For all of you who keep sticking up for Dooley

[SuperDave]

Jesus Christ couldn't win with this roster.

 

[SLOBBER_KNOCKER_U]

He seems to be one heck of a first half coach! That's about it so far.

It's called a lack of depth. You know when you don't have enough players to backup starters and 2nd teams??? Therefore our thin depth chart gets exhausted by the 3rd quarter. I don't expect a lot of people on here to understand this.

 

[orange_peel]

The only person who needs to be fired is Mike Hamilton. He made an excellent hire at the time in Pearl,now not so much,. If I remember correctly though Ernie, Grunfeld recommended him so Hamilton did not need to do much but offer the job to Pearl.He fired the best baseball coach UT has ever had and replaced him with his man Raleigh and he can not even make the SEC tournament. He handled the firing of Coach Fulmer horribly even going to the lengths of saying Fulmer had lost control of the team,which was a lie! He made Pat Summit schedule more home games so a series with La Tech was canceled because Summit could not do a home and home with them anymore.Everything that Hamilton has touched concerning the athletic programs at UT has turned to crap. He has sacrificed our competitiveness and class as a university and turned us into a joke . I hope that the new president can see this and makes the firing of Hamilton his first priority. :machgun:

 

[Volzilla]

You fire Dooley you can count on Saban snapping him up in a heart beat and plus add another two years to rebuilding

 

[tvolsfan]

You fire Dooley you can count on Saban snapping him up in a heart beat and plus add another two years to rebuilding

He definitely shouldn't be fired right now. You can't do that to a guy in one season unless something crazy happens like Tennessee finishes 2-10 with all blowout losses. That being said, I'm not sure why everyone is so sure that getting a new coach will add years to the process of climbing back to the top. The only way that happens is if we make a bad hire.

 

[Ashevolle]

I dunno maybe I'm just so disapointed... I just keep watching throughout the season and the more I watch our team and coaches the more I try to look for a reason to root for our coach but i can never find one...

it looks like the only reason you will be happy with this coaching staff is if they win now.....therefore, I wouldn't hold your breath. No one was going to win at UT this year. It is therefore kind of dumb to start throwing him under the bus already.

 

[volstuff37641]

I can completely understand backing Dooley because he's our coach. But what makes anyone think that he's qualified for this job?

He was 17-20 at Louisiana Tech.

I understand that we have no depth, but there's no excuse for Bama to score in four plays in the beginning of the second half after the players have had a break.

He failed to motivate the team after the devastating LSU lose.

So far recruiting is crap and the only reason that we had a top ten recruiting class this past year was because half of the recruits were already enrolled

The whole substitution isn't the young player's fault the coaches need to be on top of it. There are 3-5 coaches on each side of the ball being paid well. THEY NEED TO BE ON TOP OF IT.

DOOLEY WASN'T EVEN OUR FIRST CHOICE!!!


I understand backing our coach and I understand that he was the only one who accepted the challenge. And before you all bash me for this but with everything with the depth problems, the lack of talent, and young players, answer me this... WHAT HAS DEREK DOOLEY DONE TO SHOW YOU THAT HE CAN BRING US BACK TO SUCCESS?

PS. EVEN THOUGH I'M BASHING DOOLEY I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR TROUBLES ARE HIS FAULT. I did expect a .500 season or less. I'm just trying to see the positives of this guy and understand why HE'S THE RIGHT GUY

your proof,dare i say it,"link"that Dooley was not our first choice.:birgits_giggle:

 

[volstuff37641]

Well answer the question? What makes you think Dooley's the right guy?

what makes you think he isn't.are you quilifed to make that call.

 

[OWB]

what makes you think he isn't.are you quilifed to make that call.

I will attempt to answer that and it will probably ruffle some feathers, but it's just my opinion, which isn't really worth all that much. So keep that in mind.

When we hired Kiffin, we weren't the best team with the best players. However, you could tell things were going the right way. The team was disciplined, the players played hard. They were getting the right personnel on the field, they were getting recruits etc.. They were getting the little things right and when you're a team that doesn't have all that much, those little things count for A LOT. Those little things keep you in ball games.

Now, look at Dooley and company. None of the things listed above are happening. Not only are they not happening, the same stupid mistakes, such as not getting 11 players on the field, keep happening.

When you're rebuilding, the building process starts with a foundation. Kiffin and company were building a solid foundation. Dooley and company aren't thus far. It's that simple.

It doesn't take a genius to realize that UT was forced to make a knee jerk decision after Kiffin left. Had they been able to go about finding a coach the right way, Dooley would have been at the bottom of the list, if he was on it at all.

 

[volwarrior33]

I will attempt to answer that and it will probably ruffle some feathers, but it's just my opinion, which isn't really worth all that much. So keep that in mind.

