Firing Philip Fulmer was the worst mistake a major program has ever made

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Vanbo73 said:
You sound a little butt hurt. Fact is, you and the rest of your ignorant fan base ran off a National Champ, Hall of Fame coach. You can twist your words all you want. It won't change the fact Tennessee is in this position because of fans like you.
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Two things people need to learn:

1. We are in this position because of bad hires.

2. Even if firing Fulmer made us destined to hire Dooley and Butch (note: it didn't), fans didn't get him fired. He got fired because his record over his last 5 years was barely better than Butch's was.
 
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SpiritOfNeyland said:
period.
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Wrong..we were in a downward spiral in recruiting and on the field. Getting Cut back for that one season prolonged it and gave us all a false sense of hope then he was hired away by Duke. It was the coaching hires and AD hires that got us where we are now.
 
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SpiritOfNeyland said:
Just want all you *******s who started the anti Fulmer talk back in the day to realize what you created.

Great job.
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I'd still rather strive for greatness than settle for mediocrity. Which is what the program became under Fulmer. It had gotten stale. I know. I sat through all of it. Been following the Vols for years. I was in Birmingham when the Deuce tied the game against Shuler and I watched Tee Martin take us to the promised land.

Fulmer had a lot of success and hat's off to him for navigating the Vols to a National Championship but it was time to hand it off.

Great programs sometimes have to wallow in the mire of striving for greatness for a season until greatness shows up.

How quickly we forget that the mighty Alabama, after Gene Stallings left, was mired in the misery of losing for 10 years until Nick Saban was handed a 5 million dollar check. For the 10 years between Stallings and Saban Alabama went 67-55 and had to vacate 21 of those victories because of the textbook scandal.

So one can settle for mediocrity or one can strive for greatness.

It will be fun times if our Nick Saban is about to show up.

Go Vols.
 
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114VOL said:
You and the other University of Fulmer fans are as delusional about him as he was about himself. He interviewed at both Louisville and Kansas. neither offered. In fact there's an article about his interview at Kansas. Look it up.

No one of significance made an offer. It's a fact. Sorry
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Ok So you listed 2 schools. So thats proof that no other significant school made him an offer? If thats such a fact, then it should be easily provable.
 
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I bet you idiots who defend Fulmer's mediocrity in the last decade of his career were carrying water for Butch and even Dooley. Because honestly the last two years of Butch where we had high expectations, fell flat but still had ok seasons were extremely Fulmer-esque.

Fulmer could never do anything without Cutcliffe and every damn body knows it whether you admit it or not. Had he not been re-hired in 2006 Fulmer wouldn't have lasted as long as he did.
 
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volman128 said:
I bet you idiots who defend Fulmer's mediocrity in the last decade of his career were carrying water for Butch and even Dooley. Because honestly the last two years of Butch where we had high expectations, fell flat but still had ok seasons were extremely Fulmer-esque.

Fulmer could never do anything without Cutcliffe and every damn body knows it whether you admit it or not. Had he not been re-hired in 2006 Fulmer wouldn't have lasted as long as he did.
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Or Fulmer could have made the right hire in '06 instead of bringing in Cutcliffe for a quick fix. You never know, but I bet Phil regrets both OC hires Cutcliffe and Clawson
 
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ajvol01 said:
Or Fulmer could have made the right hire in '06 instead of bringing in Cutcliffe for a quick fix.
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This is true.

Either way, I knew when Cutcliffe went to Duke, Fulmer was toast.

That extension Hammy gave Fulmer after the 2007 season is still one of the dumbest things a major AD has EVER done at any school.
 
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volman128 said:
This is true.

Either way, I knew when Cutcliffe went to Duke, Fulmer was toast.

That extension Hammy gave Fulmer after the 2007 season is still one of the dumbest things a major AD has EVER done at any school.
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I don't know, the $5 million buyout to Dooley stings me a lot more than $6 million to Fulmer
 
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volman128 said:
I bet you idiots who defend Fulmer's mediocrity in the last decade of his career were carrying water for Butch and even Dooley. Because honestly the last two years of Butch where we had high expectations, fell flat but still had ok seasons were extremely Fulmer-esque.

Fulmer could never do anything without Cutcliffe and every damn body knows it whether you admit it or not. Had he not been re-hired in 2006 Fulmer wouldn't have lasted as long as he did.
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Your right that Cutcliffe, played a major role in the success of Tennessee football. Fulmer, Cutcliffe and Chief.... The best band to ever Rock East Tennessee.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Or Fulmer could have made the right hire in '06 instead of bringing in Cutcliffe for a quick fix. You never know, but I bet Phil regrets both OC hires Cutcliffe and Clawson
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this. he had a real chance then to do what Saban has done since. evolve, and embrace the change, and find the best people to surround yourself with.

that was the big frustration...just kept doing the same things over and over, expecting it to just get better, when everything around was changing, for the better i might add, at a rapid pace.......we were getting lapped by Richt, Saban, Miles, Meyer etc....and we hired the coach at Richmond. fan....tastic.

Fulmer had an opportunity to take control of the East. he didn't. what happened to him as a result needed to happen.

the fault after that lies with any/all decision makers in the ensuing dumpster fires thereafter.
 
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jakez4ut said:
this. he had a real chance then to do what Saban has done since. evolve, and embrace the change, and find the best people to surround yourself with.

that was the big frustration...just kept doing the same things over and over, expecting it to just get better, when everything around was changing, for the better i might add, at a rapid pace.......we were getting lapped by Richt, Saban, Miles, Meyer etc....and we hired the coach at Richmond. fan....tastic.

Fulmer had an opportunity to take control of the East. he didn't. what happened to him as a result needed to happen.

the fault after that lies with any/all decision makers in the ensuing dumpster fires thereafter.
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If Doug Dickey stayed through 2008 I'd be very interested in seeing how different things would have worked out.
 
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Vanbo73 said:
Everyone likes to focus on Wyoming and a couple of dismal seasons. You completely skipped over
'01 - 11-2.
'03 - 10-3.
'04 - 10-3.
'07 - 10-4.
I'd give your left nut to see a 10 or 11 win season again!
Not to mention.. a couple of those seasons we were just a play away from competing for a BCS title.
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Good grief! Look at the years! His last five years were basically the same as Butch!
 
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ajvol01 said:
If Doug Dickey stayed through 2008 I'd be very interested in seeing how different things would have worked out.
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oh, i'll buy that for sure. the admin was a joke....and there was no check/balance at all.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
This is what got Fulmer fired.

Alabama @ Tennessee -- October 25, 2008 -- Rammer Jammer - YouTube

Apologies in advance.
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I was right there in the corner of the endzone when we recovered the muffed punt on the 5yd line and couldnt punch it in... the air went out of the stadium and i knew we had lost the game and coach. From that moment on was sickening to listen to the bammers. Sad thing is no one realized the dynasty that uprooted fulmer at the time...
 
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