Fixing the Conference

#26
#26
Get rid of A&M, Ark, USCe, and Mizzou. Then do a 9 game conf schedule.

Agreed except for USCe. Why would you get rid of them? As for the others, I'm a big stickler on location and anybody thats not east of the Mississippi River and south of the Mason-Dixon line simply does not belong in the SOUTHEASTERN Conference! I'd oust Arkansas, Texas A&M and Mizzou and I'd bring in North Carolina, NC State, and Clemson. Regionally those schools make way more sense. Plus for rivalry week, the USCe and Clemson game would have much stronger implications.
 
#27
#27
Agreed except for USCe. Why would you get rid of them? As for the others, I'm a big stickler on location and anybody thats not east of the Mississippi River and south of the Mason-Dixon line simply does not belong in the SOUTHEASTERN Conference! I'd oust Arkansas, Texas A&M and Mizzou and I'd bring in North Carolina, NC State, and Clemson. Regionally those schools make way more sense. Plus for rivalry week, the USCe and Clemson game would have much stronger implications.

You make a good point about the region that makes sense.


If it all made sense depending on the current conference revenue model with television rights, market share, etc.
could the SEC keep the current teams and expand to include Clemson, North Carolina, and NC State?
The new schools would benefit from being part of the conference (more exposure and revenue from higher profile conference games)
and the existing schools would benefit from the additional revenue brought into the conference from the four new members?

(SEC annexes the rest of the Carolinas.)
 
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#29
#29
Do away with East and West Divisions and do this:

The top 2 teams would play in SEC Championship game

Eight game conference schedule:

Each team has 3 games each year against rivals
Tennessee would play Alabama, Georgia, and Vandy
Alabama would play Tennessee, Auburn, and Miss St.

On odd number years, Tennessee would play Ky, USC, LSU, Auburn, and Miss St.
On even number years, Tennessee would play Mizz, Fla, A&M, Ark, and Ole Miss

On odd number years, Alabama would play Ole Miss, LSU, Fla, Ark, and Ky
On even number years, Alabama would play USC, GA, A&M, Mizz, and Vandy

Nine game conference schedule:

Each team has 5 games each year against rivals
Tennessee would play Alabama, Georgia, Vandy, Ky, and USC
Alabama would play Tennessee, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, and LSU

On odd number years, Tennessee would play LSU, Auburn, Miss St, and Mizz
On even number years, Tennessee would play Fla,A&M, Ark, and Ole Miss

On odd number years, Alabama would play Fla, Ark, Ky, and USC
On even number years, Alabama would play Georgia, A&M, Mizz, and Vandy

Obviously, all teams would have similar schedules.

Benefits:

Any player in school for 4 years would get to play every team at least twice with at least one trip to all venues.
Strength of schedules would be more balanced.
The 2 teams atop the standings would be in the title game.

Tweak it as you wish, but don't you think it would be great?

It'd be great if you wanted your entire team injured before the end of the season.....
 
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#30
#30
Do away with East and West Divisions and do this:

The top 2 teams would play in SEC Championship game

Eight game conference schedule:

Each team has 3 games each year against rivals
Tennessee would play Alabama, Georgia, and Vandy
Alabama would play Tennessee, Auburn, and Miss St.

On odd number years, Tennessee would play Ky, USC, LSU, Auburn, and Miss St.
On even number years, Tennessee would play Mizz, Fla, A&M, Ark, and Ole Miss

On odd number years, Alabama would play Ole Miss, LSU, Fla, Ark, and Ky
On even number years, Alabama would play USC, GA, A&M, Mizz, and Vandy

Nine game conference schedule:

Each team has 5 games each year against rivals
Tennessee would play Alabama, Georgia, Vandy, Ky, and USC
Alabama would play Tennessee, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, and LSU

On odd number years, Tennessee would play LSU, Auburn, Miss St, and Mizz
On even number years, Tennessee would play Fla,A&M, Ark, and Ole Miss

On odd number years, Alabama would play Fla, Ark, Ky, and USC
On even number years, Alabama would play Georgia, A&M, Mizz, and Vandy

Obviously, all teams would have similar schedules.

Benefits:

Any player in school for 4 years would get to play every team at least twice with at least one trip to all venues.
Strength of schedules would be more balanced.
The 2 teams atop the standings would be in the title game.

Tweak it as you wish, but don't you think it would be great?
Interesting idea. But Tennessee should play Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and Kentucky every year!!! Who cares about playing Peabody U? It wouldn't bother me if they never played again.
 
#31
#31
Do away with East and West Divisions and do this:

The top 2 teams would play in SEC Championship game

Eight game conference schedule:

Each team has 3 games each year against rivals
Tennessee would play Alabama, Georgia, and Vandy
Alabama would play Tennessee, Auburn, and Miss St.

