Fromm is special right? Well so is JG and stats agree

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I am a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. In 2015, Blake Bortles threw for 4,400 yards and 35 td's. And people would compare his numbers with other QB's in the league and point out how they compared favorably.

Except there was one problem. Those numbers were hollow because they were accomplished after the game had been decided.

Midway through the 3rd quarter, Tennessee had 7 vs. WVU and the game was already over. Against Florida, they had 6 points until close to the end of the 3rd quarter and the game was over. Halfway through the 3rd quarter, Tennessee had 0 vs. Georgia and the game was over.

Not to mention, the whole "body of work" argument.

JG is a tough kid. He's not very good. Sorry
 
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JG never looks like he is having fun. I know you want to be cool and collective as a QB, but show something ever now and again
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Jake Fromm- 16/22 185 zero TDs and zero INTs

Jarret Guarantano- 13/21 143 2 TDs and zero INTs

These stats even though Fromm has the much, much better team around him. Haters must hate stats.
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Fromm’s currently sitting at 25th in the nation in total QBR.

JG’s at 59th, which is about as average as it gets.

Having said that, Tennessee has lots of problems, but JG ain’t one of ‘em.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I think JG is throwing the ball well this season. He doesn't seem to see the field at times -- missing open receivers, and he really isn't a run threat. I really believe that he isn't in the list of our biggest concerns.
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I agree, he can flat throw the ball. If he could see the field, much better player he'd be. You're right, least of the problems.
 
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ButchAintOne said:
Jg ain't no bum man. Dude throws lasers. He's a sophmore and yall want him reading ds like Peyton, Caseys tenacity, and running like Dobbs. It will boost my quality of life if yall negas would just quit watching football
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At this level as a sophomore he should be able to do those things. Heck, there are freshman everywhere that do it. Do you watch any other games? I'm not trying to down the kid, I hope he proves me wrong, sincerely.
 
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99gator said:
I am a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. In 2015, Blake Bortles threw for 4,400 yards and 35 td's. And people would compare his numbers with other QB's in the league and point out how they compared favorably.

Except there was one problem. Those numbers were hollow because they were accomplished after the game had been decided.

Midway through the 3rd quarter, Tennessee had 7 vs. WVU and the game was already over. Against Florida, they had 6 points until close to the end of the 3rd quarter and the game was over. Halfway through the 3rd quarter, Tennessee had 0 vs. Georgia and the game was over.

Not to mention, the whole "body of work" argument.

JG is a tough kid. He's not very good. Sorry
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I just don't think its fair to say JG isn't very good. Lets be honest, we could have QB in the Nation and I don't think they'd do too much better with all the other issues we have going on. He's going to be a pretty good QB in time.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Jake Fromm- 16/22 185 zero TDs and zero INTs

Jarret Guarantano- 13/21 143 2 TDs and zero INTs

These stats even though Fromm has the much, much better team around him. Haters must hate stats.
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Poor argument because Fromm isn't special. Late round to UDFA pro prospect at best. Imo, you will see a similar situation at UGA with Fields as Bama with Tua.
 
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He stares down his receiver, holds on to the ball too long, can't read the read option, can't read a blitz of any kind, can't check down when receivers are covered. no touch on the ball, leads his running back into a brutal hit instead of keeping it, throws a laser on a 2 yard pass where the receiver can't catch it, threw the ball to someone in the stands on a 2 point conversion, runs like in mud when scrambling, hit a touchdown pass because the receiver was covered by a linebacker (lucky) couldn't move the ball past the other half of the field in the first half. But he's got good stats.
 
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UTK said:
I just don't think its fair to say JG isn't very good. Lets be honest, we could have QB in the Nation and I don't think they'd do too much better with all the other issues we have going on. He's going to be a pretty good QB in time.
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I understand that he's not getting much help, but he doesn't make anyone better. And he's certainly not a dual thread QB.
 
