For those saying Fire Debord

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CountVolcula

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Debord is not the entire problem.

Debord was hired by Butch Jones because Debord was familiar with the type of Offense Jones ran. It was familiar to what Jones ran as an offensive coordinator at Central Michigan under Debord

Jones has tweaked it some, but its basically the same. The offense WILL NOT change with a new OC. Its what Bajakian called and its what Debord has called. You only have to work with the calls that are in the playbook. If the plays are flawed and the blocking schemes that go with them, the play will fail

Jones will not give up on his offense. He is too proud. He has called it infallible. He has said so many times to fans and reporters that "we dont understand it". By him hiring an OC to run their own offense means we were right and his system failed. WILL NOT HAPPEN

Jones will have to go before a new offensive style shows up in Knoxville.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Debord is not the entire problem.

Debord was hired by Butch Jones because Debord was familiar with the type of Offense Jones ran. It was familiar to what Jones ran as an offensive coordinator at Central Michigan under Debord

Jones has tweaked it some, but its basically the same. The offense WILL NOT change with a new OC. Its what Bajakian called and its what Debord has called. You only have to work with the calls that are in the playbook. If the plays are flawed and the blocking schemes that go with them, the play will fail

Jones will not give up on his offense. He is too proud. He has called in infallible. He has said so many times to fans and reporters that "we dont understand it". By him hiring an OC to run their own offense means we were right and his system failed. WILL NOT HAPPEN

Jones will have to go before a new offensive style shows up in Knoxville.
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I was about to post the same thing. This is exactly the problem. Butch needs to give up his love for his offense and let an established OC handle it and change it if need be.
 
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Yea its working out great.

Maybe it'll succeed in the AAC again after he's fired from Tennessee.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Debord is not the entire problem.

Debord was hired by Butch Jones because Debord was familiar with the type of Offense Jones ran. It was familiar to what Jones ran as an offensive coordinator at Central Michigan under Debord

Jones has tweaked it some, but its basically the same. The offense WILL NOT change with a new OC. Its what Bajakian called and its what Debord has called. You only have to work with the calls that are in the playbook. If the plays are flawed and the blocking schemes that go with them, the play will fail

Jones will not give up on his offense. He is too proud. He has called in infallible. He has said so many times to fans and reporters that "we dont understand it". By him hiring an OC to run their own offense means we were right and his system failed. WILL NOT HAPPEN

Jones will have to go before a new offensive style shows up in Knoxville.
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Yep.

There is a reason Bajakian left to take a QB coaching position at Tampa Bay.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Debord is not the entire problem.

Debord was hired by Butch Jones because Debord was familiar with the type of Offense Jones ran. It was familiar to what Jones ran as an offensive coordinator at Central Michigan under Debord

Jones has tweaked it some, but its basically the same. The offense WILL NOT change with a new OC. Its what Bajakian called and its what Debord has called. You only have to work with the calls that are in the playbook. If the plays are flawed and the blocking schemes that go with them, the play will fail

Jones will not give up on his offense. He is too proud. He has called in infallible. He has said so many times to fans and reporters that "we dont understand it". By him hiring an OC to run their own offense means we were right and his system failed. WILL NOT HAPPEN

Jones will have to go before a new offensive style shows up in Knoxville.
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I agree. I guess my only hope would be that Butch sees the error of his ways and becomes the CEO of the program and then hires a OC that he gives full control. Wishful thinking, I know.
 
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We are stuck with Butch and this terrible scheme through 2018. We can't afford to even think about a new coach at the moment; Dave Hart handing out that extension sealed the deal, and the best we can hope for is that we can hold on to recruits over the next two years.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If history is any kind of indication, we wont hire anyone with big time experience on their resume.
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Shoop says hi.

Jones has shown that he will make moves in order to try to better the team. I think he knows that Debord has to go or its on him. Mahoney needs to go too.
 
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I don't think the system is completely trash. We've seen the thing work.

The problem is, no one EVER executes. That'sbecause of the OC and position coaches. Bajakian was handicapped and DeBord is inconsistent. The team is sloppy. He is right, when they execute they are hard to stop but Butch has got to let it go and letsomeone else take over.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Debord is not the entire problem.

Debord was hired by Butch Jones because Debord was familiar with the type of Offense Jones ran. It was familiar to what Jones ran as an offensive coordinator at Central Michigan under Debord

Jones has tweaked it some, but its basically the same. The offense WILL NOT change with a new OC. Its what Bajakian called and its what Debord has called. You only have to work with the calls that are in the playbook. If the plays are flawed and the blocking schemes that go with them, the play will fail

Jones will not give up on his offense. He is too proud. He has called in infallible. He has said so many times to fans and reporters that "we dont understand it". By him hiring an OC to run their own offense means we were right and his system failed. WILL NOT HAPPEN

Jones will have to go before a new offensive style shows up in Knoxville.
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Thank you for truth....didn't even have to wikileak it lol.

