Firing Philip Fulmer was the worst mistake a major program has ever made

#103
#103
ajvol01 said:
Compared to 2009-2017

2004 great
2005 average
2006 good
2007 great
2008 average
Click to expand...

2007 was great? LMFAO

We got beat by Florida 59-20. We got beat by a 6-6 Alabama team 41-17. Not very often does a team win an SEC division with 2 losses.

There is no University of Fulmer
 
#105
#105
It was time to move on from Fulmer.
That said, if I’d known that the Haslam family was so pathetic at anything not involving a gas station (which was raided by the Feds), I would have supported keeping Fulmer. Firing Fulmer was only a mistake when linked together with the moronic philosophy of letting someone continue to buy the right to make every critical decision.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#106
#106
114VOL said:
2007 was great? LMFAO

We got beat by Florida 59-20. We got beat by a 6-6 Alabama team 41-17. Not very often does a team win an SEC division with 2 losses.

There is no University of Fulmer
Click to expand...

There is no ability to hire coaches by our AD/boosters.

If you'd still opt to fire Fulmer after the last 9 seasons then you're a special kind of stupid.

If Jeremy Foley was our AD it was the right decision. With Mike Hamilton in charge I wouldn't let that guy fire Fulmer - ever.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#109
#109
Fulmer had the program exactly where Jones has it right now.

Holes in the roster, an inept offense, no bowl game, apathy setting in among even hardcore fans, routinely being humiliated on Saturdays, problems off the field, politicking for his job instead of owning up to his failure, too stubborn to do anything different in the face of that failure.

Jones, like Fulmer, checks every single box of a head coach that needs to be shown the door so spare us the revisionist BS on Fulmer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#110
#110
ajvol01 said:
There is no ability to hire coaches by our AD/boosters.

If you'd still opt to fire Fulmer after the last 9 seasons then you're a special kind of stupid.

If Jeremy Foley was our AD it was the right decision. With Mike Hamilton in charge I wouldn't let that guy fire Fulmer - ever.
Click to expand...

That’s where hindsight is 20/20. We didn’t know the clusterfu*k that awaited us. Kiffin was actually viewed as a splash hire by some (not me) at the time. It was what it was, what resulted was one of the greatest mismanagements in sports history, I’d say.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#111
#111
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
That’s where hindsight is 20/20. We didn’t know the clusterfu*k that awaited us. Kiffin was actually viewed as a splash hire by some (not me) at the time. It was what it was, what resulted was one of the greatest mismanagements in sports history, I’d say.
Click to expand...

That is exactly what I'm saying. Now that we know that about our AD, firing Fulmer was a mistake.
 
#114
#114
ajvol01 said:
That is exactly what I'm saying. Now that we know that about our AD, firing Fulmer was a mistake.
Click to expand...

I just don’t agree with that. It was time for a change.

If we’re gonna play revisionist, imagine if Patterson had been hired instead of Kiffin.
 
#117
#117
I disagree. While Fulmer was a great coach his last several years his talent dropped and development of players declined. Should he had another season maybe but Fulmer hit his peak and everything declined. Tennessee’s problem they wanted to go the cheap way. Don’t understand why other teams can make splash hires and we got multi billionaires that are too frugal and we make 80 million in revenue at Tennessee. I am done with donating until things changes... tired of paying premium prices for hot garbage. I will spend my time doing other things instead of investing my time and money on garbage. Tennessee football today is totally different when I was watching as a kid in late 80’s and 90’s when 8-4 was a rebuilding season and for Jones it is the ceiling.
 
Last edited:
#120
#120
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I just don’t agree with that. It was time for a change.

If we’re gonna play revisionist, imagine if Patterson had been hired instead of Kiffin.
Click to expand...

Or Brian Kelly, who I wanted at the time. That was the offseason before he won 12 games and got the ND job.
Either Patterson or Kelly would have been an excellent choice.
But, that stupid family and the revolving door of bad ADs consistently pass over the right guy for the wrong guy.
 
#121
#121
114VOL said:
Apparently no other big 5 school thought enough of him to hire him to coach their team. He publicly stated on several occasions that he still had "fire in his belly" and wanted to continue to coach. As it seems, he was just as delusional about himself as some of our fans are about him.

Great guy, good coach and won a ton of games here. That being said, he didn't have to build it up as a HC and when there was some drop-off, the lack of experience in doing a rebuild as a HC put us into a slide to mediocrity. Probably the reason he didn't get any major jobs when there openings the next couple of years
Click to expand...

I would take a couple of years of mediocrity under Fulmer than anything under lame kitten, DD, and bj.

No one is denying Fulmer was struggling but he DESERVED more time. He was a Tennessee guy that bled orange, not just because TN signed his paycheck.

I think Fulmer and big booster got into a pissing match had and the booster got him canned.

By the way, Fulmer continues to win....
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#122
#122
ajvol01 said:
SEC record
Click to expand...

I was never impressed with our vaunted "November runs" against SEC dreg. It was clear Fulmer had lost the ability to compete against better competition. We can't prognosticate where the program would be now, but the trend was downward. Doing the right thing and executing it badly, are not the same thing.
 
#124
#124
ukvols said:
Or Brian Kelly, who I wanted at the time. That was the offseason before he won 12 games and got the ND job.
Either Patterson or Kelly would have been an excellent choice.
But, that stupid family and the revolving door of bad ADs consistently pass over the right guy for the wrong guy.
Click to expand...

That's my point. We know the AD and Haslams are bad at hiring football coaches.

Knowing that fact I think Fulmer should have gotten at minimum 1 more season to fix the program.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#125
#125
NCFisher said:
I was never impressed with our vaunted "November runs" against SEC dreg. It was clear Fulmer had lost the ability to compete against better competition. We can't prognosticate where the program would be now, but the trend was downward. Doing the right thing and executing it badly, are not the same thing.
Click to expand...

Are you impressed with 23-47 SEC record since?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top