Florida and Alabama To Rule SEC For Years To Come?

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lawgator1 said:
UT was way more than "a quarterback away from 3 or so more wins." You are deluding yourself if you think that was the only deficiency and fixing that problem is not going to magically propel UT to the likes of 9-3 or 10-2.
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judging from the quarterback play we recieved this year.........if we even have a serviceable quarterback you're telling me that won't make a difference in UCLA, Wyoming and Auburn games?

think about each of those games and how big of a negative impact our qb was in those games.

put Erik Ainge on the team in those three games.........we win. put Rik Clause as the QB in those three games and we win.

i'm not saying we're 1 player shy of being a world beater. i'm saying we're 1 player shy of going to a decent bowl vs 2 games below .500

and it's the truth.
 
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I unfortunatly could see the Gators and Bama staying on top for quite a while...If Urban doesn't go anywhere he will consistently pull in a top 5 class over the years. The state of Florida provides enough talent that FL. ST and Miami don't hurt UF, and Bama looks like they could send Aubie into submission at with the current situatuion going on there.

-Ga could be down with GT going to be giving them instate competition recruiting.
-SC will always have to deal with Clemson.
-Miss and MSU battle for recruits and we have seen what Houston Nutt can provide, 8 wins consitently then every blue moon a 9/10 win season and gettin destroyed in the SEC championship game.
-LSU could be back very soon, but I remember their fans wishing Miles would have gone to Mich last year during the SEC championship game so I am sure they aren't happy now....

We better get our stuff figured out quick while everyone else is having problems. If we can keep all our instate talent (since we don't have any big names schools to compete with) and pluck the top talent everywhere else, then we could work our way up with FL and Bama in a few yrs....but they have their S*** set pretty durn nice right now.
 
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lawgator1 said:
UT was way more than "a quarterback away from 3 or so more wins." You are deluding yourself if you think that was the only deficiency and fixing that problem is not going to magically propel UT to the likes of 9-3 or 10-2.
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now you've been reading posts from me for the better part of 3 years.

and i'm deluding myself all the sudden?

re read what i said. and then get back to me. 9-3 and 10-2 are your words. that this is/was the only deficiency are your words.

i can understand your point since you've beaten us 4 years in a row, i'm sure there's some spueriority issue there for you, but contrary to popular opinion in places like Gainesville, some of us TN fans are actually knowledgeable.

and no, i still don't think it's a reach to say if we had average to decent qb play we can beat freakin Wyoming, Auburn and UCLA.

have fun this weekend.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Completely agree.

UT was way more than "a quarterback away from 3 or so more wins." You are deluding yourself if you think that was the only deficiency and fixing that problem is not going to magically propel UT to the likes of 9-3 or 10-2.
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Unless your a complete imbecile you realize that should Tennessee have had even a remotely serviceable offense they would have won UCLA, Wyoming, and Auburn games. Thats 3 more wins.
 
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I saw the article. In my mind they are the two best coaches/recruiters in the conference. Richt is a distant 3rd. They are gonna own the conference. I've been impressed by the turnaround they did in just 2 years, pretty amazing. In 3 years we should know where Kiffin stands.
 
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i don't think you can look at the rosters for FL and Bama and not consider them factors for the SEC for the next 2-3 years for sure.

but i don't see any one team pulling off a complete domination like FL did in the 90's and no one will ever repeat the domination that Bear Bryant did at Bama again.

i mean really, what kind of limb is it to step out on and say "florida and Alabama are going to be really good for the next few years"

duh.
 
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Saban lost 6 games last year Urban lost 4. I don't see how 1 year says they will dominate for years to come.

They are loaded with young talent but plenty of teams are and have let down years. I think losing Harvin and Tebow which account for about 90 percent of their offense will hurt more than they care to admit. But they will still be good.

Alabama is overachieving this year. They will still be good but not as dominating as this year.

So I think both teams will be among the best, perhaps the best, but I don't think either one will dominate the conference. Certainly I don't expect to see Florida beating everyone by 3 touchdowns next year provided Tebow is gone.
 
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lawgator1 said:
UT was way more than "a quarterback away from 3 or so more wins." You are deluding yourself if you think that was the only deficiency and fixing that problem is not going to magically propel UT to the likes of 9-3 or 10-2.
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You didn't see the UCLA, Auburn and Wyoming games. We win all three of them with anything resembling a competent QB.

