Ford to stop making all passenger cars except the Mustang

[OuterBanksVol]

SIAP. While our domestic car industry is getting it's lunch eaten by Japan, Korea and Germany, Trump is focused like a laser on... coal. Cars remain an industry of the future. Coal not so much. To state the obvious, it would be nice if we had a progressive-thinking President who actually understood this and its economic ramifications.

Ford to stop making all passenger cars except the Mustang

 

[n_huffhines]

SIAP. While our domestic car industry is getting it's lunch eaten by Japan, Korea and Germany, Trump is focused like a laser on... coal. Cars remain an industry of the future. Coal not so much. To state the obvious, it would be nice if we had a progressive-thinking President who actually understood this and its economic ramifications.

Ford to stop making all passenger cars except the Mustang

What should he do about the auto industry?

 

[Weezer]

What should he do about the auto industry?

This. I understand you enjoy criticizing Trump and I'm okay with that, but let's talk solutions for once instead of the back and forth bickering.

 

[MG1968]

It's called, "capitalism". You give the consumer what they want, in Ford's case (and the auto industry as a whole) that's SUVs, crossovers, and pickup trucks.

Trump should keep his nose out of it.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Lol. Another desperate streeeeeeetch to blame something on Trump or allow the OP to spew their anti Trump vitriol.

What in the wide wide world of sports does a company adjusting its product line to match demand and what is profitable have anything to do with Trump?

You probably should brush up on vehicle trends in the US before typing.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

SIAP. While our domestic car industry is getting it's lunch eaten by Japan, Korea and Germany, Trump is focused like a laser on... coal. Cars remain an industry of the future. Coal not so much. To state the obvious, it would be nice if we had a progressive-thinking President who actually understood this and its economic ramifications.

Ford to stop making all passenger cars except the Mustang

This has nothing to do with production. America’s taste for trucks and SUV’s has grown exponentially. Ford can’t make enough Escapes. These plants won’t be shut down, they will be converted to make better selling models. Chevy is planning to do the same. Toyota is having to ship trucks and SUV’s to the US to keep up with demand.

It was a good try though. You almost had him.

 

[Grand Vol]

What should he do about the auto industry?

Nothing. But won't stop the screeching.

I do think this is a bad move for Ford unless prices drop on the SUV and crossover market. I see plenty of small sedans on the road like the Focus, Chevy Sonic and the various imports.

 

[TheDeeble]

What will the response be next time oil has a prolonged spike in price? I seem to remember Ford offering a "buy an Expedition and get a free Fiesta" deal a few years back.

When the price of 87 goes back to $3.20 plus a gallon for even the low cost of living markets people will be looking for fuel efficient cars again.

 

[theFallGuy]

SIAP. While our domestic car industry is getting it's lunch eaten by Japan, Korea and Germany, Trump is focused like a laser on... coal. Cars remain an industry of the future. Coal not so much. To state the obvious, it would be nice if we had a progressive-thinking President who actually understood this and its economic ramifications.

Ford to stop making all passenger cars except the Mustang

we must save the Ford Focus from extinction!

 

[n_huffhines]

Nothing. But won't stop the screeching.

I do think this is a bad move for Ford unless prices drop on the SUV and crossover market. I see plenty of small sedans on the road like the Focus, Chevy Sonic and the various imports.

Oh, he should definitely do some things. I'm just curious what OBX thinks.

He could start by lifting tariffs on input goods.

 

[roosterjbh]

GM is doing pretty well. They make their money on trucks and SUVs. If people aren’t buying sedans then don’t make them.

 

[NorthDallas40]

What will the response be next time oil has a prolonged spike in price? I seem to remember Ford offering a "buy an Expedition and get a free Fiesta" deal a few years back.

When the price of 87 goes back to $3.20 plus a gallon for even the low cost of living markets people will be looking for fuel efficient cars again.

My truck has a 6.2L engine in it. Why? Because they didn’t offer a 7.2L or 8.2L. Americans love their large displacement V8 engines.

Plus with modern engine control a 500HP V8 can easily hit 25mpg on the highway.

The fuel cost isn’t anywhere the driver it was even 15 years ago.

 

[n_huffhines]

There is some sort of crony capitalist incentive to make fuel efficient vehicles, so all these manufacturers have cars in their fleet that just exist for the perks of compliance. Does this all mean that Ford is walking away from those perks, or are they going to come up with more fuel efficient SUV's, etc.?

 

[Vol737]

GM is doing pretty well. They make their money on trucks and SUVs. If people aren’t buying sedans then don’t make them.

Where's the Chevy Volt in all of this? Haven't even heard anything lately. It's not for me until I get to be elderly and not driving much then.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

It's called, "capitalism". You give the consumer what they want, in Ford's case (and the auto industry as a whole) that's SUVs, crossovers, and pickup trucks.

Trump should keep his nose out of it.

By your logic, Trump should keep his nose out of coal, and just let "capitalism" wave its invisible hand leading to its inexorable death. Instead, Energy Secretary Perry is trying to get utilities and their ratepayers to provide financial assistance to coal and nuclear plants. Should we similarly subsidize our auto industry? If no, why yes for coal, but no for cars?

