Findings from Report on BPD

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Incidentally, wasn't Freddie Gray chased because he ran away from the cops and resisted, yet they really didn't have a charge on him to begin with?
 
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I have no doubt that black residents commit more crimes that white residents (per capita). This is no way justifies pulling someone over or stopping them on the street because of their skin color. What it amounts to is policing race and that is wrong. That type of enforcement creates a distrust among minority communities against the very people that are charged with keeping those communities safe.

My opinion is that this happens because police are given quotas that they must meet. This has officers driving around looking for someone to arrest rather than responding to incidents.

Another reason could be the "broken windows" theory of policing. This gained a lot of credence because it is the policy used in NYC during the Giuliani mayorship. But crime was already on a steady downward trend when Giuliani came into office and I am not convinced it was his leadership or the tactics of his police department that made the difference there. I think it was like what happened in Iraq during the surge. The Sunni Awakening was already happening when the surge went into effect. While the surge helped it seems the Sunni Awakening was the main factor in violence going down in Iraq at that time.
 
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jackaro said:
I have no doubt that black residents commit more crimes that white residents (per capita). This is no way justifies pulling someone over or stopping them on the street because of their skin color. What it amounts to is policing race and that is wrong. That type of enforcement creates a distrust among minority communities against the very people that are charged with keeping those communities safe.

My opinion is that this happens because police are given quotas that they must meet. This has officers driving around looking for someone to arrest rather than responding to incidents.

Another reason could be the "broken windows" theory of policing. This gained a lot of credence because it is the policy used in NYC during the Giuliani mayorship. But crime was already on a steady downward trend when Giuliani came into office and I am not convinced it was his leadership or the tactics of his police department that made the difference there. I think it was like what happened in Iraq during the surge. The Sunni Awakening was already happening when the surge went into effect. While the surge helped it seems the Sunni Awakening was the main factor in violence going down in Iraq at that time.
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Yeah........
 
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jackaro said:
Another reason could be the "broken windows" theory of policing. This gained a lot of credence because it is the policy used in NYC during the Giuliani mayorship. But crime was already on a steady downward trend when Giuliani came into office and I am not convinced it was his leadership or the tactics of his police department that made the difference there. e.
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There have been numerous studies done that show there was no correlation in Gulianis broken window technique and crime rates dropping in NY.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
It's cause darkies commit more crimes that they get stopped more. Or is it that they are caught more cause they are stopped more?

Anyhoo, they're only poor darkies so their constitutional rights don't matter. Each conviction represents one less vote for Hillary, right?
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Pathetic and sad. Your MO though.
 
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This all nothing new to anyone without their head up their butt. Its the same around the country. That is why incarceration rates for drugs are so skewed.
 
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Applying statistics ratably over a population is a fools errand. The murder rate in the US is about 1 in 32,000. Now does that mean Bill Gates and a soldier in the Rollin 60's have an equal chance to be homicide victims? Of course not. Income, location, habits, acquaintances, etc. play a role. Saying blacks get arrested at a higher rate than their demographics is silly. It implies someone living in the rich part of Baltimore has an equal random chance to commit a crime or interact with a cop as someone selling drugs in the projects. Cops concentrate on high crime areas. High crime areas in large urban centers are predominantly populated by minorities. It stands to reason that cops spending time in heavy minority neighborhoods will have more interactions and arrests of minorities in excess of the demographics. Is that racism or just common sense?
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Applying statistics ratably over a population is a fools errand. The murder rate in the US is about 1 in 32,000. Now does that mean Bill Gates and a soldier in the Rollin 60's have an equal chance to be homicide victims? Of course not. Income, location, habits, acquaintances, etc. play a role. Saying blacks get arrested at a higher rate than their demographics is silly. It implies someone living in the rich part of Baltimore has an equal random chance to commit a crime or interact with a cop as someone selling drugs in the projects. Cops concentrate on high crime areas. High crime areas in large urban centers are predominantly populated by minorities. It stands to reason that cops spending time in heavy minority neighborhoods will have more interactions and arrests of minorities in excess of the demographics. Is that racism or just common sense?
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Bro, the data covers this. They are talking about rates, not totals...1,000 blacks get pulled over vs 1,000 whites, and the blacks will get searched at a higher rate and they will be found to have less contraband. That is what the data is saying. It doesn't matter what the the demographic proportions are because they control for that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Bro, the data covers this. They are talking about rates, not totals...1,000 blacks get pulled over vs 1,000 whites, and the blacks will get searched at a higher rate and they will be found to have less contraband. That is what the data is saying. It doesn't matter what the the demographic proportions are because they control for that.
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Blacks are caught with less contraband because they can run faster than whites. While they are outrunning the fat cops loaded down with gear, they ditch their stuff along the way. It's pretty simple.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Blacks are caught with less contraband because they can run faster than whites. While they are outrunning the fat cops loaded down with gear, they ditch their stuff along the way. It's pretty simple.
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This place always provides the lulz man.
 
