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#226
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Rorban said:
If we have to resort to replacing Dooley with another D-List coaching candidate like he was, I'd rather see him stay for next season and 2013.

However, if we're able to get a good coach to take this job then Dooley needs to go.

Candidates I'd like to see would be:

Butch Davis - Former UNC HC - no way with his NCAA issues.
Lovie Smith - Former(?) Chicago Bears HC - he's secure at Chicago. This is who I wanted last time though.
Jack Del Rio - Former Jacksonvile Jaguars HC - will probably be available in about a month and a half. No college experience though.
Art Briles - Baylor HC - not a big enough name to fire CDD.
Gus Malzahn - Auburn Offensive Coordinator - interesting thought.
Greg Schiano - Rutgers HC - see Briles above.
Charlie Strong - Louisville HC - this would be my realistic choice at this point.

Throw in the Jon Gruden pipedream. - never, ever, ever, ever happening.


All of those guys would be better hires worthy of firing Dooley after 2 years to upgrade to.
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See above.
 
#227
#227
TennesseeJet said:
Keep Dooley and lower ticket prices by 50%. I'll watch them play for a Div2 coach at Div 2 ticket prices.

Seriously, Dooley is a loser. Nice guy, but couldn't motivate a wino to drink.
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I think this is one of his biggest problems. So obvious.
 
#228
#228
DBrewCrew said:
What cracks me up with all of these "fire Dooley" people, is that most of these people probably never even have been around football programs such as this to know a thing about what it takes to succeed. Most of these people, probably not one fringe of athletic ability in themselves and have never played organized sports. Yet they are "experts" in being able to determine
whether a coach should or should not be fired ----- SIMPLY PATHETIC!!!
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I had no issues with your post until the last paragraph. To quote my dad, "You don't have to be the jockey to know who won the race." Just because you didn't play football or maybe don't have "one fringe of athletic ability" doesn't mean you can't have a valid opinion about the program. I absolutely HATE this logic.
 
#230
#230
bnhunt said:
I had no issues with your post until the last paragraph. To quote my dad, "You don't have to be the jockey to know who won the race." Just because you didn't play football or maybe don't have "one fringe of athletic ability" doesn't mean you can't have a valid opinion about the program. I absolutely HATE this logic.
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My point is, who are you to question whether or not someone like Dooley needs to be fired, when you have no clue what is involved?? I'm not a doctor, but do I begin to think that I know more than a surgeon or doctor? Absolutely not, why? Because I'm not a doctor. Everybody thinks they're the expert, and they "know" everything. Most everyone has no clue of all the circumstances and have the full picture period......

I'm sorry, but your logic on the jockey is pathetic. You don't have to be an "Einstein" to know who whens a horse race. Ya better bring something better to the table bro.....

Sorry if I upset you because you perhaps were the last person chosen on a pick up game because of your lack of athletic talent.
 
#231
#231
Change will have to be made,probably not Dooley but i think a new OC and DC is in order.Especially Wilcox.Did you all realize we just played a terrible Kentucky team without its starting Qbs,All game long i was saying,gee what are they going to do next,hmmm,....probably run it i think.Yet we still had lbs and the secondary 10 yards from the line of scrimmage.Don't even get me started on Chaneys playcalling,...you just don't run a play in the wildcat formation when you been running it from a pro-set up the middle for 3-7 yards per attempt most the game.I did like Cheneys QB lineage with Brees and Orton but his play calling at Tennessee has been questionable at best.
 
#232
#232
DBrewCrew said:
What makes me sick about all of this fire Dooley talk is that people today are soooooo impatient. They want everything and they want it now.

Vol fans, (and believe me, I'm a fan, it was a bummer to find out that we had lost to UK today), here's a head's up to you..... Tennessee football is no where near to what we were accustomed to in the 90's. Now can we get back to there? Of course, but it's going to take time. We cannot compare us to the Alabama's, LSU's, Florida's, and so forth of the college football landscape. To do a turn around at any of those schools compared to Tennessee would be a whole lot easier. We don't have the luxury of instate talent that any of those schools have. On top of that, we have what Phil Fulmer left this program. There is no disputing that part of the situation that was left is Phil's responsibility due to lackluster recruiting and talent evaluating.

If Tennessee were to fire Dooley at this early stage, do you even realize what impact it would have on the current recruiting class??? There would be decommitments left and right. And that's the last thing you need when you're trying to bring back your talent level to compete with the big dogs.

If Tennessee were to fire Dooley right now, I hope he goes to another school, and they KICK OUR BUTTS every year for lacking the patience to give the guy a fair chance.

What cracks me up with all of these "fire Dooley" people, is that most of these people probably never even have been around football programs such as this to know a thing about what it takes to succeed. Most of these people, probably do not have one fringe of athletic ability in themselves and have never played organized sports. Yet they are "experts" in being able to determine
whether a coach should or should not be fired ----- SIMPLY PATHETIC!!!
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what Div1 school have you coached at ? and where are you coaching at now ?
 