When we hired Kiffin, we weren't the best team with the best players. However, you could tell things were going the right way. The team was disciplined, the players played hard. They were getting the right personnel on the field, they were getting recruits etc.. They were getting the little things right and when you're a team that doesn't have all that much, those little things count for A LOT. Those little things keep you in ball games.

Now, look at Dooley and company. None of the things listed above are happening. Not only are they not happening, the same stupid mistakes, such as not getting 11 players on the field, keep happening.

When you're rebuilding, the building process starts with a foundation. Kiffin and company were building a solid foundation. Dooley and company aren't thus far. It's that simple.

It doesn't take a genius to realize that UT was forced to make a knee jerk decision after Kiffin left. Had they been able to go about finding a coach the right way, Dooley would have been at the bottom of the list, if he was on it at all.

All of this.

 

[volroadwarrior]

Dooley bashing is all emotional whining. Nobody coming into this situation would have done any better. Grow up and stop emoting like a bunch of old women.

 

[OWB]

Dooley bashing is all emotional whining. Nobody coming into this situation would have done any better. Grow up and stop emoting like a bunch of old women.

So we're all "old women", but need to grow up? Solid

There's a difference between Dooley bashing and simply stating that he's probably not the right guy for the job.

 

[volstuff37641]

You all are judging him in his first year, based on a team that:
1. Is 13 scholarship players short.
2. Is playing 16 or 17 freshmen regularly.
3. Started a O-Line that is one of the youngest in the nation with a center that probably wouldn't ever see playing time at a school this size except on special teams.
4. Lost it's best receiver for 4 games.
5. It's defensive line gave up an average last night of 40 lbs to Bama's O-line.
6. Has two QBs that have never played in this system before.
7. Has a team that is now on it's third Head coach and system in 3 years.
8. Got the job 10 days before last season's recruiting was over and did a hell of a job keeping us in the top 20 with no staff, just his personality.

Gee, you all are some knowledgeable fans there. Wonder why Hamilton didn't offer one of you all the Head Coaching job? Wonder where we'd be with one of you all out there day in day out? I'll tell you where we'd be, 0-7.

You all need to get a life and think about next year. And thank God on your knees, that you all still get the privilege of watching Tennessee play football! :no:

YOU TELL THEM TED.:clapping::thumbsup::salute:

 

[SGMVols]

So we're all "old women", but need to grow up? Solid

There's a difference between Dooley bashing and simply stating that he's probably not the right guy for the job.

Not a true fan IMO JMO BBQ.

 

[volstuff37641]

I will attempt to answer that and it will probably ruffle some feathers, but it's just my opinion, which isn't really worth all that much. So keep that in mind.

When we hired Kiffin, we weren't the best team with the best players. However, you could tell things were going the right way. The team was disciplined, the players played hard. They were getting the right personnel on the field, they were getting recruits etc.. They were getting the little things right and when you're a team that doesn't have all that much, those little things count for A LOT. Those little things keep you in ball games.

Now, look at Dooley and company. None of the things listed above are happening. Not only are they not happening, the same stupid mistakes, such as not getting 11 players on the field, keep happening.

When you're rebuilding, the building process starts with a foundation. Kiffin and company were building a solid foundation. Dooley and company aren't thus far. It's that simple.

It doesn't take a genius to realize that UT was forced to make a knee jerk decision after Kiffin left. Had they been able to go about finding a coach the right way, Dooley would have been at the bottom of the list, if he was on it at all.

you may be a 5 star mod,but your opion about a kneen jerk decision is just totally off base.

 

[YankeeVol]

It's disappointing....don't think the record would be much different regardless of who the coach is though

 

[OWB]

you may be a 5 star mod,but your opion about a kneen jerk decision is just totally off base.

How so? Explain that. Surely not just because you say so.

 

[OWB]

It's disappointing....don't think the record would be much different regardless of who the coach is though

I'm not judging by the record. I knew this season would be a wash before it started. I'm disappointed with what they're doing with what they've got. Which admittedly, isn't much.

 

[JustBeDecent]

you have to give your program 3 to 4 years to see what the new guy does, unless you are replacing a legend and have a team coming off a 9 or 10 win year . . . so unless there are NCAA incidents, more off-campus beat downs, or relations with farm animals on court square, he gets my support as our guy . . . that said, I, and we, are allowed to question or disagree without being social or physical lepers . . . the management does look shaky but until another year occurs who knows if its on Coach and staff or the mental midgets out there that they will have recruited (these aren't all theirs) . . . long tough road back to the upper elevations of college football, thanks to the prior staffs for allowing this disease to go untreated and for the admins for looking the other way while the ship burned . . .

and also, it is a privilege to have seen the program and to see them, may it continue to be so and not deVOLve

 

[vol_in_ar]

Dooley will correct the ship...but you fair weather fans that expect it to be done halfway through the first season are nuts !!! Do you not remember what we just went through the past 18 months? Its not like he inherited a 10-1 team that was stacked with all american talent. He inherited a sub .500 team with lack of depth, lack of seniority, and lack of confidence...