On odd number years, Tennessee would play Ky, USC, LSU, Auburn, and Miss St.
On even number years, Tennessee would play Mizz, Fla, A&M, Ark, and Ole Miss

On odd number years, Alabama would play Ole Miss, LSU, Fla, Ark, and Ky
On even number years, Alabama would play USC, GA, A&M, Mizz, and Vandy

Nine game conference schedule:

Each team has 5 games each year against rivals
Tennessee would play Alabama, Georgia, Vandy, Ky, and USC
Alabama would play Tennessee, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, and LSU

On odd number years, Tennessee would play LSU, Auburn, Miss St, and Mizz
On even number years, Tennessee would play Fla,A&M, Ark, and Ole Miss

On odd number years, Alabama would play Fla, Ark, Ky, and USC
On even number years, Alabama would play Georgia, A&M, Mizz, and Vandy

Obviously, all teams would have similar schedules.

Benefits:

Any player in school for 4 years would get to play every team at least twice with at least one trip to all venues.
Strength of schedules would be more balanced.
The 2 teams atop the standings would be in the title game.

Tweak it as you wish, but don't you think it would be great?

I don’t think - in this entertained scenario- Tennessee would end up with Georgia by any means (I get the feeling this was done because we recruit a lot of players from that area).

To entertain the scenario a bit further, though, what pairings would you create for the remaining SEC teams?
 
#32
#32
In a couple of years, we will pick up two more teams and go to 4 divisions and 3 games to determine SEC champion.

I say we pick up OK and NCst or VT.

North: Mizzou, KY, TN, Vandy
East: NCst/VT, SCAR, FL, GA
South: AL, MSst, Ole Miss, Aub
West: OK, aTm, Ark, LSU

3 games in division, a Cross-division rival with 3 other divisions (TN: FL or NCST/VT, AL, Ark), 3 rotational for division (except cross division rival) 2020: North plays South, so TN plays MSst, Ole Miss, Auburnplus AL rival. 2021: North plays West: so TN plays OK, aTm, LSU plus rival Ark. 2022: North Plays East so TN plays NCSt/VT, SCAR, GA plus rival FL.

Typical SEC Championship: 1. North vs 4. West, 2. South vs 3 East. Winners meet in SECCG. This will result in two more big revenue generating games for conference.


I like it, but hate to say that the North looks weeeaaakkk
 
#33
#33
You make a good point about the region that makes sense.


If it all made sense depending on the current conference revenue model with television rights, market share, etc.
could the SEC keep the current teams and expand to include Clemson, North Carolina, and NC State?
The new schools would benefit from being part of the conference (more exposure and revenue from higher profile conference games)
and the existing schools would benefit from the additional revenue brought into the conference from the four new members?

(SEC annexes the rest of the Carolinas.)

From what you prefaced the idea with, Clemson would be the only one out of the current conference revenue model (“television rights, market share, etc.”) which wouldn’t make sense.

In all likelihood, though, NC State wouldn’t be a possibility, either. It’s actually part of the University of North Carolina college system (unlike A&M, which was not an extension of the University of Texas system). And that also means that 7 or 8 of NC State’s 13 board members are specifically put in place by the main UNC school (Chapel Hill) itself...meaning the people put in place and given their jobs by UNC itself would be voting on something that would also likely hurt UNC itself. Doesn’t seem like that it would be all that likely to pass.
 
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#38
#38
In a couple of years, we will pick up two more teams and go to 4 divisions and 3 games to determine SEC champion.

I say we pick up OK and NCst or VT.

North: Mizzou, KY, TN, Vandy
East: NCst/VT, SCAR, FL, GA
South: AL, MSst, Ole Miss, Aub
West: OK, aTm, Ark, LSU

3 games in division, a Cross-division rival with 3 other divisions (TN: FL or NCST/VT, AL, Ark), 3 rotational for division (except cross division rival) 2020: North plays South, so TN plays MSst, Ole Miss, Auburnplus AL rival. 2021: North plays West: so TN plays OK, aTm, LSU plus rival Ark. 2022: North Plays East so TN plays NCSt/VT, SCAR, GA plus rival FL.

Typical SEC Championship: 1. North vs 4. West, 2. South vs 3 East. Winners meet in SECCG. This will result in two more big revenue generating games for conference.

SMH in a violent fashion left and right. In other words not no but........ NO!
 
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#39
A lot of the older fans see Bama as a larger rival than Florida.. it's interesting to see all the perspectives

I'm interested in your perspective. Sort of surprised to see it put that way. Alabama is THE Rival. The Florida rivalry, in my mind is a more recent development.

Though, I could have just said...

"A lot of younger fans see Florida as a bigger rival than bama."
 
#40
#40
Until a team losing in the SEC Championship cost an SEC team a spot in the playoff then the SEC won't even consider changing up the current format.
U mean like LSU costing UT the chance of playing Miami for the NC in 2001 ? But, I hear u, the SEC is not changing it anytime soon, especially when they get 2 teams in the Playoffs every 3 years or so
 
#41
#41
A lot of the older fans see Bama as a larger rival than Florida.. it's interesting to see all the perspectives

I'm one of those people who see Alabama as a bigger rival than Florida. It is far longer and more storied than our history with the swamp lizards.