Its lyle jones ball period
 
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BeardedVol said:
We are stuck with Butch and this terrible scheme through 2018. We can't afford to even think about a new coach at the moment; Dave Hart handing out that extension sealed the deal, and the best we can hope for is that we can hold on to recruits over the next two years.
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Sad and depressing but true.
 
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JohnMcA60 said:
I was about to post the same thing. This is exactly the problem. Butch needs to give up his love for his offense and let an established OC handle it and change it if need be.
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I agree but I think the chance that he is willing to give up this offense is zero. He's too stubborn.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Debord is not the entire problem.

Debord was hired by Butch Jones because Debord was familiar with the type of Offense Jones ran. It was familiar to what Jones ran as an offensive coordinator at Central Michigan under Debord

Jones has tweaked it some, but its basically the same. The offense WILL NOT change with a new OC. Its what Bajakian called and its what Debord has called. You only have to work with the calls that are in the playbook. If the plays are flawed and the blocking schemes that go with them, the play will fail

Jones will not give up on his offense. He is too proud. He has called in infallible. He has said so many times to fans and reporters that "we dont understand it". By him hiring an OC to run their own offense means we were right and his system failed. WILL NOT HAPPEN

Jones will have to go before a new offensive style shows up in Knoxville.
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His insistence on running it early on was all we needed to see. The personnel wasn't there at all, and yet that was what they run. They have a big, bruising back and they run it still. It's terrible. It always has been. It will always be. It looked like dumb luck when the offense succeeded when he was at Cincinnati. It has looked like dumb luck this season.
 
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Vol4Lyfe said:
Shoop says hi.

Jones has shown that he will make moves in order to try to better the team. I think he knows that Debord has to go or its on him. Mahoney needs to go too.
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Its easy to do that. Jones isnt a D guy. The offense is his own child. Hes not going to throw out his own baby and adopt a new one
 
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My question is why would a recruit want to come to TN? What do they have to offer to make a person want to come and languish in mediocrity? There hasn't been noticeable development on either side of the ball in 4-years.The bright spots they have are not due to coaching, they are due to individual ability.

If you load your roster with 3-Star middle of the road talent and don't develop it, you get what we have.
 
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ScottyG210 said:
My question is why would a recruit want to come to TN? What do they have to offer to make a person want to come and languish in mediocrity? There hasn't been noticeable development on either side of the ball in 4-years.The bright spots they have are not due to coaching, they are due to individual ability.

If you load your roster with 3-Star middle of the road talent and don't develop it, you get what we have.
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Its exactly why WR talent is straying away from us. Our "throw game" is terrible
 
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I don't believe the system is bad. The execution is bad. When the players execute it works. I do blame coaching for lack of execution.
 
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I don't think it's the scheme anymore. It's the pieces in it. Dobbs is the most overrated QB in the SEC. Love the guy and everything he does off the field, but put Deshaun Watson or Deondre Francois in this system with a decent OL and they'd double his stats. Jalen Hurd does not fit in this scheme and it's so obvious.

The problem is that this all boils down to coaching. Build your offense around what you have, not build your offense around what you want.
 
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Let's be honest though - Debord has definitely stunk it up; however, if Dobbs doesn't play like complete trash tonight we win this game. He was throwing the ball in the dirt all night, behind receivers not to mention the interceptions. It is his worst game of his career by far.

I blame DBH, when he came out and said he was done with Dobbs', he started playing great. Then DB4 adopted him again and he's played like crap ever since.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Debord is not the entire problem.

Debord was hired by Butch Jones because Debord was familiar with the type of Offense Jones ran. It was familiar to what Jones ran as an offensive coordinator at Central Michigan under Debord

Jones has tweaked it some, but its basically the same. The offense WILL NOT change with a new OC. Its what Bajakian called and its what Debord has called. You only have to work with the calls that are in the playbook. If the plays are flawed and the blocking schemes that go with them, the play will fail

Jones will not give up on his offense. He is too proud. He has called it infallible. He has said so many times to fans and reporters that "we dont understand it". By him hiring an OC to run their own offense means we were right and his system failed. WILL NOT HAPPEN

Jones will have to go before a new offensive style shows up in Knoxville.
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I disagree. We pay big money to big time coaches. Butch can hire a good OC and worry about 'cruitin and special teams. I think that he knows he is gone if the O isn't successful.
 
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I am completely content in life: being a middle class sort of guy. I wouldn't dream of riches to make me happy. Having said that; I would love to have the voice of a booster. I would love the opportunity to be in CBJ's face saying this **** is not getting it done! You better get your a** in gear or "we" will replace you (and this sorry offensive scheme) with another coach who will deliver results.

Allowing 24 points from this USCe team is unacceptable.
Putting up no more than 21 points, on this sorry USCe team, is unacceptable.

This is one point in life that I wish I were wealthy enough to be a UT booster.
 
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