Football Training Suggestions

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VolNation, looking for some help and suggestions. I have three young men heading into the 9th grade who have asked me to help them get in shape for football next year. I have my years in the Army and can build a program for them but don't want to reinvent something that is already out there. Anyone have any suggestions or programs they use, please send them my way.

Note: All three are the same height at 5'11" but still growing. One is skinny at about 140lbs, the second is a stout 200lbs and the third is huge at around 305lbs. All are in the gifted program in the 8th grade, so they are smart and all are very athletic. Thanks for any help anyone can send. Also, thanks in advance for the inappropriate but probably funny comments that will come as well!
 
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Look into Crossfit football or bigger faster stronger both are great places for high school athletes
 
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Conditioning is a lot more important than strength right now.

Up hills, in sand or in mud.

Get them running gassers. A whole lot of gassers.

Then do resistance running if you can. If nothing else tie a sheet around one of them and have the other two hold back.

Then you start with basic bench, cleans and squats.
 
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whatever you do, keep them away from stuff like p90x. that stuff is great for the average person wanting to get into shape, but for athletes it is virtually useless. focus on making them quicker and more powerful. tires, agilities, stairs, short explosive sprints (10-20 yds). quickness takes development and is easy to do. also, I would look into finding a good periodized weightlifting program. periodized lifting programs that are specific to the sport are the most effective plans out there. if you are near a decent college there will be a ton of professors/grad students that can do this and most would love to help out. it may cost you a little, but it will be well worth it in the end.
 
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Im a trainer and coach at Solus Performance in Jackson. We train pro, college, and HS. Shoot me an email: jobrien@solustraining.com, or hit us up on the web: solustraining.com. Id love to help your guys out.

Two of our athletes were Jackson Sun players of the year this past year: Austin Taylor - UT walk-on and Jabril Washington - Bama.
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The speed and agility drills in Nike Sparq isn't a bad place to start. It focuses on developing quick bursts of energy every 45 secs as well as sustained cardio.
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Also, they're still developing so don't go full bore on the weight lifting routines.
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This time of year conditioning is very important. Sprints, gassers, working on their foot work especially for the 300 pounder like the L-drill, dots, jump rope, just basic stuff you have probably seen before. Like you said your not reinventing the wheel. I could show you better than I can tell you some of the things I learned at the coaches clinic a couple of weeks ago. Dude if you could find a coaches clinic happening near you, you'll learn a **** ton of drills to help those young guys!! That's awesome your working with those young men that's what kids need now days keep up the good work York.
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milohimself said:
Also, they're still developing so don't go full bore on the weight lifting routines.
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Ehhh I have to disagree. They are soon to be freshman, I think they are ripe for hard core weight lifting. I know at the program that I volunteer at as soon as winter workouts begin coach chatman throw those soon to be freshman in there with the older kids. Jmo
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That's fine, just saying that achieving the same goals for someone in their 20's versus somebody still in the middle of their teenage years should be different.

Another thing I notice at the gym alllllllll the time is nearly anybody who's throwing iron and is under 20-ish years old has terrible form so they can throw up "crazy weight" and impress their friends. It's absolutely critical they get proper supervision and coaching while lifting.
 
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Thanks guys, knew I would get some great feedback. One of the kids did attend the Big 33 camp last summer and played at the midget level last year, the other two have no experience, mainly due to some typical family and inner city issues, so I'm starting from scratch. The big guy's brother played a couple of years at Ohio State so the HS coach has visited and wants him down around 285 before August. I think that is feasible, just need to get him moving. Conditioning, quickness, footwork, form, good suggestions, thanks again!
 
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loosecannon said:
whatever you do, keep them away from stuff like p90x. that stuff is great for the average person wanting to get into shape, but for athletes it is virtually useless.
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I don't exactly agree with that. If thats all you do then yes its no good. But adding that in with running and the Bigger, Faster, Stronger workout program is a really good combination. P90x can condition your muscles and your core very well. But that alone without Squats and Power Clean does you no good..

& To answer the question make sure you do a lot of sprints and speed drills. Speed Speed Speed is very important going into Freshman year. Natural Strength will come as they lift. They need quickness and discipline. I noticed in High school going from AE to Claiborne we did much less speed drills. And also remind them to at all times in practice go 100% SPEED. That was another thing I noticed. The speed they practice the faster it is, the faster they will play.
 
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I'd say at this point the three biggest things would be 1. speed and agility drills like sprints for the speed and cone drills for agility. Don't forget the jumping aspect though, find a high curb or buy some plyo boxes and get them all jumping as much as possible. 2. Condition, condition, condition. As freshman they more than likely won't be finished products athletically so they most likely won't be quite as strong or fast as the other players but they can always be In better shape and that can make a huge difference. 3. Form and understanding of their specific positions. Just like conditioning form can make up for lack of pure physical ability. Teach them perfect technique and repeat repeat repeat. Strength will come with time and growth. Lay the foundation first.
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Ertel said:
I'd say at this point the three biggest things would be 1. speed and agility drills like sprints for the speed and cone drills for agility. Don't forget the jumping aspect though, find a high curb or buy some plyo boxes and get them all jumping as much as possible. 2. Condition, condition, condition. As freshman they more than likely won't be finished products athletically so they most likely won't be quite as strong or fast as the other players but they can always be In better shape and that can make a huge difference. 3. Form and understanding of their specific positions. Just like conditioning form can make up for lack of pure physical ability. Teach them perfect technique and repeat repeat repeat. Strength will come with time and growth. Lay the foundation first.
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^^ Nailed it. Just remember this too. Teach them to excel past their team. idk what school they will be playing for but remind them this. They never need to slack in practice bc somewhere out there there are teams like.. Maryville, Independence, and other elite schools where they are never allowed to slack, and if they really love the game like they say they should push themselves to be better than everyone around them. Teach them to shoot for being better than the best player not in their team but in their conference. Don't let them get a self deserved title. You see a lot of that going on imo on teams that are lower tier in east Tennessee.
 
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Crossfit is fantastic. High intensity, focused bursts, and conditioning. Also, because it often uses light weight, you can teach them proper form easily with minimal risk.
 
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milohimself said:
That's fine, just saying that achieving the same goals for someone in their 20's versus somebody still in the middle of their teenage years should be different.

Another thing I notice at the gym alllllllll the time is nearly anybody who's throwing iron and is under 20-ish years old has terrible form so they can throw up "crazy weight" and impress their friends. It's absolutely critical they get proper supervision and coaching while lifting.
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I agree, proper technique is very very very important!! Scott cochran at alabubba told us a couple of weekends ago that the proper technique they don't lift with belts.
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No offense but the weight does need to be challenging. Crossfit is otherwise solid though. The key to football conditioning in whatever you do is expending maximal effort every 45 or so seconds.
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Coach Grizz said:
I agree, proper technique is very very very important!! Scott cochran at alabubba told us a couple of weekends ago that the proper technique they don't lift with belts.
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Belts are for power lifting and body building, not athlete training.
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