Floor Leadership

#26
#26
I hate coming across like a harpy, but whether or not a player or team makes a high percentage of layups (or not) is also something that falls under the responsibility of coaches.

You can always say, "The coaches aren't missing those layups," and that would be true. (Of course)

But what if the coaching staff isn't using the right kind of drills, or not getting enough time and reps in practice to make them, and that results in players missing more layups than they should? What if the coaches aren't taking advantage of their power as coaches to create dreaded consequences for tossing up miss after miss after miss?

Just because we can sit behind the bench at games and hear the coaches saying all the right things like "Take care of the ball!!!" "Make your layups!!!!" "Stop throwing lazy passes!!!!" .... it's really not helpful unless they've gotten enough practice doing those things in an environment that promotes a fear that if they don't do it right they'll regret it, then all the words in the world won't do a darn bit of good.

Every single season I see them doing the very same boring layup drills where someone on staff stands under the basket with the big cushion that's supposed to represent an opponent creating contact. It doesn't work; the players could do these layup drills in their sleep. Ask around... find some books... try something new.

I guarantee if that if the COACHES were to put some kind of consistent fear of next-practice consequences into the players who are lackadaisical and careless when shooting layups that they'd concentrate a LOT harder in practice to make them, and would shoot better in games.

And for those who say, "It's up to the players to get in the gym for extra reps," I'd agree but would also reply, "I'll bet they'd be more inclined to do so if they were afraid of what Holly and staff might do in practice if I don't cut down on my turnovers and start making these layups!"


Yes!!! You are absolutely right!!! Everything the team and individual players do is under the control of the head coach
 
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#27
#27
I hate coming across like a harpy, but whether or not a player or team makes a high percentage of layups (or not) is also something that falls under the responsibility of coaches.

You can always say, "The coaches aren't missing those layups," and that would be true. (Of course)

But what if the coaching staff isn't using the right kind of drills, or not getting enough time and reps in practice to make them, and that results in players missing more layups than they should? What if the coaches aren't taking advantage of their power as coaches to create dreaded consequences for tossing up miss after miss after miss?

Just because we can sit behind the bench at games and hear the coaches saying all the right things like "Take care of the ball!!!" "Make your layups!!!!" "Stop throwing lazy passes!!!!" .... it's really not helpful unless they've gotten enough practice doing those things in an environment that promotes a fear that if they don't do it right they'll regret it, then all the words in the world won't do a darn bit of good.

Every single season I see them doing the very same boring layup drills where someone on staff stands under the basket with the big cushion that's supposed to represent an opponent creating contact. It doesn't work; the players could do these layup drills in their sleep. Ask around... find some books... try something new.

I guarantee if that if the COACHES were to put some kind of consistent fear of next-practice consequences into the players who are lackadaisical and careless when shooting layups that they'd concentrate a LOT harder in practice to make them, and would shoot better in games.

And for those who say, "It's up to the players to get in the gym for extra reps," I'd agree but would also reply, "I'll bet they'd be more inclined to do so if they were afraid of what Holly and staff might do in practice if I don't cut down on my turnovers and start making these layups!"

I agree. There is no debating that something in the system is not working. I disagree with those who say the problem is that Holly does not take a time-out or lacks basic X and O knowledge. She might not be the best X and O person but she is more than adequate. It is the training and skill building that seems to be lacking. The players keep struggling with the same issues year and year out. Something needs to be change in how practices are organized, the drills that are run, even how players evaluate and use film.
 
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#28
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Coaches don't turn the ball over. What we need is Meme to get serious on lay ups. It isn't cute or funny when she blows them. She really needs to get on herself about finishing at the rim. If she could make 80 percent of her layups, she could be a leader. I just can't understand how she will lead us and grin when she blows points. She needs to get her head on fundamentals, no blaming coaches, those misses are on her from now on.

If you are so adamant about it being players and not coaching,,,why didn't you vote to keep CHW in the"Simple Poll"?
At 143 against and 32 for...she could use your dedication where it counts
 
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#29
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Coaches don't turn the ball over. What we need is Meme to get serious on lay ups. It isn't cute or funny when she blows them. She really needs to get on herself about finishing at the rim. If she could make 80 percent of her layups, she could be a leader. I just can't understand how she will lead us and grin when she blows points. She needs to get her head on fundamentals, no blaming coaches, those misses are on her from now on.

Assist to TO ratio is a ball handler's scorecard...
The desired ratio for assist to turnover ratio is
2 to 1

Jaime: 84/62=1.35 to 1
Evina: 143/121=1.18 to 1
Jackson: 74/64=1.16 to 1
Hayes: 114/117= .97 to 1
Davis: 57/69= .82 to 1

Meme is 2/100 of a a percent under Evina.
If they kept stats on layup misses, I have no doubt that Meme would be over 80%.

Next topic?
 
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I agree. There is no debating that something in the system is not working. I disagree with those who say the problem is that Holly does not take a time-out or lacks basic X and O knowledge. She might be the best X and O person but she is more than adequate. It is the training and skill building that seems to be lacking. The players keep struggling with the same issues year and year out. Something needs to be change in how practices are organized, the drills that are run, even how players evaluate and use film.

Spot on!
 
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#31
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Westbrook's turnovers look a lot like Diamond's. Either trying to throw a highlight reel pass with no margin for error, or overestimating her teammates' ability for snaring the pass. Plus some mind boggling ones. I don't think her turnovers are any "better" than Diamond's, especially if it isn't corrected.

I agree with many points you make here on volnation, Amb3096. If I remember correctly, Westbrook looked up to Deshields in HS, and she wanted to play her freshman year with Deshields. Westbrook actually reminds me of Deshields because of her pull up game and her general confidence. But she must clean up the turnovers, many of which were either inexplicable or trying to make the highlight reel, much like Deshields. To be fair to Westbrook, I think she's more of a team player than Deshields.
 
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#32
#32
Floor leadership starts in the practice gym, no one is held accountable for the actions of the team...especially the head coach.
 
#33
#33
Turnovers and lack of three point and perimeter shooting skills is why this team did not win. You could also add weak defense against the dribble drive as a factor. I think two can be fixed with the right coach. The third three point and perimeter shooting is a skill that a player already had and one that must be achieved by a lot of hard work from the player.
A team that has consistent perimeter shooters will never be hampered by a zone defense and that is why Tennessee can never be effective against the zone. We do not have and haven't in the last few season had effective and consistent perimeter shooters.
This is another area where coaching comes in. Dangerfield was a not a great three point shooter in high school now after two seasons in college she is a consistent and dangerous threat. Top coaches have a program to develop players weaknesses our players never seem to overcome their weaknesses.
 
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