Fire phil fulmer........please!!! (Merged)

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mtman90 said:
Being a KY fan, and observing this I think you guys now understand how we felt about the on going Tubby Smith saga and why we wanted him gone. Lots of talent, administration and fan support, yet the same mediocre records each year. Yeah multiply 20 win seasons, but for the most part one and done in the big dance, not to the level we expected.

All I can say is hang in there and support your team, yet demand excellence from the staff and hold the administrations feet to the fire financially.
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MEh....I wouldnt quite put this into the same category as tubby yet. UK really had lost a lot of talent/recruiting power as some other programs had stepped up and they blamed the coach for thinking they should be higher than they actually were
 
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GERALD JONES 4 HEISMAN said:
Some of you all are pathetic....we are VOLNATION when we win or lose. Sure I was upset last night but I am not about to quit on this team yet, are you serious? We are 0-1 and lost to a fired up UCLA team that simply outcoached us. We have two weeks to tweak the offense and study film. We have UAB coming up..thats all we need to look at. Forget Florida, forget UGA and BAMA. They have their own worries coming up for them. We will be a good team this year. If you want to blame people for a poor performance think before you say anything if you could do any better....Lets get it up and get ready for UAB....c'mon yall
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I don't think many of us are giving up on the players, I'm sure not. But the continued inability of our coaching staff to fully utilize the talent at hand leaves us extremely frustrated. This isn't a one game deal... its been simmering for years and now its boiling over. And historically I've tried to give Phil the benefit of the doubt... but eventually you just don't get any more passes for underperforming.

The worst part, given that this is part of a prolonged trend... its hard for most of us to be optimistic that we will play at a championship level without a change in regime... and given the recent contract that will be a difficult financial pill to swallow.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I'm not usually one to point fingers but what I saw last night was a team of 2nd and 3rd stringers who were better coached, better pepared, and better motivated that beat a team who, at least from a talent perspective, should have put this one away in the first half!

There was absolutely no excuse for what happened on that field last night! I swear it was like watching a fine-tuned, high performance race car being driven by a 16 year old who just got his liscense, lose a race to a pinto being driven by Tony Stewart.

I'm not saying to torch the barn and kill rats just yet but yes, this one DOES fall on our coaching staff! The thing of it is, I don't believe the out coaching started at kick off last night. This started when Neuheisel and Chow stepped on UCLA campus.
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Dude you couldn't have said it any better.
 
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#80
UCLA head coach out coached our head coach. Their offensive coach out coached our defensive coach. Their defensive coach out coached our offensive coach. Their special team coach out did ours. I truly believe we were out coached from top to bottom. I think our players are more talented than their's so it has to be coaching. If you have a player not performing you change players. Our coaches are not performing sowe must change coaches { top to bottom }
 
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buckeyevol23 said:
The difference in talent between Tennessee and UCLA isn't even close. So just how badly was Phil outcoached last night? Considering many of the other teams on the schedule have equal or better talent, Fulmer's gonna have to outcoach atleast 4 coaches and just plain coach well the rest of the games. I can't see that happening.[/QUOTE

I do not think we were totally outcoached last night. However when you compare Norm Chow's resume to Dave Clawson's there is SOME difference. I mean goin for Richmond to Rose Bowl cant be that much of a difference, right? :question:
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#82
Chow--who is smart and experienced--pulled a rabbit out of his hat last night. Fulmer and Co. fell down the the rabbit hole, as usual. The problem with Fulmer is that he's been losing //at least// two thirds of the high-profile games that the Vols play--a pattern for years. Two high-profile west coast opening games the last two years, against decent but not great teams? Two losses? Last three SEC title games? Three losses--including last year against a banged up lsu squad missing its QB, best defensive lineman and starting rb. Florida--biggest sec game? Fulmer mostly loses it. Bowl games? More losses than wins lately, for sure. Once easy wins against the lesser teams in the conference are now always dogfights--UT can't put anybody away because they are so mistake prone.
 
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#83
Yet another depressing start to football season.... we need better leadership or we will slide too far into mediocrity to be and i quote 'fixable.'
 
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PEOPLE,

Please understand that Fulmer is a god here in Knox, the only the thought would arise is if he went a couple of seasons because now he has another excuse with the new O.C.! I agree we need to light a fire underneath him but the man has one of the winngest records. He just got out coached thats all.
 
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GoVolsGO1981 said:
PEOPLE,

Please understand that Fulmer is a god here in Knox, the only the thought would arise is if he went a couple of seasons because now he has another excuse with the new O.C.! I agree we need to light a fire underneath him but the man has one of the winngest records.
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many posters are in Knoxville and would definitely disagree

GoVolsGO1981 said:
He just got out coached thats all.
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how many times have we been forced to say that?
 
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GoVolsGO1981 said:
PEOPLE,

Please understand that Fulmer is a god here in Knox, the only the thought would arise is if he went a couple of seasons because now he has another excuse with the new O.C.! I agree we need to light a fire underneath him but the man has one of the winngest records. He just got out coached thats all.
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Sure he has one of the best winning records, but has nothing to show for it except a NC 10 years ago. It's annoying as hell to sit and watch Fulmer ride the coattails of something that happened a decade ago. It seems like that one championship is enough for him and he is just content with 8 wins a season. Tennessee doesn't need that. We need a HC that wants to be the best, not be good enough just to get by.
 