No, by no means is that the only deficiency UT had. And even if we had a decent quarterback, we don't beat UF, Alabama or UGA, and given how bad we were against USC, we probably lose to them too.

That all adds up to 8-4. A very unsatisfying 8-4, but still 8-4.
 
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Urban Meyer will take the ND job when Weis gets fired, and UF will go way down fast.
 
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At least we know now who ESPN will be pushing next year...Early start I guess...Kiffen will prove this to be just another one of the many failed articles on there site!
 
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jakez4ut said:
now you've been reading posts from me for the better part of 3 years.

and i'm deluding myself all the sudden?

re read what i said. and then get back to me. 9-3 and 10-2 are your words. that this is/was the only deficiency are your words.

i can understand your point since you've beaten us 4 years in a row, i'm sure there's some spueriority issue there for you, but contrary to popular opinion in places like Gainesville, some of us TN fans are actually knowledgeable.

and no, i still don't think it's a reach to say if we had average to decent qb play we can beat freakin Wyoming, Auburn and UCLA.

have fun this weekend.
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Ok, ok, I jumped the gun. Yeah, I can see that a beeter QB might have made some significant differences in those matchups. I think I got a little antsy at any suggestion that you were a QB away from beating Florida, Alabama, and Georgia, and kind of transmogrified them in my noggin.

Sorry.
 
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All rational minds can agree it will take more than just QB to put Tennessee in contention for the SEC again. But at this point, having a winning record due to reasonably proficient QB play would be a nice way to begin transitioning to that goal.

And for the love of God, it's Kiffin.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Ok, ok, I jumped the gun. Yeah, I can see that a beeter QB might have made some significant differences in those matchups. I think I got a little antsy at any suggestion that you were a QB away from beating Florida, Alabama, and Georgia, and kind of transmogrified them in my noggin.

Sorry.
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oklavol said:
I saw the article. In my mind they are the two best coaches/recruiters in the conference. Richt is a distant 3rd. They are gonna own the conference. I've been impressed by the turnaround they did in just 2 years, pretty amazing. In 3 years we should know where Kiffin stands.
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I wonder if Meyer will get the NFL itch. He seems like the kind of guy who'd, at least, want to give it a run.
 
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Basically, UF and Bama have earned the article. That's why everyone else who wants to compete is getting a new coach minus UGA and LSU.

UGA should maintain its confidence in CMR; he's light years better than his predecessor.

LSU will eventually realize they employ Coker, Jr. and will need to change.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Two things.

First, the article is written because of the game coming up and its obviously a huge game and so he's just taking another angle on it that hasn't been taken before.

Second, and speaking primarily of course to my beloved Gators, while its clearly a mistake to say that Alabama and Florida are going to "dominate" the conference even when the likes of Tebow and Harvin move on, it is correct I think to say that Florida is loaded talent-wise and has plenty of kids in the pike and so Florida should certainly be a contender for the foreseeable future. Not necessarily dominant. But always in the mix.
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Enjoy it while you can, next year when Weiss is fired, ND will unlock Fort Knox and will buy Meyer.
 
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I think saban heads back to the nfl in a couple of years, and meyer eventually will end up at notre dame, leaving the SEC wide open for kiffin and UT!
 
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Mandel names two teams. Therefore he gets TWO failboats.

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BY 2010 Meyer will be at ND and Saban will be at Michigan after RRod loses 6 games next year.
 
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utmba93 said:
I wonder if Meyer will get the NFL itch. He seems like the kind of guy who'd, at least, want to give it a run.
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I don't know of any NFL team interested considering the O he runs (spread) rather than a pro style offense.Same reasons no Nfl team went looking for option coaches in the 70's 80's well other than Switzer but he and J jones were friends anyways.
 
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Right now it's hard to imagine TN back as one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the SEC.
 
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DAVOL said:
I don't know of any NFL team interested considering the O he runs (spread) rather than a pro style offense.Same reasons no Nfl team went looking for option coaches in the 70's 80's well other than Switzer but he and J jones were friends anyways.
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Switzer had a number of NFL opportunities in the 1970s but preferred to stay at Oklahoma. After he turned down one team, he said it was because Oklahoma had more first-round draft choices than they did. He had been out of coaching for several years by the time Jerry Jones came calling.

Switzer was a good coach, period. You don't go .837 in what was usually the best conference in the nation in that era (this is when Alabama was running roughshod in a weak SEC), and not be really, really good. The same is true of Meyer. If he goes to the NFL, he'll have as good a chance to succeed as anybody.
 
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