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#233
DBrewCrew said:
My point is, who are you to question whether or not someone like Dooley needs to be fired, when you have no clue what is involved?? I'm not a doctor, but do I begin to think that I know more than a surgeon or doctor? Absolutely not, why? Because I'm not a doctor. Everybody thinks they're the expert, and they "know" everything. Most everyone has no clue of all the circumstances and have the full picture period......

I'm sorry, but your logic on the jockey is pathetic. You don't have to be an "Einstein" to know who whens a horse race. Ya better bring something better to the table bro.....

Sorry if I upset you because you perhaps were the last person chosen on a pick up game because of your lack of athletic talent.
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So, what you are saying is that because you are NOT a doctor, you have insufficient knowledge to avoid one who has a rotten track record in terms of losing/saving patients during heart surgery...instead of going to one who has a stellar record?

Is that what you are saying? You HAVE to be a surgeon in order to make an informed healthcare decision for yourself or family member?
 
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#234
#234
1 more year, if he don't win or atleast finish 2nd in the weaker SEC East, he has to go. Sirmon and Bagget should stay, other wise clean house. Absolutely terrible.
 
#236
#236
Lol, it's killing me. All these people stating that the fans' opinions don't matter because they didn't coach or play the game. I've never built a car, but if I buy one that doesn't run, I can figure out that changes need to be made in the manufacturing process........
 
#237
#237
tnvols72 said:
what Div1 school have you coached at ? and where are you coaching at now ?
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No, I'm not a coach. Which is my point. Do I question Dooley at this point? No. And it's pretty reasonable why no one in their right mind at this point, knowing what Dooley inherited coming here would question him.

Now, if he reels in this recruiting class as it appears he will, and sustains no injuries next year as he did this year, and still doesn't perform?? Then, as "Einstein" mentioned earlier, it would make you begin to question things. Which, those that DO know coaching, and are more involved with this program, would be two steps ahead of us "average Joe" fans in evaluating whether a change is needed.

For right now, we need to be patient, and give it one more year at least.
 
#238
#238
If the donors are to blame for hiring the current coach (as is rumored), I'd support the new AD if he did the opposite of whatever they suggested.

We need an AD with gonads... UT football not heading towards any championships under this staff.
 
#239
#239
DBrewCrew said:
My point is, who are you to question whether or not someone like Dooley needs to be fired, when you have no clue what is involved?? I'm not a doctor, but do I begin to think that I know more than a surgeon or doctor? Absolutely not, why? Because I'm not a doctor. Everybody thinks they're the expert, and they "know" everything. Most everyone has no clue of all the circumstances and have the full picture period......

I'm sorry, but your logic on the jockey is pathetic. You don't have to be an "Einstein" to know who whens a horse race. Ya better bring something better to the table bro.....

Sorry if I upset you because you perhaps were the last person chosen on a pick up game because of your lack of athletic talent.
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you try to sound intelligent and all but before you do you need to learn how to spell "wins" not whens.

I guess people are going off on Dooley on how the team looks on the field and the wins/losts.Maybe your not tired of seeing this side show but alot of people are.because people doesnt agree with you doesnt make them wrong and dont act like your in the know of the situation and what needs to be done.
 
#240
#240
VOLorNuttin said:
So, what you are saying is that because you are NOT a doctor, you HAVE to go to one who has a rotten track record in terms of losing/saving patients during heart surgery...instead of going to one who has a stellar record?

Is that what you are saying? You HAVE to be a surgeon to make that judgement? Sounds so logical...or not.
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Don't try to mix my words. First of all, I wouldn't go to a doctor with a losing record...DUHHHH.........

Tennessee couldn't hire someone with a winning record remember?????? They all turned us down. Why????? Because this program is not as appealing as it was in the 90's, especially the state that it was left in when Kiffin bolted and Phil let it slide.
 
#241
#241
DBrewCrew said:
No, I'm not a coach. Which is my point. Do I question Dooley at this point? No. And it's pretty reasonable why no one in their right mind at this point, knowing what Dooley inherited coming here would question him.

Now, if he reels in this recruiting class as it appears he will, and sustains no injuries next year as he did this year, and still doesn't perform?? Then, as "Einstein" mentioned earlier, it would make you begin to question things. Which, those that DO know coaching, and are more involved with this program, would be two steps ahead of us "average Joe" fans in evaluating whether a change is needed.

For right now, we need to be patient, and give it one more year at least.
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this team doesnt even look like A SEC football team.Im not for sure what it looks like but its not a football team.this team is a reflection of their coach and thats Dooley.He loves to throw players under the bus.Everbody is the blame but him
 
#242
#242
bray8 said:
Dave Hart might pull the trigger as he has more sense that hammy had, and wants the program to suceed even if it means dooley is gone. Dave wont hesitate to put 4 or 5 million into a coach. Dave will listen to students and fans as he is more oriented for what the students and fans want.
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Lets see 15,000 empty seats at $55 x 7 home games = $5,775,000 Plenty of reasons to fire Dooley
 
#244
#244
tnvols72 said:
you try to sound intelligent and all but before you do you need to learn how to spell "wins" not whens.

