Fulmer is on his way...

#30
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VolDad said:
The OP was so outrageous it had to be made by someone on heavy medication.

If that is to complicated then try this:

See Dick.

See Dick snort Coke.

See Dick write letter.

Bad Dick Bad!
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Thanks,that's what I thought. Didn't need the first grade equivalent.
 
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#32
Someone that "bleeds Orange"...check
Someone that has strong ties to the area...check
UT Alum...check
Someone that understands College Athletics...check
Someone with integrity...check
Someone that meets the educational requirements...check


Remove the name and just look at the qualities...some of you for some reason have an apparent hatred, or "strong dislike" for CPF and I don't understand that. You want to blame him for everything that is wrong at UT and thats not reality. If you will look back, he said from the go that hiring Kiffin was a mistake...and he was blasted by many of you for saying that...but he was right, and the Kiffin hire is why we are at the point we are at right now.

The last few years we were not as successful as we would like and yes that falls on the Head Coach, I am not arguing that the timing of his departure was not right, I am simply saying there is NO ONE on this planet that would put more of his heart and soul into that job than Phillip Fulmer.

That being said, i don't believe it will ever happen though I wish it would. And those of you that continuously bring up the "buy out", remember that UT removed him, and Mike Hamilton is the one that kept extending contract after contract even when it was evident that things were going down hill.

Raising money at UT is not that hard, I certainly don't give any of my donations to UT because of Mike Hamilton, I give it in support of our Athletics program, mainly the football program, and in support of our states finest educational institution.

There will probably come a time, maybe a year, two or ten that those of you that so whole heartidly supported CPF ouster, will support CDDs ouster as well. Its the nature of the buisiness and I hope that CDD is very successful here and is still here as our HC in 20 years, but the odds of that happening are very small, and I realize that as Im sure CDD does. Coaches come and they go, some voluntarily, some not, but one fact remains, they will eventually go, none of them, Coach Fulmer, Coach Dooley or even Coach Neyland are bigger than the University or the football program. It was here when I was born, it will be here when I die, same for each of you.

I am not arguing for firing MH and hiring PF, in the end it doesn't matter. Every 4 years we go to vote for a President of our country, that person is elected and within a year many of the people that voted for them will be complaining about the job that they are doing...thats the way it goes, and for people in high positions, thats the way it will always be. Things will never ever completely go "our way" and in result, we will complain and want someone else. I submit to all of you, that none of us know the position that these people are in because we cant understand it without having been in the position ourselves. You cant understand something fully without having been there yourself. I reluctantly support President Obama because he is our President. I will not agree with everything that he does while in office, but he will always have my respect.

Thats what all this is about, respect. I screamed and cussed like many of you while CPF was our Head Coach, and like many of you it was bitter sweet the day that he was removed from that position. Support him or not, the very least that you could do is refrain from bashing him at every opportunity. There is no one here that has done more for Tennessee Football than Phillip Fulmer, and he deserves respect, he has earned it. Those of you that say "well if he loved it so much, why didnt he step down?" Let me ask you this, how difficult would it be for you to let go of something that you love so much, that you have put your heart and soul into, especially when you honestly feel like you could "right the ship"? Coach Fulmer felt like he could fix it, and he didnt trust that there was anyone else that could love that job the way that he did...so why..why would he voluntarily step aside and leave it in the hands of someone else? None of you would, and neither would I.

Many of you will laugh, and some will have some negative comments to what I have said, and thats fine, I don't care, not at all. You have your opinion and I have mine, but you expect to be able to come in these forums and spew your negative remarks for all of us and anyone else to read, you can expect that those of us that appreciate and respect that person to reply.
 
#33
#33
VolAlumNGatrland said:
just wondering why people can't get past the notion of a former football coach being the AD?

Yes that's the way it was done in the 'good ole days'. D1 athletics is so much more about money and politics than actual athletics. Further with the proliferation of men's and women's sports teams, the AD has to be concerned with more than just football while relegating the other sports to the position of an after thought. While Hamilton may not be the best guy for the position, maybe he's too detached from the athletics and all too focused on the fund raising, I don't see how Fulmer, of all people, is an upgrade in that office.

I know its unpopular around here, but I would love to see UT bring in someone competent with a bit of a proven track record either as an AD or in the Business world. I know many on here like to even look for coaches to come back to UT who may have been here in one capacity or another (lovie smith, john gruden, etc). Does it really matter? Do you think coaches have that as a primary consideration in their mind when taking a job or looking to progress in the coaching ranks? NO. If you think they do - how many coaches do you see flocking to walk the sidelines of Rocky Top? (or of their alma mater/school where they coached coming up) Few and far between.

Some loved Fulmer, some hated him - I was indifferent to the man most of the time. Once it was apparent he was slipping, I was all in favor of his ouster - it just came a couple years too late. I don't think a man you fired for doing a poor job should then be re-hired and given a job with even greater responsibility, especially since much of the role of AD as far as students are concerned are areas he was lax, inefficient, or down right incompetent in when he was coach.

If Hamilton goes, Look around for an actual upgrade..... Vols need to look outside the UT Bubble sometimes......JMO
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Well said. It seems to me that all of UT's troubles have come from all the coach's actions and not the AD. Most fans agree it was time for Fulmer to go. No one here wants to see Pearl go no matter what he is guilty of. Kiffin was only hired because of him bringing Monte, and no one expected him to bolt after one year. Dooley is looking to be a great hire more and more every day. I just don't see the reason for the anger toward Hamilton. It seems a bit misplaced to me.
 
