For you pantywads worrying about NIL

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I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
 
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I disagree. Some teams have more money than others. Just like Walter Nolen going to A & M. I’m pretty sure Georgia didn’t want Jamal Lewis, they chose Jasper Sanks, which was a bust. College Football is now the NFL. I don’t think it’s a good thing
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Now, this...THIS is how you build agreement with your viewpoint! Marvelously done.

1. Right up front, call anyone who doesn't agree with you a "pantywad." Before they even open the thread. Gotta be sure there is no doubt how you feel about them.

2. Tell everyone who clicks on the thread and starts reading your post, maybe even folks who might've agreed with you, that they have a car key in their ear (whatever that means).

3. Present your argument.

4. Conclude by recommending that readers (who are on a forum created to discuss issues surrounding Tennessee football) stop discussing NIL, that they just "drop it."

Brilliant, sir. Simply brilliant. You're gonna win them all over, I predict.
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Why would one have car keys in their ears?
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Now, this...THIS is how you build agreement with your viewpoint! Marvelously done.

1. Right up front, call anyone who doesn't agree with you a "pantywad." Before they even open the thread. Gotta be sure there is no doubt how you feel about them.

2. Tell everyone who clicks on the thread and starts reading your post, maybe even folks who might've agreed with you, that they have a car key in their ear (whatever that means).

3. Present your argument.

4. Conclude by recommending that readers (who are on a forum created to discuss issues surrounding Tennessee football) stop discussing NIL, that they just "drop it."

Brilliant, sir. Simply brilliant. You're gonna win them all over, I predict.
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Straight out of how to win friends and influence people.
 
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The NFL is laughing all the way to the bank. They are still getting all of their players for free from their college/farm league and not having to spend a dime. Those billionaire SOB's that own the NFL are having meetings and laughing at college/boosters with NIL. We should get the money out of college football make the NFL start a "G-League" where players that do not want a college education can go right out of high school and earn money to play until they are good enough to make an NFL roster. Let the "Student Athlete" be a kid that wants to play football but also want to earn a degree and go on with life outside the NFL.

NONE of this will ever happen but I just wanted to rant for a few keystrokes.
 
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When a College QB makes more than a Starting NFL QB Rookie or 2 year Player QB then we have a Problem and NIL is a Problem

When you cannot regulate Salary Caps for Colleges, then we have a problem

When you don't have a Balance of Power like a Draft based on Level and then we have a problem

NIL has taken the Earning it to Get the Payday. Not sure I suspect Class attendance will Drop.

Handlers/Agents add more fuel to the fire. Expect the bribing of Recruiting Agencies to elevate the Star Status of a HS Athlete for a bigger Payday.

Basically, NIL is a signing bonus based on Recruiting Services that cannot possibly evaluate all the Athletes.

If you cannot buy a team in the NFL you should not be able to Buy a team in the College Ranks.

See Texas A&M. $30 Million Spent.

I am all for paying College Athletes, Teams need Caps and every Player on the Team should benefit. The Problem is that the NCAA has no ability, capability, or authority to control this.

The Transfer Portal will only contribute to this even More. Player A can opt to go into it and teams can also solicit a player through an agent from another team with an enticing raise.

I am all for NIL but it came before any ground rules were established and the NCAA sat on their a$$ and did nothing but watch the door hit them in the face....

It's bad for college football without any adult supervision and will get worse.
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Too soon to determine whether it's better or not.

You make a lot of good points but it already HAS changed stuff. With money being public now, BIDs will be HIGHER. That changes everything.

You'll have kids not sitting out a year (Chase, Clarret).
 
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I will side with the majority opinion here. OP is a master at running off anyone that might have considered his opinion. Just come on the VN and lay a big turd. Works every time.
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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You make some good points but I doubt we'll be able to outbid at least 4 SEC schools for top talent.... and that's just the SEC. On the national scene there are several more that can and will pay more.
If the system was structured in a way to limit the amount of money involved like the NFL (salary caps) and a system to promote more evenly matched teams in terms of player talent (draft choices in reverse order of won/loss record) I might see it as a move forward but as it stands I can't agree.
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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I hate to be the one to break it to ya but the entire landscape of college football has changed. No school or booster was giving kids $SEVEN$ figure deals. Caleb Williams has been promised $1,000,000.00 if he transfers to Easter Michigan. Do you think Jackson State gets the #1 player in the country without NIL deals. It’s being reoriented that Texas A&M “boosters”has spent between $30-$40 million this recruiting cycle and it shows with the amount of 5* they have pulled in all of sudden. I agree players need to be paid something but to not regulate it and put rules on is bad for college football. This is free agency of college football and if the NFL and NBA has a salary cap or rules surrounding free agency then why can’t college football have similar rules that regulate and monitor it? You can have your OPINION all you want because it’s yours, but don’t mean it’s right. But for you to sit here and say it hasn’t changed college football is flat out wrong and makes me wonder if you even know anything about the NIL rules. The top media pundits and top college coaches have all said it’s changed college football for better or worse but I guess you know more than Nick Saban or Bill Obrien which both coaches have compared to NFL free agency. And both coaches would know very well about it as Bill Obrien was a GM and head coach in the NFL. I’ll take his word over your about it changing college football.
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Man, what a high-minded load of crapola.

Like it or not, money drives everything in our friggin planet. The new college football landscape is no different.

Q: What has historically BEEN the #1 determinant of which school the MOST TALENTED kids go to play college football?
A: The school (football program) that most successfully sells a vision and path that gets those kids into the NFL and big cash money.

Q: What will NOW BE the #1 determinant of which school the MOST TALENTED kids go to play college football?
A: The school that primarily offers the most cash NOW with a secondary future path to the NFL.

And why not? 99% of kids playing ball in college will NEVER see an NFL field in their lifetimes. Plus, if you're a HS Senior and some college boosters group offers you $100,000.00 to simply come to their illustrious university and provide your NIL in a chips commercial -- DONE. SOLD. OVER. You're gonna sign that bottom line fast.

Unless...

Another illustrious university comes knocking on your door before you've signed the bottom line, and this boosters group offers you $250,000.00 to simply come to their illustrious university and provide your NIL in a taco commercial. SWEET. Change of plans. You're gonna sign that bottom line fast.

Oh, but wait, there's more...

Now you get some group of dudes wearing cowboy hats from Texas banging on your door. Seems these "Friends of the Horn" got a freakin suitcase of money for you. $1,000,000.00 to simply come to their illustrious university and provide your NIL in a cowboy boots commercial.

Game. Set. Match.

At the end of the day, the biggest universities with the largest alumni endowment funds and fan bases will be able to BUY all of the best players to come play for them.

It's simple economics.

Tennessee is awesome in so many ways, but that... that situation is one where we are gonna lose. Again and again.

Worse yet, it's not really even Tennessee or Alabama or Texas A&M anymore. It's really just pro football junior.

Hate to see it happen, but it already is.
 
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