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GoVolsGO1981 said:
PEOPLE,

Please understand that Fulmer is a god here in Knox, the only the thought would arise is if he went a couple of seasons because now he has another excuse with the new O.C.! I agree we need to light a fire underneath him but the man has one of the winngest records. He just got out coached thats all.
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Well, duh! Add it to the rapidly growing list.

The wins came when we had vastly superior talent in a less competitive conference. Look at the past 7 years, as the SEC has become much more competitive. How has he fared over that period?

Wake up, just wake up! The guy is a lost cause. I have no doubt we'll win a big game this year, maybe 2... but I also have no doubt we'll lose the other 4 big games.
 
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GoVolsGO1981 said:
PEOPLE,

Please understand that Fulmer is a god here in Knox, the only the thought would arise is if he went a couple of seasons because now he has another excuse with the new O.C.! I agree we need to light a fire underneath him but the man has one of the winngest records. He just got out coached thats all.
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Fulmer God? lol! The only God, that he could claim to be would be of losing big games. The man gets outcoached every single game and the only reason he won in the late 90's was on talent alone. If your looking for Fulmer to win a game on coaching then I hate to say you will be dissappointed. He is the most overrated coach in America, and its a shame that he has our administration in his back pocket, they need to grow some balls and fire him.
 
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VolFan1978 said:
There is a very real possibility we could be 2-6 after the Bama game. Wins versus UAB and N. Illinois; losses versus UCLA, Auburn, Florida, UGA, Miss St, and Bama. That's got to get Phil fired. Or at least I can hope...
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kKinda lofty w/ the win over N. Ill. They will beat our arses!!!
 
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Mrs.BigOrangeNation said:
Sure he has one of the best winning records, but has nothing to show for it except a NC 10 years ago. It's annoying as hell to sit and watch Fulmer ride the coattails of something that happened a decade ago. It seems like that one championship is enough for him and he is just content with 8 wins a season. Tennessee doesn't need that. We need a HC that wants to be the best, not be good enough just to get by.
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Well said. Fulmer has had every chance to surround himself with coaches and coordinators that could bring something new to the table but he continues to find Fulmer clones. A good leader knows how to surround him or her self with people that make them look good. There HAD to be more qualified candidates than Clawson out there.
 
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Duckhook said:
It is more evident tonight than ever before that he will never get it back. We will start the season 1-3, and we'll be luck to be 2-4 going into the Bama game.....if you don't agree, you're fooling yourself, and continue to be one of the sheep causing this continuous slide toward the bottom. We are soooo mediocre right now!!! Florida and Auburn will wax us. UGA will whip us. And Bama.....BAMA??!! BAMA WILL ROLL OUR AZZES!! We will leave October 2-5!!!
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there is always next year to, we can start the losing all over again.
 
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I think y'all will be alright. I think y'all's coaching staff did a poor job of getting the team ready to play. It looked to me like y'all were playing like "Don't worry UCLA ain't nothing" a bit of over confidence maybe?

Just think at least y'all didn't look as bad as Clemson on Sat night.
 
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Unless an SEC championship is won, maybe this thread should be bumped every day until it happens. It's easy to be pissed now, but let us not allow a blowout of UAB or a closer-than-expected loss against Florida dull the awareness of what needs to be done for the long term success of the program.
 
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Svengali said:
Unless an SEC championship is won, maybe this thread should be bumped every day until it happens. It's easy to be pissed now, but let us not allow a blowout of UAB or a closer-than-expected loss against Florida dull the awareness of what needs to be done for the long term success of the program.
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:rock: nice
 
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to sum it up phil sucks and he can't coach so why the hell does he get paid more than pat summitt thats what i don't understand. She has 8 national titles and he can't even win an SEC championship. Something is seriously messed up
 
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cp3fan said:
to sum it up phil sucks and he can't coach so why the hell does he get paid more than pat summitt thats what i don't understand. She has 8 national titles and he can't even win an SEC championship. Something is seriously messed up
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Pat Summitt is already making more than any women's coach could possibly be worth.
 
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cp3fan said:
to sum it up phil sucks and he can't coach so why the hell does he get paid more than pat summitt thats what i don't understand. She has 8 national titles and he can't even win an SEC championship. Something is seriously messed up
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I agree we've not done our job lately, but just based on this argument, there is far more parity at the top of CFB than women's basketball. In women's bball, if you're a top-tier team, and can get into the tourney in one of the top 8 overall teams, you'll likely only play 3-4 difficult games.

If you're in a top football conference, like we are, you play 3-4 tossups just to get the opportunity to play one of those teams again, and the outside shot at a national title.
 
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I'm always amused at the people who defend Fulmer by saying how he always finishes stronger as the year goes on. Of course they fail to mention that his schedules always conclude with SC, KY & Vandy. If they would just reverse the schedule, then you would never be able to say that Fulmer's teams finish strong. UT is at a disadvantage from a coaching standpoint the minute the other team steps into the stadium. If the talent level is even, he's dead in the water. Sometimes, as UCLA showed last Monday night, the talent level doesn't have to be even. Sorry folks, but all Fulmer has to do is go 8 and 4 (or 5) every year and he gets an extension. What a great place to be a football coach.....lol
 
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I agree Fulmer should be fired, unless he beats Florida and wins the SEC this year.

Here is a different statistic that hasn't been mentioned in this thread that I researched myself:

Against Florida, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn since the year 2000, Fulmer's record is 7-17.

With pretty much equal talents as those schools, how pathetic is that record?
 
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