To me the answer is probably R&D and more technologically advanced factories. Ford's cars simply can't compete because they are inferior to similar imports in price/quality. I would favor government loans to allow firms like Ford to invest in cutting edge tech development and production. If this is already happening, why is it failing? Is our nation incapable of competing with cars? Nobody wants to buy a Ford Forkass because, well, they suck.

 

[n_huffhines]

By your logic, Trump should keep his nose out of coal, and just let "capitalism" wave its invisible hand leading to its inexorable death. Instead, Energy Secretary Perry is trying to get utilities and their ratepayers to provide financial assistance to coal and nuclear plants. Should we similarly subsidize our auto industry? If no, why yes for coal, but no for cars?

Yes, MG believes that. LOL

 

[MG1968]

By your logic, Trump should keep his nose out of coal, and just let "capitalism" wave its invisible hand leading to its inexorable death. Instead, Energy Secretary Perry is trying to get utilities and their ratepayers to provide financial assistance to coal and nuclear plants. Should we similarly subsidize our auto industry? If no, why yes for coal, but no for cars?

I'm against subsidies of any kind, for any industry, at any time.

 

[Grand Vol]

By your logic, Trump should keep his nose out of coal, and just let "capitalism" wave its invisible hand leading to its inexorable death. Instead, Energy Secretary Perry is trying to get utilities and their ratepayers to provide financial assistance to coal and nuclear plants. Should we similarly subsidize our auto industry? If no, why yes for coal, but no for cars?

Trump also helped relax the regulations surrounding the coal industry. It wasn't a matter of the "capitalism" moving on from coal, it was government regulations killing it as was promised by the previous Administration.

I'm of the mind the government needs to stop subsidizing ALL the energy sector, whether it be coal, NG, solar, etc. Let the market decide what survives.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Trump also helped relax the regulations surrounding the coal industry. It wasn't a matter of the "capitalism" moving on from coal, it was government regulations killing it as was promised by the previous Administration.

I'm of the mind the government needs to stop subsidizing ALL the energy sector, whether it be coal, NG, solar, etc. Let the market decide what survives.

This. Trump rolled back ridiculous restrictions. If the product is viable it will survive. If it isn’t it won’t. The gov needs to stop interfering. Welcome to the free market.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

There is some sort of crony capitalist incentive to make fuel efficient vehicles, so all these manufacturers have cars in their fleet that just exist for the perks of compliance. Does this all mean that Ford is walking away from those perks, or are they going to come up with more fuel efficient SUV's, etc.?

They have to keep an average MPG across their products of some mandated value. The crossovers achieve almost the same MPG as cars. I think more hybrid options in the truck and SUV lines will also help keep that number up.

 

[NorthDallas40]

They have to keep an average MPG across their products of some mandated value. The crossovers achieve almost the same MPG as cars. I think more hybrid options in the truck and SUV lines will also help keep that number up.

Well I need something to offset my 12/16mpg on my big ass truck. This is also why Ford is shoving that damn turbo V6 Eco Boost down every truck owners throat. A truck should have a iron block, 8 cylinders, one camshaft, and no more than 24 valves with 16 being the preferred number.

Oh yeah almost forgot. Get off my lawn!!😬

 

[red butler]

SIAP. While our domestic car industry is getting it's lunch eaten by Japan, Korea and Germany, Trump is focused like a laser on... coal. Cars remain an industry of the future. Coal not so much. To state the obvious, it would be nice if we had a progressive-thinking President who actually understood this and its economic ramifications.

Ford to stop making all passenger cars except the Mustang

What do coal and auto manufacturing policies have to do with each other? These issues don't even involve the same cabinet. By your logic Trump shouldn't be focused on Korea. After all, why work toward world peace when his time is better spent interfering with private business decisions.

 

[LouderVol]

2016 U.S. auto sales set a new record high, led by SUVs

yeah, big rise in the ownership rate of SUVs/trucks.

Toyota's U.S. sales chief, Bill Fay, said consumers' shift from cars to SUVs is one of the most dramatic the industry has ever seen. Three years ago, trucks and SUVs represented 50% of the U.S. market. They closed 2016 at 63% of total sales, and analysts don't see that changing anytime soon. Boomers and millennials both like the space and the higher ride that SUVs offer, and improvements in fuel economy make them competitive with cars. The Honda CR-V was the bestselling SUV in the U.S. last year, with sales up 3% to 357,335.

the next big shift will be when driverless vehicles become mainstream.

 

[midnight orange]

What do coal and auto manufacturing policies have to do with each other? These issues don't even involve the same cabinet. By your logic Trump shouldn't be focused on Korea. After all, why work toward world peace when his time is better spent interfering with private business decisions.

There is a relationship between coal and electric car manufacturing.

 

[T-TownVol]

SIAP. While our domestic car industry is getting it's lunch eaten by Japan, Korea and Germany, Trump is focused like a laser on... coal. Cars remain an industry of the future. Coal not so much. To state the obvious, it would be nice if we had a progressive-thinking President who actually understood this and its economic ramifications.

Ford to stop making all passenger cars except the Mustang

You are a sad and pathetic little man.....