Everyone is quick to point out Dooley’s record at La Tech (17-20) and always emphasize the win/loss ratio. However, what they fail to mention in that discussion are the strong out of conference teams that La Tech played those three years that are embedded into that Win/loss record:

Boise State (3 times)
California
Ole Miss
Auburn
LSU (2 Times)
Mississippi State
Kansas (Ranked 14th at the time)

Case in Point: 10 of his 20 total losses were against MUCH, MUCH better programs….A coach might squeak an upset in here and there, but 9 times out of 10 you are getting a loss… However, during that span, they did also manage to beat Hawaii and Mississippi State

* Dooley also went 5-1 in his last 6 games of 2008 AND led La Tech to their first bowl game win in over 30 years……

He accomplished a lot at La Tech with very, very little. Imagine what he’s going to do with state of the art facilities, our fan base and the support of UT. I have plenty of faith in Dooley over the long term and the entire staff he has put together ….We are going to have some bumps, but we will be back sooner than anyone believes.
Our losses right now are purely due to lack of depth and extremely young players driving the train...none of which is Dooleys fault, he's just trying to get what he can out of what we've got. Go Vols.

Who did he upset during his tenure at LA Tech

 

[BigVolFan]

I can completely understand backing Dooley because he's our coach. But what makes anyone think that he's qualified for this job?

He was 17-20 at Louisiana Tech.

I understand that we have no depth, but there's no excuse for Bama to score in four plays in the beginning of the second half after the players have had a break.

He failed to motivate the team after the devastating LSU lose.

So far recruiting is crap and the only reason that we had a top ten recruiting class this past year was because half of the recruits were already enrolled

The whole substitution isn't the young player's fault the coaches need to be on top of it. There are 3-5 coaches on each side of the ball being paid well. THEY NEED TO BE ON TOP OF IT.

DOOLEY WASN'T EVEN OUR FIRST CHOICE!!!


I understand backing our coach and I understand that he was the only one who accepted the challenge. And before you all bash me for this but with everything with the depth problems, the lack of talent, and young players, answer me this... WHAT HAS DEREK DOOLEY DONE TO SHOW YOU THAT HE CAN BRING US BACK TO SUCCESS?

PS. EVEN THOUGH I'M BASHING DOOLEY I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR TROUBLES ARE HIS FAULT. I did expect a .500 season or less. I'm just trying to see the positives of this guy and understand why HE'S THE RIGHT GUY

Ok so he was not the first choice but the other choices turned us down, so was there a better route MH should have taken? CDD held out recruiting class well most of it together. He pulled some great assis coaches so what more did you want?

 

[vol_in_ar]

you may be a 5 star mod,but your opion about a kneen jerk decision is just totally off base.

Dooley was hired after less than a week, how is that not knee jerk

 

[SGMVols]

you may be a 5 star mod,but your opion about a kneen jerk decision is just totally off base.

Yeah, acting like you have to make a hire in 3 days is completely rational.

 

[BigVolFan]

It's disappointing....don't think the record would be much different regardless of who the coach is though

What a great statment, I wish people would understand this instead of making posting of how CDD sucks.

 

[allvol17]

How so? Explain that. Surely not just because you say so.

I will attempt to answer that and it will probably ruffle some feathers, but it's just my opinion, which isn't really worth all that much. So keep that in mind.

When we hired Kiffin, we weren't the best team with the best players. However, you could tell things were going the right way. The team was disciplined, the players played hard. They were getting the right personnel on the field, they were getting recruits etc.. <snip>

I'll have to disagree with you, especially on the bolded comments. But I concede that the team appeared more discipline - but that may be a side effect of youth.

Here's my take:

(1) This years team is way behind in terms of overall talent, depth, and leadership compared to last years team. We are so thin at so many positions that we're like rice paper.

(2) I think the players are playing hard. Depth is killing us and good teams are wearing us down by the middle of the third. Oregon ran by us. Alabama just ran over us.
We gave up about 35 lbs per man on average to their offensive line. No way we were going to hold up their run game all day. We simply don't have the bodies for it. Then add in two hard hitting, hard running, big backs on top of that (one's fresh all the time) and we see the result.

(3) IMO, Kiffin's recruiting was all about making a headline. He saw the need at the O and D line but didn't try to fix it. He blamed Fulmer for the lack of depth (rightfully so in some respect) but made no attempt to address the problem. Why? Because O and D linemen aren't gonna get you a top 10 class.

Everybody is down on Dooley because of his recruiting. They worry about some mythical "recruiting national championship." Dooley is filling the positions of need.

And before all the sages here talk about having to have the best recruits to compete, I'd just like to remind you of three things:

(1) Texas' performance yesterday.
(2) Florida's performance this year.
(3) TCU and Boise State don't rank anywhere near the top most years.