Our biggest modern rivalry, though, has to be us. We've beaten ourselves more than any other team has beat us in the past fifteen years. If our regular games with long time opponents are to actually mean something again, we've got to stop losing to ourselves on and off the field.
 
#42
#42
I say oust Mizzou, Arkansas, and Texas A&M and pick up Clemson, Louisville, and Georgia Tech. This would make more sense regionally and it would at least make 3 of our current team's rivalry games at the end of the season more interesting because they would then have conference implications.
 
#43
#43
U mean like LSU costing UT the chance of playing Miami for the NC in 2001 ? But, I hear u, the SEC is not changing it anytime soon, especially when they get 2 teams in the Playoffs every 3 years or so

And really that’s still pretty much the only time the game boxed the SEC out of having a team in a potential national title game (or playoff spot) in the 26 years it’s been played.
 
#44
#44
I like the current set up except move Missouri to the West and Auburn to the East. Until Tennessee decides to start playing big boy football again, why on earth are we fighting to preserve, currently,the most lopsided "rivalry" in college football. Bama isnt interested in gender-neutral pronouns, Sex Weeks and a pipe dream of being a top 25 research university. They aint comin to our level of political correctness. They are interested in dominating college football and making massive amounts of money and publicity off of that, while their # of applications are going thru the roof. A change of direction in the top level of Tennessee is necessary (
governor, Board, President, etc) if things are going to change, football-wise. Pruitt may flirt with success but it wont be sustained under current environment. JMO
 
#45
#45
The Conference doesn't need fixing. It needs UT and Florida to be relevant again.

If you were to suggest tweaks to the conference, it would need to be in conjunction with an expansion to a 8 game CFB playoff (5 conference champs, 2 wildcards, top non Power 5 team). At that point, a 9 game schedule would work (Play 6 teams within division, 1 perm rival from other side, and 2 other teams from other side).
I don't want Florida relevant again.... ever. I hope they go winless and we roll 50 on them. Hell I hope Vandy rolls 50 on them.
 
#46
#46
In a couple of years, we will pick up two more teams and go to 4 divisions and 3 games to determine SEC champion.

I say we pick up OK and NCst or VT.

North: Mizzou, KY, TN, Vandy
East: NCst/VT, SCAR, FL, GA
South: AL, MSst, Ole Miss, Aub
West: OK, aTm, Ark, LSU

3 games in division, a Cross-division rival with 3 other divisions (TN: FL or NCST/VT, AL, Ark), 3 rotational for division (except cross division rival) 2020: North plays South, so TN plays MSst, Ole Miss, Auburnplus AL rival. 2021: North plays West: so TN plays OK, aTm, LSU plus rival Ark. 2022: North Plays East so TN plays NCSt/VT, SCAR, GA plus rival FL.

Typical SEC Championship: 1. North vs 4. West, 2. South vs 3 East. Winners meet in SECCG. This will result in two more big revenue generating games for conference.
Oklahoma?


We need to change the name of the conference then.
 
#47
#47
Get rid of A&M, Ark, USCe, and Mizzou. Then do a 9 game conf schedule.
We should keep USCjr. It used to be the SE C because the majority of the schools were in the southeast. Now it's just Power Conference number 1.

I like the idea of getting rid of Arky, TA&M and merging with the ACC. Spin off a few of those outliers to the Big East and rework the schedules/championship. Do something like a 4 team playoff at the conference level. Naaaaah. Not enough national money and hype for that to ever work.
 
#48
#48
Maybe ....I am.....showing my age, but I wish it would go back to the old days. 10 teams and conf champ goes to the Sugar Bowl.
Screw the BCS and CFP. Split NC's, so what.

I'll get blasted for this, but it's just how I feel.
 
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#49
#49
We should keep USCjr. It used to be the SE C because the majority of the schools were in the southeast. Now it's just Power Conference number 1.

I like the idea of getting rid of Arky, TA&M and merging with the ACC. Spin off a few of those outliers to the Big East and rework the schedules/championship. Do something like a 4 team playoff at the conference level. Naaaaah. Not enough national money and hype for that to ever work.
It's the South Eastern Conference. No team west of the Mississippi river should be included. And no team north of Kentucky either. Dump Arky, TAMU, Mizzou and pick up Va Tech, Ga Tech and maybe Louisville or NC St. After the scandals are cleared up though)
 
#50
#50
It's the South Eastern Conference. No team west of the Mississippi river should be included. And no team north of Kentucky either. Dump Arky, TAMU, Mizzou and pick up Va Tech, Ga Tech and maybe Louisville or NC St. After the scandals are cleared up though)

You'll never see additional schools from states with existing SEC members added. Bringing a Louisville, FSU or even Clemson adds nothing to the TV package money and that's what stirs the pot these days. Plus, Florida, GA, Kentucky, A&M and SC have formed an agreement that says they will oppose any attempt to bring in additional SEC schools in these states. That kills it cause bylaws say 75% of the members must agree to add additional schools.
 
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