Foster dicussion (merged)

#52
#52
all you guys looking to blame foster for everything need to look at what happened. Hardestys fumble is on Hardesty. no arguement there. you catch it, you put it on the ground, its your fault.
 
#53
#53
UTvol1fn said:
He should have never been in on that play immediately after he recieved that personal foul. Fulmer should have sat him at least the entire first quarter. Our coaches show no discipline toward these athletes.
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he wasn't in on the fumble. he got taken out and Hardesty fumbled
 
#54
#54
CICEROMESSIAH said:
all you guys looking to blame foster for everything need to look at what happened. Hardestys fumble is on Hardesty. no arguement there. you catch it, you put it on the ground, its your fault.
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still, Crompton lofted it in the there setting Hardesty up. As soon as he turned his head around he got popped
 
#56
#56
CICEROMESSIAH said:
Hardesty is NOT our best running back. Arian Foster is by leaps and bounds.

pros
foster- great blocker, great receiver, quick, elusive, almost never gets tackled by the first guy.

hardesty- great burst, runs with power.

cons

foster- prone to big time mistake, lack of top end speed, ALWAYS gets caught from behind. dances too much.

hardesty- not a good blocker, not a good receiver, no vision at all, one dimensional back.

Hardesty is where he should be, the second option, i did the like having them both in the backfield out of the gun but we did nothing with it. a lot of potential in that formation.

Foster is the better back and can make more things happen and has proven to be fairly reliable. Are we ever gonna see a tennessee back have 25 plus carries in a game again. That is how you wear down a defense, the same guy running over and through people over and over again. then you bring in hardesty for a couple breathers and designed plays for him now and again. And if you have the lead by then, you see if creer can break it open.
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Your entire description of Foster fits a TE better than a RB. There's a reason they're calling RUNNING backs. Let's start the more explosive runner. I'm sure that there are better backs than Adrian Peterson at pass blocking or catching out of the backfield. Does that mean they should start before him?
 
#57
#57
VolfanMike said:
I would rather see Hardesty/Creer more than Foster. His attitude is garbage, hes to slow and he doesnt hit the hole near as hard as the other two. I wish he would hurry up and get his record so we could go on about our business.[/QUOTE]


Foster=Fulmer!
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#59
#59
I have a question. Why can Arian never run against Florida?

Answer - He's too slow to use his "shifty" hips against the Gators speed. He never hits the hole that is there. He always tries to dance outside. He can do it against some teams but the Gator's speed have never allowed for it. People who think he will be first round pick in the NFL need to lay of the meth.
 
#60
#60
hndog609 said:
As I point out in #43 I really wasn't trying to bash Hardesty in this. I made the point of it being Hardesty because if it had, in fact, been Foster that fumbled what do you think the reaction would have been?
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My reaction would still have been that the ball should not have been thrown. I understand that you aren't bashing anyone. You are correct that people would have taken the opportunity to further bash Foster and they would have been incorrect. The blame for the entire offensive struggles should be laid at the feet of Crompton and the coaching staff that still continues to play him and put him in situations to have to make plays.
 
#61
#61
CICEROMESSIAH said:
all you guys looking to blame foster for everything need to look at what happened. Hardestys fumble is on Hardesty. no arguement there. you catch it, you put it on the ground, its your fault.
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Crompton should have thrown the ball away or tucked and run it himself. That fumble was NOT Hardesty's fault. He never had a chance.
 
#62
#62
gainesvol82 said:
My reaction would still have been that the ball should not have been thrown. I understand that you aren't bashing anyone. You are correct that people would have taken the opportunity to further bash Foster and they would have been incorrect. The blame for the entire offensive struggles should be laid at the feet of Crompton and the coaching staff that still continues to play him and put him in situations to have to make plays.
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If Foster hadn't set us back 15 yards we would not have run that play in the first place. It went from 2nd/3rd and inches (think the penalty was a dead ball but can't remember) to 2nd/3rd and 15. Then Crompton lobs that duck over to Hardesty, game over. I can hear Crompton right now "It wasn't my fault coach. I threw the ball right to him."
 
#63
#63
Guys, I'm just as embarrassed about that horrible performance as you guys are, but the reality is that it was just not that one play from Foster that caused us the game. We had our chances and we ended up with 3 turnovers inside the Orange Zone and blew it. I blame lack of preparation and execution. Which all leads back to Coaching. Spurrier would not accept this crap. He would make changes to prove a point! While proving a point, if someone else performs well to take the position, then the position is taken.
 
#64
#64
Vol4Real said:
Guys, I'm just as embarrassed about that horrible performance as you guys are, but the reality is that it was just not that one play from Foster that caused us the game. We had our chances and we ended up with 3 turnovers inside the Orange Zone and blew it. I blame lack of preparation and execution. Which all leads back to Coaching. Spurrier would not accept this crap. He would make changes to prove a point! While proving a point, if someone else performs well to take the position, then the position is taken.
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Spurrier isn't exactly the brightest light to be pointing at as an example right now.
 
#65
#65
Only a few guys played football the other day for UT, first and foremost Eric Berry. Foster,Crompton and all the rest didn't show up for some reason. Can't just blame it on him but the unsportsmanlike penalty was just poor character IMO.
 
#67
#67
Vol4Real said:
My point is Spurrier would be quick to pull an inaffective quarterback or a RB who is fumble prone.
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Fair enough. My point was that it looks better to point out a style of coaching that is having success. Spurrier (somewhat inexplicably to me) is almost getting a pass for some very poor play of late by his team. Even the "lesser talent" argument doesn't hold up when you've dropped two in a row to Vandy and look worse against Wofford than we did against UAB.
 
#70
#70
dyer_maker said:
If Foster hadn't set us back 15 yards we would not have run that play in the first place. It went from 2nd/3rd and inches (think the penalty was a dead ball but can't remember) to 2nd/3rd and 15. Then Crompton lobs that duck over to Hardesty, game over. I can hear Crompton right now "It wasn't my fault coach. I threw the ball right to him."
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I thought we weren't allowed to play the "if" game?
 
#71
#71
utfantilidie said:
Only a few guys played football the other day for UT, first and foremost Eric Berry. Foster,Crompton and all the rest didn't show up for some reason. Can't just blame it on him but the unsportsmanlike penalty was just poor character IMO.
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What would have been Foster's highlights on the day were negated by holding calls away from the ball.
 
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