allowed.

Watching the line the last five years, you'd think that innovation has never really caught on.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Shoulder blocks started going out sometime around 1942, but it was another 36 years before open hands and extension was allowed.

Watching the line the last five years, you'd think that innovation has never really caught on.
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Which was my, not said very well, original point
 
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until the u.c.l.a. fiasco, i was a die hard fulmerite (even though i thought he should have canned chavis years ago). now, i'm convinced. i hope he doesn't embarrass himself any more or tarnish his legacy. time was that i could fondly hope for a shot at the national championship. now, even an s.e.c. ring is looking as formidable a challenge as everest.
 
#62
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I believe that Phil should always have a job at UT. It is just time for his job title to change.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I'm still waiting to see any evidence that anyone is saying the staff "got stupid all of a sudden."
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the implication that we "all of a sudden" figured out that he's in over his head clearly presumes that we've been stupid for a long time.
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abvol said:
Fulmer says 'we didn't all of a sudden get stupid as coaches' : Football : GoVolsXtra.com

Josh Briscoe's comments.
“It makes us mad as a team,” he said. “The ones who are saying that, most of them probably didn’t play football. They all don’t or have never coached football.

No we don't coach but we also don't make 3 mil a yr.:banghead2:
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Yeah, I listened to some of his press conference today. I heard him make the comment about all the wins that this staff have put together over the years and they just didn't get stupid all of a sudden. I also heard him make the comment that probably 99 percent of the fans never played football or any other sport. I think this was in responce to a question regarding fans booing. I heard these comments from some players on earlier interviews and I thought they were arrogant and immature comments. Now I know where this stuff originates, from the Head Coach. This is immature and unacceptable behavior on his part that will only serve to furthur alienate the fan base. Fulmer seems to think anyone that questions his ability is stupid and should shut up. No doubt in my mind. His time is up. He needs to go.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
We just don't understand that this is all part of his strategy to get back to ATL. Following that 2007 blueprint to a T.
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Exactly. Everybody in the media have been saying Tennessee sucks but Florida didn't look all that great either. Just start winning, baby, and we can back into Atlanta again!!! :whistling: :haha_oh:
 
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AllVolYall said:
This is immature and unacceptable behavior on his part that will only serve to furthur alienate the fan base. Fulmer seems to think anyone that questions his ability is stupid and should shut up.
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I agree about the effect of the comment, but I disagree that it's some sort of bad behavior. A common frustration among football coaches is that most people generally don't have a clue about the nuances of football. The problem for Phil is that no matter how true it may be, he can't say stuff like like this because inevitably it gets interpreted this way and he comes off as being holier than thou.
 
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What pisses me off about this, is the fact the Fulmer is basically calling out the fans on this one.
 
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nickknx865 said:
What pisses me off about this, is the fact the Fulmer is basically calling out the fans on this one.
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It's just ridiculous to think that is what he meant. In the same article he said:
“Because somebody boos in the stands doesn’t mean you don’t have the support. That just means they’re passionate about what they do. They just want to win,”
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Sounds like he completely understands why fans are po'd.
 
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GAVol said:
It's just ridiculous to think that is what he meant. In the same article he said:

Sounds like he completely understands why fans are po'd.
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Well, did you expect him to say, "The fans are completley happy with me right now?"
 
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