Football coaches favor early signing period, 10th full-time assistant

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I can't see a downside to the 10th coach. I also think the early signing period is going to eliminate a lot of the recruiting drama some of these players like to engage in, as well as insuring kids who commit early aren't affected by coaching changes. I hate seeing those kids and families left out in the cold two weeks before signing day.
 
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UT_VOLS13 said:
If passed, who would you like to see as a 10th full-time assistant?
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'Boro-vol said:
I can't see a downside to the 10th coach. I also think the early signing period is going to eliminate a lot of the recruiting drama some of these players like to engage in, as well as insuring kids who commit early aren't affected by coaching changes. I hate seeing those kids and families left out in the cold two weeks before signing day.
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Schools do it to kids, kids do it to schools. Two way street.

I would welcome knowing I'm being dropped by a team two weeks from NSD so I could look around. Alot of it happens the day of NSD.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I can't see a downside to the 10th coach. I also think the early signing period is going to eliminate a lot of the recruiting drama some of these players like to engage in, as well as insuring kids who commit early aren't affected by coaching changes. I hate seeing those kids and families left out in the cold two weeks before signing day.
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I agree on the 10th assistant.

Most of these schools are stockpiling coaches now anyway. See Wells and Sarkisian as examples.

Only downside to the early signing period I could see would be if a coach wants to take a flier on someone with borderline academics.

How does that work for a program if a kid ends up not qualifying?

The upside is as I think you allude to, it keeps these coaches from pulling bait and switches on players last minute.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Schools do it to kids, kids do it to schools. Two way street.

I would welcome knowing I'm being dropped by a team two weeks from NSD so I could look around. Alot of it happens the day of NSD.
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Glad I took you off ignore long enough to read this.

Being dropped two weeks prior may not be a big deal for a 4-5* guy. He'll land somewhere. There are a lot of tweeners (see our recent class) that might have a hard time making a switch that late....I've actually seen it with a kid my son played with. It's tough. An early signing period gets that kind of kid locked down. It'll make the coaches, like Butch Jones, think twice about loading up on early commitments they may not really want just to fill a spot. But it'll also protect the kid that steps out and makes a commitment early so he can focus on his senior year. It'll be good for college football.
 
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Early signing period will simply be another situation where kids will want out of the LOI if coaching changes occur. Its already a clusterf-uck in basketball with entire classes leaving; now we'll see the same **** in football. No Thanks.
 
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wmcovol said:
Early signing period will simply be another situation where kids will want out of the LOI if coaching changes occur. Its already a clusterf-uck in basketball with entire classes leaving; now we'll see the same **** in football. No Thanks.
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That's one side of it, to be sure. Maybe they'll learn from the mistakes made with baseball, and structure it in such a way as to avoid it. Personally I'm old school....You make a commitment and you stick to it. Once the LOI is signed it should be ironclad. You leave, you follow the transfer rules and lose a year of eligibility. Everybody has to have skin in the game.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
I agree on the 10th assistant.

Most of these schools are stockpiling coaches now anyway. See Wells and Sarkisian as examples.

Only downside to the early signing period I could see would be if a coach wants to take a flier on someone with borderline academics.

How does that work for a program if a kid ends up not qualifying?

The upside is as I think you allude to, it keeps these coaches from pulling bait and switches on players last minute.
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I would think there will be guidelines to accepting an early signee, and one should be qualifying academically. Being a borderline student should disqualify that athlete from signing early, or at least make the school wary of locking him in. If they do, let it count against their limits. They should have known better.

In Tennessee's case, I could see guys like Cade Mays or Alontae Taylor taking this option. Both have stated their loyalty to Tennessee, and signing early let's them avoid the noise of further recruitment.
 
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As to the tenth coach, it seems a matter of what a team might need most. Since George Cafego left, I don't think Tennessee has had a dedicated coach for kickers. However, if anything has been a strength of the program, it has been the kickers and punters. So, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

With all the changes in the staff, it is impossible to figure out where an addition is most needed. However, I am sure Butch will figure it out.
 
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An early signing period would hurt UT and other major football schools. The bigger schools battle over the elite prospects then fill their needs with leftover recruits and usually steal some from smaller schools. If the lower guys signed their LOI's we would have fewer to fill our needs.
 
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amillz said:
An early signing period would hurt UT and other major football schools. The bigger schools battle over the elite prospects then fill their needs with leftover recruits and usually steal some from smaller schools. If the lower guys signed their LOI's we would have fewer to fill our needs.
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You know, recruiting should benefit both the school AND the student athlete. This is not the NFL. The good of student athlete should be of primary concern.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
You know, recruiting should benefit both the school AND the student athlete. This is not the NFL. The good of student athlete should be of primary concern.
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Well as a fan of UT I wish it wouldn't change. It also gives some of these lower rated guys a chance to slip into a P5 scholarship at the last minute instead of being stuck at smaller school.
 
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Think about it , Tyler Bryd/Latrell Williams/Palmer and others probally wouldn't be Vols if that early period existed.
 
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wmcovol said:
Early signing period will simply be another situation where kids will want out of the LOI if coaching changes occur. Its already a clusterf-uck in basketball with entire classes leaving; now we'll see the same **** in football. No Thanks.
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I like having only one signing date although I support the current earlier signing date fro JUCO and HS seniors who graduate early. I think February may be a little late, but realize it should be after HS playoffs and College bowl games.
 
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I'm out of the loop.

When would they change it to?

Change the date and it won't change the action. Same drama just different month.

EE sign early.

10>9.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
I'm out of the loop.

When would they change it to?

Change the date and it won't change the action. Same drama just different month.

EE sign early.

10>9.
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Two signing days...An early one in Nov/Dec, and the normal one in February.

Your seriously committed guys will sign on the first date to get it out of the way. It may may the drama queens rethink the committing/ decommitting/ recommitting roller-coaster they seem to enjoy so much. If his spot may be gone you'll likely see the end of the guy waiting till the last minute or even until after signing day like we've seen before.

I see it as nothing but a positive if it's structured correctly from the outset.
 
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