#34
#34
1allvol said:
Someone that "bleeds Orange"...check
Someone that has strong ties to the area...check
UT Alum...check
Someone that understands College Athletics...check
Someone with integrity...check
Someone that meets the educational requirements...check

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How many of those are actually in the job description?

Regarding education requirements; does Fulmer have an MBA?
 
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#35
#35
1allvol said:
Someone that "bleeds Orange"...check
Someone that has strong ties to the area...check
UT Alum...check
Someone that understands College Athletics...check
Someone with integrity...check
Someone that meets the educational requirements...check
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You left out winning
 
#36
#36
I think the real question in OP's post was whether or not they're going to punish kiffin. If they suspend Pearl because he lied then it could usher in an age where they punish coaches, and honestly I think it's a good thing. Coaches like Kiffin and Calipari just move around destroying programs for their own gain.
 
#37
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USCGVOL said:
To fix all this. He just told me so. JK
I would like to start and say I am very excited about our NSD. I think we got some great kids and DD did a great job putting this class together.
Welcome to the hill guys!
But of course I should have known that some article would come out to rain on my parade. All this crud about the violations made by the biggest mistake in UT's history just had to come out while I was doing my happy dance about our new recruits.
Well instead of sulking and drinking... I am trying to look at this in a good way. I think this will be the end of MH. Its time for him to move on and its time for Phil to step up. He loves the program and he has good connections. I think he would do anything and everything for the good of the school.
some Q's:
Would he be paying himself for the buyout? Or would he stop taking the money after he took the AD job?
Do you think we will get hit hard by the NCAA?
Can they possibly punish Kiffy and bro?
Go Vols!!:loco:
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Epic fail
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#38
#38
As much as i love Fulmer and trust me i loooooove Fulmer i dont know about him and the AD job. Not with the way the Donors were clamoring for his head when he was the HC. I do think it would be wise to have him in the offices somewhere as just a guy to bounce ideas off of. Nobody loves orange like PF did. If we hired someone with more business savvy than athletics experience he would be a great consultant for that person
 
#39
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USCGVOL said:
To fix all this. He just told me so. JK
I would like to start and say I am very excited about our NSD. I think we got some great kids and DD did a great job putting this class together.
Welcome to the hill guys!
But of course I should have known that some article would come out to rain on my parade. All this crud about the violations made by the biggest mistake in UT's history just had to come out while I was doing my happy dance about our new recruits.
Well instead of sulking and drinking... I am trying to look at this in a good way. I think this will be the end of MH. Its time for him to move on and its time for Phil to step up. He loves the program and he has good connections. I think he would do anything and everything for the good of the school.
some Q's:
Would he be paying himself for the buyout? Or would he stop taking the money after he took the AD job?
Do you think we will get hit hard by the NCAA?
Can they possibly punish Kiffy and bro?
Go Vols!!:loco:
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He cant get a coaching job .. so why not ?? GO VOLS !!!! :eek:lol:
 
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#42
Rudy123 said:
Hamilton is a fund raising machine. Unless he really, really screws up, he will be allowed to stay here as AD. Remember, we don't have his fund raising skills, then how do we pay for the new facilities?
If he stumbles along and gets lucky with a good hire now and then, he will stay here.
It is all about money. We are one of the few athletic programs that make a profit year in and year out. Not many in that club!
I don't want to admit is but Hamilton stays!!!
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He did "really,really screw up",friend..
 
#43
#43
USCGVOL said:
To fix all this. He just told me so. JK
I would like to start and say I am very excited about our NSD. I think we got some great kids and DD did a great job putting this class together.
Welcome to the hill guys!
But of course I should have known that some article would come out to rain on my parade. All this crud about the violations made by the biggest mistake in UT's history just had to come out while I was doing my happy dance about our new recruits.
Well instead of sulking and drinking... I am trying to look at this in a good way. I think this will be the end of MH. Its time for him to move on and its time for Phil to step up. He loves the program and he has good connections. I think he would do anything and everything for the good of the school.
some Q's:
Would he be paying himself for the buyout? Or would he stop taking the money after he took the AD job?
Do you think we will get hit hard by the NCAA?
Can they possibly punish Kiffy and bro?
Go Vols!!:loco:
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please get off Phil's jock! The man drove the football program into the ditch! Are you wanting to sit back and watch him drive the entire AD off the proverbial cliff??????????
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#44
#44
tvolsfan said:
I'm waiting for another 'jk' at the end.
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#45
#45
PayingUTKTuition said:
"Failure to monitor" is likely a lesser charge than we could have gotten. That is what Michigan was charged with in the training violations scandal and , if I remember correctly, that is what Alabama got with the textbooks scandal. Kiffen was a huge mistake. I am still curious how a team which is only supposed to be able to offer 15 scholarships this year signed 30 players. I know the appeal argument, but that still does not sound legal to me. USC may be sorry they hired him too in the long run.
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Me either. I feel like I am a fairly intelligent person (well not an idiot) but I don't understand any of these recruiting numbers. USC is on probation and signs 30. And a few other schools that are already at full strength sign 4 and 5 over the limit every year. I understand that you can back count and sign and place but there are some numbers for some of these teams where Einstein couldn't figure the numbers out.

In any event, I also agree with a lot of the other comments on here. Today's AD is much more than the good ol' boy football coach like it use to be. I would like to see Phil in some sort of position at UT because he has been All Vol for over 40 years, but, at the same time, I do not want him making any decisions.
 
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TennesseeOrange said:
I think the real question in OP's post was whether or not they're going to punish kiffin. If they suspend Pearl because he lied then it could usher in an age where they punish coaches, and honestly I think it's a good thing. Coaches like Kiffin and Calipari just move around destroying programs for their own gain.
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:yes:
 
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