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Paul Finebaum laments that ‘college football as we know it is on its last breath’., As much as I detest the Bama troll he is right that college football as we know it is dying and will be fully dead by 2030 or earlier. And the reason will be the NIL that is completely out of control and simply isn’t sustainable. Pandora’s box is now open and there is no coming back from this. It saddens me that my beloved and favorite sport that I have loved to watch is being destroyed right before our eyes.
 
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It's a competition now that greed is in play. You will hear more complaining, and soon, when the richest teams suck up all the top players. Everyone will be clamoring for a draft system. This is pro ball and soon the schools will want a cash from the autonomous athletic systems. I am guessing they will franchise their brand and charge the buyer an annual fee, losing the liability and gaining a new cash resource. If not that then something esle, can't stay the same.
 
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The NCAA should have put a cap limit on NIL deals, period.

Of course, they couldn't be bothered to consider details for that while they were planning their next convention/rules meeting at the newest 5-star resort in the country.
 
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I heard the same thing when the facilities arms races began in earnest in the late 90s/early 2000s.
VOLtaism said:
It's a competition now that greed is in play. You will hear more complaining, and soon, when the richest teams suck up all the top players. Everyone will be clamoring for a draft system. This is pro ball and soon the schools will want a cash from the autonomous athletic systems. I am guessing they will franchise their brand and charge the buyer an annual fee, losing the liability and gaining a new cash resource. If not that then something esle, can't stay the same.
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Name me a time in the sport when money (because that's what you really mean by "greed") was not in play and the richest teams have not gotten all the top players.
 
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HollowaytoSeivers said:
The NCAA should have put a cap limit on NIL deals, period.

Of course, they couldn't be bothered to consider details for that while they were planning their next convention/rules meeting at the newest 5-star resort in the country.
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What ability could they possibly have to limit what someone can make and why would you want anyone's earnings potential to be artificially limited?
 
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VOLtaism said:
It's a competition now that greed is in play. You will hear more complaining, and soon, when the richest teams suck up all the top players. Everyone will be clamoring for a draft system. This is pro ball and soon the schools will want a cash from the autonomous athletic systems. I am guessing they will franchise their brand and charge the buyer an annual fee, losing the liability and gaining a new cash resource. If not that then something esle, can't stay the same.
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It’s gone beyond pro ball. At least in the pros there’s a cap and not 24/7 free agency. What’s going to stop the QB like a Niko who is getting $8 million a year and he throws for 40 TD and 2 Ints and then decides he’s going to test the open market bc he thinks he’s worth twice that ? He enters the portal and starts listening to aTm or Bama after every season. I’m not saying he will do that, but others will. I’m sure others already have. I’m not saying don’t let the kids get what their worth, but it needs to be a 2 way street. The system wasn’t right before when the power dynamic was basically 1 sided, and I feel the same way now with the current circumstances.
 
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05_never_again said:
I heard the same thing when the facilities arms races began in earnest in the late 90s/early 2000s.

Name me a time in the sport when money (because that's what you really mean by "greed") was not in play and the richest teams have not gotten all the top players.
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Exactly. There's always something that's making the game not as good as it once was.
 
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brentcontractor said:
If there was a cap on the amount, then all would be paying extra under the table. At least this way, it is all out in the open.
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That's another angle of this that is so funny to me. It is like people have forgotten that there still is an incentive to pay under the table even with NIL, and that still will go on.
 
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GAVol said:
Otherwise known as "the way things were for the past 50 years that was easy for fans to pretend didn't exist."
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Well Bammer has cheated for 50 years. Not us. We cheated once and the wrath of the NCAA is going to destroy us and we’ll get worse than SMU ever imagined.

I think that’s how that would be answered in the FF at least.
 
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It's not so much NIL, because that has been around under the table forever, it's the combination of NIL and unlimited (virtually) portal entry. The system will hit equilibrium, I just think many of us will be amazed at the levels it settles.
 
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The thing that college sports will always struggle with as long as it generates massive amounts of money is trying to force the rules that were developed 100 years ago when it was glorified intramurals. The rules against paying players are obviously tough in today's game, but even NIL is an imperfect solution. They never imagined college sports would be this popular or generate this amount of money. They never imagined well-heeled boosters getting in bidding wars over the best high school players to come and play this newfangled hand-egg game.

If you were creating a level of play below professional football today, it sure as hell would not be at the college level. There'd be some separate, stand-alone league that simply paid guys, like Minor League Baseball.
 
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VolInNW said:
It's not so much NIL, because that has been around under the table forever, it's the combination of NIL and unlimited (virtually) portal entry. The system will hit equilibrium, I just think many of us will be amazed at the levels it settles.
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Exactly. You can uncheck one, but not both. It would be like if Mahomes signs his $500 million deal and then next year he decides he’s worth $750, or he didn’t like how Andy Reid calls the game in the 4th quarter so he wants to go play for Matt Rhule (yeah right) but you get the idea. It’s insane . Pay them want they want, but the open portal makes it madness.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Exactly. You can uncheck one, but not both. It would be like if Mahomes signs his $500 million deal and then next year he decides he’s worth $750, or he didn’t like how Andy Reid calls the game in the 4th quarter so he wants to go play for Matt Rhule (yeah right) but you get the idea. It’s insane . Pay them want they want, but the open portal makes it madness.
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In time, I think the transfer portal will end up having a much bigger impact on college sports than NIL. Even if NIL didn't exist, you'd have guys transferring because they thought they could get a better under-the-table deal.

It's still just a one-time transfer though, correct? You can't do it again and again and again.
 
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VolInNW said:
It's not so much NIL, because that has been around under the table forever, it's the combination of NIL and unlimited (virtually) portal entry. The system will hit equilibrium, I just think many of us will be amazed at the levels it settles.
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I agree. The relaxed transfer rule has created a lot more turmoil than NIL has.
 
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05_never_again said:
In time, I think the transfer portal will end up having a much bigger impact on college sports than NIL. Even if NIL didn't exist, you'd have guys transferring because they thought they could get a better under-the-table deal.

It's still just a one-time transfer though, correct? You can't do it again and again and again.
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As far as I remember it’s a one time, no penalty transfer.
 
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GreveHaller said:
I’ll disagree. It was its own unique product. There was nothing else like it in college sports. It made it different from the pros.
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It still is its own unique product. A playoff, IMO, is better than the systems (BCS/Bowl Coalition/Bowl Alliance/Poll Era) that came before it.

The game has been in a constant state of change ever since they started playing. Players primarily playing "for the love of the game" or "because they love their school" ended, at the latest, in the 1970s. College football being minor league football is not a recent development.

To each his own, but I've never totally understood how the participants of the games making money detracts from a fan's enjoyment of the game.
 
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sunnyvol79 said:
Paul Finebaum laments that ‘college football as we know it is on its last breath’., As much as I detest the Bama troll he is right that college football as we know it is dying and will be fully dead by 2030 or earlier. And the reason will be the NIL that is completely out of control and simply isn’t sustainable. Pandora’s box is now open and there is no coming back from this. It saddens me that my beloved and favorite sport that I have loved to watch is being destroyed right before our eyes.
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I seldom say “ I told ya so.”,,,,,,but I’ve been saying this out loud since this “pay” for players idea was brought up a decade ago. I stand by my belief, college athletics will be no more in 2040……
 
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