Franklin turns Pirate on Commodore Recruiting Class

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James Franklin obviously wants to sink the ship instead of going down with it. As long as Vandy returns immediately to the Davy Jones' Locker of college football, then he gets to say no one else could ever captain the Commodore ship.

James Franklin 'pillaging' Vanderbilt recruiting class; SEC mindset coming to Penn State, and more | PennLive.com

Analyst: James Franklin trying to destroy Vanderbilt recruiting class | The Tennessean | tennessean.com

The Nashville Tennessean reports that the former Vanderbilt skipper is in full attack mode on his one-time Commodore recruiting class with analysts saying, "I’ve never seen it in this volume, quite this fast, of someone trying to pillage their own commitment class for their new job."
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“Basically, they’re left with three guys that I would consider really firm commitments.”
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This is too hilarious.

We could all see him leaving Vandy, but who knew that he would light all the powder kegs in the hold when he took off.

And people said this man isn't classy? Vandy will never recover once he's done with them. I almost feel a inkling of sympathy for Vandy fans.

The class has fallen to #52 in Rivals, but it is actually much worse than that since most of the current commits are talking to other teams.
 
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Lol..pillaging a Vandy recruiting class? That's like raiding a village to score some fish jerky..
 
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Well of course. I mean he put a lot of work into forming relationships with these recruits...why would he not try to take them with him? I think wvery coach does this when they leave in the off season.
 
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Well of course. I mean he put a lot of work into forming relationships with these recruits...why would he not try to take them with him? I think wvery coach does this when they leave in the off season.

Exactly. Whether or not you think it's ethical, this happens every time coaches change jobs.
 
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Exactly. Whether or not you think it's ethical, this happens every time coaches change jobs.

But it's more fun because it's happening to Vandy.

The same goes though that we would be giggling like teenage girls at a Justin Beiber concert if it happened to Alabama.
 
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Well of course. I mean he put a lot of work into forming relationships with these recruits...why would he not try to take them with him? I think wvery coach does this when they leave in the off season.

Read the Tennessean article I link in the OP if you get a chance. The experts who have covered recruiting for years think this is an usual situation.

Penn State is on scholarship restriction and cannot accommodate most of the players that are being convinced to decommit or look elsewhere.

Franklin has an unusual amount of sway over the players he recruited to Vandy and this is sabotage pure and simple. He is pulling the strings specifically to sink Vandy as much as to add a few of these guys at PSU.

In the end, Franklin is who we always thought he was.
 
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As long as he wasnt doing it on the University's dime (Kiffin), I dont have a problem with it at all.
 
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Read the Tennessean article I link in the OP if you get a chance. The experts who have covered recruiting for years think this is an usual situation.

Penn State is on scholarship restriction and cannot accommodate most of the players that are being convinced to decommit or look elsewhere.

Franklin has an unusual amount of sway over the players he recruited to Vandy and this is sabotage pure and simple. He is pulling the strings specifically to sink Vandy as much as to add a few of these guys at PSU.

In the end, Franklin is who we always thought he was.


I have to disagree with you, this is more about trying to get those recruits to PSU more than its about taking them away from Vandy.
 
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But it's more fun because it's happening to Vandy.

The same goes though that we would be giggling like teenage girls at a Justin Beiber concert if it happened to Alabama.

I have tended to never care about Vandy as they have not had a winning program record in my entire existence on this earth. My first UT game was a drubbing to the tune of 65-0. However after beating Dooley and somehow becoming "competitive for championships" (their words) they irk me somewhat. What is funny is that they had actually hired a guy who had turned the worst program in the nation around into a not so bad in the nation program. They had hope, vision, grandiose dreams of playing a game of importance in a dome, being ranked, and a self righteous sense of arrogance brought on by minor fleeting success.

That is what makes their current situation so delightful.
 
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I have tended to never care about Vandy as they have not had a winning program record in my entire existence on this earth. My first UT game was a drubbing to the tune of 65-0. However after beating Dooley and somehow becoming "competitive for championships" (their words) they irk me somewhat. What is funny is that they had actually hired a guy who had turned the worst program in the nation around into a not so bad in the nation program. They had hope, vision, grandiose dreams of playing a game of importance in a dome, being ranked, and a self righteous sense of arrogance brought on by minor fleeting success.

That is what makes their current situation so delightful.

Agree but adding the fact they were in a position to take advantage of several teams having down years to inflate their self worth. Had we and Missouri not beaten the snot out of Georgia and they had been healthy, that game would have turned out differently I would imagine. Same goes for Florida (although this doesn't exactly disturb me being Florida and all).

Vandy has to understand one thing. They are Vanderbilt and really haven't won an important game against a good opponent yet. When they do go up against stiff competition, they tend to get smoked. So their trash talking does little but earn the ire of teams that know they are traditionally better and will be taking it out on them when they get back up to speed (UT, Florida maybe, Georgia, the Mississippi's)

So yes, it's glorious to see their fans in a state of meltdown on the scale of Chernobyl and dreading the fear next year's schedule will bring.
 
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James Franklin obviously wants to sink the ship instead of going down with it. As long as Vandy returns immediately to the Davy Jones' Locker of college football, then he gets to say no one else could ever captain the Commodore ship.

James Franklin 'pillaging' Vanderbilt recruiting class; SEC mindset coming to Penn State, and more | PennLive.com

Analyst: James Franklin trying to destroy Vanderbilt recruiting class | The Tennessean | tennessean.com

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:lolabove:

This is too hilarious.

We could all see him leaving Vandy, but who knew that he would light all the powder kegs in the hold when he took off.

And people said this man isn't classy? Vandy will never recover once he's done with them. I almost feel a inkling of sympathy for Vandy fans.

The class has fallen to #52 in Rivals, but it is actually much worse than that since most of the current commits are talking to other teams.


Famous last words: "Scuttle the ship!"
 
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Well of course. I mean he put a lot of work into forming relationships with these recruits...why would he not try to take them with him? I think wvery coach does this when they leave in the off season.

Precisely. SIAP, but this firmly illustrates that the players were committed to the coach and not the institution. Vandy is just not a program where top talent wants to go.
 
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Penn State is paying him a lot of money to be their coach and this is his job. Get the best players. The gentleman's rule is for loser programs and coaches, just ask Urban Meyer.
 
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Penn State is paying him a lot of money to be their coach and this is his job. Get the best players. The gentleman's rule is for loser programs and coaches, just ask Urban Meyer.

I agree, BUT . . . . the fact that he's raiding Vandy commitments while recruiting at a place like Penn State pretty much tells you they hired the wrong guy.
 
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Penn State is paying him a lot of money to be their coach and this is his job. Get the best players. The gentleman's rule is for loser programs and coaches, just ask Urban Meyer.

Well, if he is supposed to get the best players, why isn't he calling players committed to Alabama, Ohio State or Tennessee?
 
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This time last year, Franklin said this about those who de-committed from Vandy:

he recently said that players that de-committed from his program were “not men of honor” and “not men of integrity.”

And then he was trying to clean up that mess and said this.

I would just rather a kid not commit to us than commit and not be completely sure what he’s going to do. When you lose a kid, it hurts your heart. You feel bad, like all college coaches do, because you feel like your institution is the best possible place for that kid.

Watching this guy and Urban Meyer slap fight from their podiums for the next few years is going to be really funny.
 
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