I guess people are going off on Dooley on how the team looks on the field and the wins/losts.Maybe your not tired of seeing this side show but alot of people are.because people doesnt agree with you doesnt make them wrong and dont act like your in the know of the situation and what needs to be done.
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You're going to question me about my grammar??? Look at your own post why don't you

Yeah, you're upset with the current slide show. Can you speed up the misery? No. Does firing Dooley at this point speed it up? I doubt it. So you need to be patient. It's pretty sad if you're life's happiness depends on whether or not this team wins or losses....
 
#245
#245
DBrewCrew said:
My point is, who are you to question whether or not someone like Dooley needs to be fired, when you have no clue what is involved?? I'm not a doctor, but do I begin to think that I know more than a surgeon or doctor? Absolutely not, why? Because I'm not a doctor. Everybody thinks they're the expert, and they "know" everything. Most everyone has no clue of all the circumstances and have the full picture period......

I'm sorry, but your logic on the jockey is pathetic. You don't have to be an "Einstein" to know who whens a horse race. Ya better bring something better to the table bro.....

Sorry if I upset you because you perhaps were the last person chosen on a pick up game because of your lack of athletic talent.
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Actually "bro" I played DI college tennis, so I guess per your logic that makes me an expert on UT football. I 100% guarantee you that I am a better athlete than you, but that doesn't make my opinion any better than yours. You can have an intelligent opinion about the current state of our program without having been a great athlete.
 
#246
#246
DBrewCrew said:
You're going to question me about my grammar??? Look at your own post why don't you

Yeah, you're upset with the current slide show. Can you speed up the misery? No. Does firing Dooley at this point speed it up? I doubt it. So you need to be patient. It's pretty sad if you're life's happiness depends on whether or not this team wins or loses....
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FYP There are a lot, not alot, of good points here btw.
 
#247
#247
DBrewCrew said:
Don't try to mix my words. First of all, I wouldn't go to a doctor with a losing record...DUHHHH.........

Tennessee couldn't hire someone with a winning record remember?????? They all turned us down. Why????? Because this program is not as appealing as it was in the 90's, especially the state that it was left in when Kiffin bolted and Phil let it slide.
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I don't have to mix your words. Your own twisted logic does that all by itself.

Football coaches get hired and fired all the time. It's a volatile business, that's strictly based on one's track record. Just like a CEO of a corporation. They get fired by board members with lesser credentials...due to his/her record, period.

When coaches fail, it is the fans who light the fire under their seat. No coaching experience necessary to do it, either. Hamilton never coached a day in his life, but he had the power to hire/fire at any given moment.
 
#248
#248
bnhunt said:
Actually "bro" I played DI college tennis, so I guess per your logic that makes me an expert on UT football. I 100% guarantee you that I am a better athlete than you, but that doesn't make my opinion any better than yours. You can have an intelligent opinion about the current state of our program without having been a great athlete.
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Sorry, my point about athletic ability was just in line with people that are not experienced enough with what they're talking about to make a just call.

That's wonderful that you have more athletic talent than me. The thing is though, I don't have "an opinion" at this point. And because you're a D1 tennis player makes you an expert on a high level football program???? Now if we were talking tennis, I would be interested in anything and everything you would have to say about the current state of our men's tennis program.
 
#249
#249
VOLorNuttin said:
I don't have to mix your words. Your own twisted logic does that all by itself.

Football coaches get hired and fired all the time. It's a volatile business, that's strictly based on one's track record. Just like a CEO of a corporation. They get fired by board members with lesser credentials...due to his/her record, period.

When coaches fail, it is the fans who light the fire under their seat. No coaching experience necessary to do it, either. Hamilton never coached a day in his life, but he had the power to hire/fire at any given moment.
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Let's be honest, when Hamilton FINALLY made the move to get rid of Fulmer, it wasn't his decision. He was a puppet...

And I'm sorry, it's not mainly the fans that light the fire. It's the men with the money who run the program, i.e. Haslam. Let's be honest....
 
#250
#250
DBrewCrew said:
Sorry, my point about athletic ability was just in line with people that are not experienced enough with what they're talking about to make a just call.

That's wonderful that you have more athletic talent than me. The thing is though, I don't have "an opinion" at this point. And because you're a D1 tennis player makes you an expert on a high level football program???? Now if we were talking tennis, I would be interested in anything and everything you would have to say about the current state of our men's tennis program.
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Actually, if you were paying attention I was making the opposite point. Being a DI tennis player or any other athlete does not automatically make my opinion better than yours. In case you haven't noticed, this is a message board where people post their opinions, it's not about whether you have some inside knowledge, although I'll listen to that too. A lot of great posters on here who didn't play college football, but according to you they would have no credibility.
 
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