Florida or Alabama?

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TUSKtimes said:
You must not have paid too much attention to the thread title before you entered into the great ongoing debate that burns deeply in orangeswarmland?

Not about Alabama? Heresy.
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i'm still part of the generations where Bama is still the 1st rival. probably won't change for me. but FL is more important to the season goals.

but i wouldn't be upset if we sent 15 or 20 thousand bammers home with a loss this year.

part of the problem....for the majority of the 20 games you mentioned, we haven't put a team on the feild capable of competing with, much less beating, FL or Bama who've both won multiple national titles in the last decade.

i'd say the last two years sting worse with FL because we were capable of beating them, and didn't.

i think the last two against Bama, i'd say we were competitive, though still understanding Bama is just better than we were.

going forward, if we continue to recruit and develop like we have so far, i expect to be competitive every year, and to win on a clip more than 1 in 9 or 1 in 11, respectively.

FL is on the way back up and Bama isn't going anywhere. so if we can get back in to winning those games on an every other year type of basis, then i think you say "mission accomplished"...cause if we can do that, then we're going to compete for SEC titles more than 1 or 2x a decade.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Which is more important?

If you lose to florida but win salami convincingly at the most difficult point of your season you have a chance to take it all and blame florida on "the curse." If you beat florida you make a bunch of 20 somethings happy but lose to salami you are going NOWHERE.

Even if by some luck you make it to ATL. nobody will believe you can do it and even the team will have no confidence they can do it, and if you lose twice you are a dud, even if you win ATL. people will say its a fluke. The season depends on beating salami, and beating them soundly no matter how you slice it. Beat them convincingly and you have a shot at a natty.

Sorry it's no what you want to hear.
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I am 30 something and beating Florida would make me ecstatic. Also, your post reminds me of a lecture a prof would give if they got hammered the night before class, showed up to class without their lesson plans and had to sling crap that seemed psuedo-knowledgeable off the cuff while barely being able to force coherent syllables to successfully make the commute from the Tequila haze currently serving as their brain to their lips.

Just sayin.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Don't be frightened. I told you salami was going to implode with thugism as soon as kiffen was hired. You should have had ample time to accept the inevitable.
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He's been there two years, has coached a Heisman trophy winner and Biletnikoff winner, has been a part of a national title team last season and just helped Bama bring in their umpteenth straight #1 recruiting class. I'm all about seeing Alabama implode, however it happens....I just don't see any evidence of it at the current time.
 
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The Crimson Cried said:
I am 30 something and beating Florida would make me ecstatic. Also, your post reminds me of a lecture a prof would give if they got hammered the night before class, showed up to class without their lesson plans and had to sling crap that seemed psuedo-knowledgeable off the cuff while barely being able to force coherent syllables to successfully make the commute from the Tequila haze currently serving as their brain to their lips.

Just sayin.
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I'd say that just about nails it as close as possible.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Perhaps the thread should read:

"Tampa or Bust"
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Some might back down from the expectations for #120, but the Captains won't. Tampa is expected and anything less will be disappointing.

See you in Knoxville and again in Atlanta if y'all are good enough.
 
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More important to beat Florida since they are in the East to ensure we win the East, then go to the SEC championship.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Why would you be worried? Combined, you're only 0 for the last 20 games.

Worried should have been 15 games ago.
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I don't live in the past. Pretty simple.

Question is, will you be posting here on the 3rd Sunday in October?
 
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KBVol said:
"Greg McElroy says he's leaning towards Florida in the East because he doesn't think Tennessee has the mentality to win big games."

"Booger McFarland just picked Tennessee in the East."

-Houston Kress
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After reading this, and listening to McElroy's weird comments about McKenzie and Tuttle being "disappointments" last season, I take back all the nice things I have said the past 12 months about McElroy's football IQ. He apparently does not do nearly as much research into teams as I had previously thought.
 