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Surprisingly, the DOJ report was a political statement by the Obama Regime, issued in order to help the fools running Baltimore to avoid total humiliation.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Bro, the data covers this. They are talking about rates, not totals...1,000 blacks get pulled over vs 1,000 whites, and the blacks will get searched at a higher rate and they will be found to have less contraband. That is what the data is saying. It doesn't matter what the the demographic proportions are because they control for that.
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Um bro that is exactly what I'm talking about. They are primarily being detained in high crime areas well known for trafficking. Of course they are going to be searched more. Of course they are searched at a higher rate than some soccer mom pulled over at a speed trap. No traffic stop is the same. I'm sure those cops are encountering frequent flyers on a daily basis. I don't see how they find anyone to do that job.
 
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If I had seen this report a couple of years ago I would have given it much more credibility. I don't have much faith in the DOJ to not have an agenda at this point, especially along racial issues.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Um bro that is exactly what I'm talking about. They are primarily being detained in high crime areas well known for trafficking. Of course they are going to be searched more. Of course they are searched at a higher rate than some soccer mom pulled over at a speed trap. No traffic stop is the same. I'm sure those cops are encountering frequent flyers on a daily basis. I don't see how they find anyone to do that job.
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But they find contraband at a lower rate....that refutes your point. Why are they searched more if the success rate is lower?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Bro, the data covers this. They are talking about rates, not totals...1,000 blacks get pulled over vs 1,000 whites, and the blacks will get searched at a higher rate and they will be found to have less contraband. That is what the data is saying. It doesn't matter what the the demographic proportions are because they control for that.
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Would be interesting to see this data parsed by male vs female. Would the interpretation be the data shows a clear pattern of sexism?
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Um bro that is exactly what I'm talking about. They are primarily being detained in high crime areas well known for trafficking. Of course they are going to be searched more. Of course they are searched at a higher rate than some soccer mom pulled over at a speed trap. No traffic stop is the same. I'm sure those cops are encountering frequent flyers on a daily basis. I don't see how they find anyone to do that job.
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I guess you have no issue with cops harassing people over engaging in commerce and trade of plants or plant byproducts?
 
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A lot of people making excuses in here for some obviously crazy stats.

300,000 stops out of 620,000 people is essentially stopping half the population in a year. 96% of those stops not ending in arrests is a blatantly obvious example of harassment.
 
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Not surprised. I've been to Baltimore, its a cesspool. That town has created its own mess. The police should just stop doing patrols that will fix everything right?...

Look what happened in Milwaukee last night. Cop kills guy who had a stolen gun and wouldn't drop it during a police chase; democrats go on anamilistic violent rampage and try to burn down town.
 
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Oh yeah just in case anyone had any doubts as to how this BPD culture developed.

Baltimore has had a democrat mayor for the last 49 years.

Pretty much every other Police Commissioner for the past 35 years has been black.

Kind of reminds me of Ouroboros..snake eating its own tail..
 

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The solution is riots and arson to everything especially pharmacies and groceries stores.. Then complain a few weeks later they we can get our medication filled an she can get fresh vegetables.... Brillant
 
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