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joevol33 said:
I agree, he can flat throw the ball. If he could see the field, much better player he'd be. You're right, least of the problems.
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I'd take a QB with less arm strength, who could effectively run his progressions and actually read defenses, than the opposite if given the choice.

Helton/Pruitt think he's the best option, but given the last 5 saturdays, Helton's judgment is subject at best.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Jake Fromm- 16/22 185 zero TDs and zero INTs

Jarret Guarantano- 13/21 143 2 TDs and zero INTs

These stats even though Fromm has the much, much better team around him. Haters must hate stats.
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JG posted those stats with an offensive coordinator who did everything possible to hinder our passing game for 3 quarters today.
 
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JG is decent, but still has plenty of room to grow. Saying anything otherwise is just blindly hating. If you want to say that he isn't winning games as a reason he isn't good, he is just one player of an entire team. No one player is going to win or lose a game. He doesn't have a line, his running backs (really just Jeremy Banks) like to fumble, his receivers drop passes (really just Brandon Johnson). He would have beat South Carolina last year if not for a drop. He has plenty of stuff to work on, but he will get better. He is just a sophomore.
 
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It’s really impossible to give a fair evaluation of JG without a decent blocker in front of him and a play caller in Helton who doesn’t have an imaginative bone in his body. Fix those 2 things and I’m pretty sure JG would stack up fairly well to the rest of the QBs in the league
 
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rdk4121 said:
JG is decent, but still has plenty of room to grow. Saying anything otherwise is just blindly hating. If you want to say that he isn't winning games as a reason he isn't good, he is just one player of an entire team. No one player is going to win or lose a game. He doesn't have a line, his running backs (really just Jeremy Banks) like to fumble, his receivers drop passes (really just Brandon Johnson). He would have beat South Carolina last year if not for a drop. He has plenty of stuff to work on, but he will get better. He is just a sophomore.
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JG definitely has much to improve on. I will agree with that.
 
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Fromm is special right? Well so is JG and stats agree
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I would want to know how we are defining 'special' here. Fromm was 1 play away in OT of winning an NC, after winning the SEC, as a true freshman. JG...?

And I am not slamming JG. I like him. He is tough as nails and I think will continue to grow and improve as a QB. But special?
 
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What’s he doing on 3rd and 5, or 3rd and 7?
It’s either move the chains or go to the sideline!
Top QB’s all over the country know it’s pick out the open receiver and complete the pass or tuck and run if nobody is open, and do it, and could behind our bad OL just probably not as often.
3 first downs the first half! That ain’t gonna get it done.
He can throw the ball no doubt, we have seen it but can he do it at crunch time?
We all want the answer to be YES, but can’t really say at this time.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
I would want to know how we are defining 'special' here. Fromm was 1 play away in OT of winning an NC, after winning the SEC, as a true freshman. JG...?

And I am not slamming JG. I like him. He is tough as nails and I think will continue to grow and improve as a QB. But special?
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JG outplayed Fromm despite having much less around him. Fromm had the superior OL, WRs, TEs and RBs. People have said that Fromm is specail because last year. Well I argue that JG was special in the game given what he did.

That does not mean JG doesnt have a lot to improve on.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Jake Fromm- 16/22 185 zero TDs and zero INTs

Jarret Guarantano- 13/21 143 2 TDs and zero INTs

These stats even though Fromm has the much, much better team around him. Haters must hate stats.
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Sample size is a pretty important thing otherwise we can just say Greyson lambert is the best college qb of all time since he broke the completion record against an sec opponent. Having said that, UGA’s offense moved much better when fields was in. If Fromm continues to have off games I could see fields jumping him soon with LSU coming up.
 
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When you have four rush tds between two guys it really doesn’t matter what your QB is up to. UGA’s line mauled ours all day, Fromm had several passes fall incomplete where his receivers were behind the coverage or wide open. The run game picked up the pass game today. Sign of a good team.
 
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