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I remember before Peyton when Bama had a 7 game streak on us that seemed to last forever and that sucked. But then we beat bama 10 out of 12 times and it was easy to put bama as a W in favor of the Vols preseason. Since Fulmer left the Vols haven't had the talent on both sides of the ball to compete until this year. These losing streaks have sucked but it has felt different because our talent hasn't been on the same level. This is the year the Vols have the talent and depth and can end two streaks. Go Vols!
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
After reading this, and listening to McElroy's weird comments about McKenzie and Tuttle being "disappointments" last season, I take back all the nice things I have said the past 12 months about McElroy's football IQ. He apparently does not do nearly as much research into teams as I had previously thought.
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It seems his head is being completely screwed into an ESPN socket...poor kid trying hard for Reese's job...:)

GO VOLS!
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
After reading this, and listening to McElroy's weird comments about McKenzie and Tuttle being "disappointments" last season, I take back all the nice things I have said the past 12 months about McElroy's football IQ. He apparently does not do nearly as much research into teams as I had previously thought.
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Man.. I heard that too. My impression is that he didn't get a good nights sleep and his Crimson bias bled through a little, and i must say, he does a pretty good job of masking it.

Picking Florida - low hanging fruit because of the streak, BUT based in reality? Taking all my biases away - just evaluating their last season and ours - I can't see UF having any kind of advantage. The streak is more in the fans heads than the teams. The will take care of business. VFL34 - if you are out there, back me up!
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Which is more important?

If you lose to florida but win salami convincingly at the most difficult point of your season you have a chance to take it all and blame florida on "the curse." If you beat florida you make a bunch of 20 somethings happy but lose to salami you are going NOWHERE.

Even if by some luck you make it to ATL. nobody will believe you can do it and even the team will have no confidence they can do it, and if you lose twice you are a dud, even if you win ATL. people will say its a fluke. The season depends on beating salami, and beating them soundly no matter how you slice it. Beat them convincingly and you have a shot at a natty.

Sorry it's no what you want to hear.
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if they can't beat this Florida (might be hard because they sure should have beaten the last two so maybe its a mental thing?) then they will struggle to win at UGA, A&M and then beating Bama. Losing to Florida makes it very likely they are not going to Atlanta and very likely bring lots of heat to Jones.
 
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Alabama getting to Atlanta isn't a slam dunk.

If not for two really screwed up plays, it would have been Tennessee and Ole Miss last year, and it might have kept Bama out of the playoff.

Screwy play number 1.
https://youtu.be/Ebd83-VwsQo?t=540

Screwy play number 2.
https://youtu.be/lqqeHdz-hsA?t=2

Shows you how fragile a season can be. Trip to Atlanta came down to 2 stinkin' plays!
 
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ptcarter said:
Alabama getting to Atlanta isn't a slam dunk.

If not for two really screwed up plays, it would have been Tennessee and Ole Miss last year, and it might have kept Bama out of the playoff.

Screwy play number 1.
https://youtu.be/Ebd83-VwsQo?t=540

Screwy play number 2.
https://youtu.be/lqqeHdz-hsA?t=2

Shows you how fragile a season can be. Trip to Atlanta came down to 2 stinkin' plays!
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If not for two screwy plays against Ole Miss (a crazy tip and the refs completely blowing the lineman downfield rule), Bama goes undefeated. Actually, if just one of those doesn't occur, Bama very well might have won the game.

Screwy plays happen. Every team has to catch breaks during every season.
 
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Volgrad98 said:
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This is still the best post in this dumb thread.
 
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ptcarter said:
Man.. I heard that too. My impression is that he didn't get a good nights sleep and his Crimson bias bled through a little, and i must say, he does a pretty good job of masking it.

Picking Florida - low hanging fruit because of the streak, BUT based in reality? Taking all my biases away - just evaluating their last season and ours - I can't see UF having any kind of advantage. The streak is more in the fans heads than the teams. The will take care of business. VFL34 - if you are out there, back me up!
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I took his comment about Tuttle and Kmac as being a disappointment in that Tuttle got hurt (disappointment) and Kmac was not ready physically to play a lot of snaps which also was a disappointment. I didn't take his comment as a slam on either.
 
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bamawriter said:
If not for two screwy plays against Ole Miss (a crazy tip and the refs completely blowing the lineman downfield rule), Bama goes undefeated. Actually, if just one of those doesn't occur, Bama very well might have won the game.

Screwy plays happen. Every team has to catch breaks during every season.
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You don't pay attention to this site much. Only UT gets lucky breaks. Ask some of our resident "experts".
 
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bamawriter said:
If not for two screwy plays against Ole Miss (a crazy tip and the refs completely blowing the lineman downfield rule), Bama goes undefeated. Actually, if just one of those doesn't occur, Bama very well might have won the game.

Screwy plays happen. Every team has to catch breaks during every season.
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Refs NEVER contribute to Bama's losses. First I ever heard that!
:eek:hmy:
 
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