Final INT TD return/possible ref blunder/rage party (merged)

#277
#277
Any ref will tell you that if they're not sure if a play is dead or not, they will let it run just to be safe because they can always review it and bring it back.

If the ref had done everything correctly to begin with, it would have been a touchdown anyways. The refs screwed up but the outcome was the same as if they had not screwed up at all.
 
#278
#278
Labotomi said:
It might not have made a difference in this game since everyone appeared to continue playing, but many times some players hear the whistle and stop. Who's to say the outcome of the play wouldn't have been different if another player hadn't stopped and made a tackle?
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I wasn't referring to this play in particular. The rule is there for instances where someone could make a tackle but don't because they heard a whistle.

Vercingetorix said:
The only way Gordon doesn't score on that play is if he falls down or drops the ball.
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But does that apply to every time a play is blown dead incorrectly?

You can't apply the rules based on a judgement call of whether he may or may not have been tackled.
 
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#279
#279
seems like we have had so many questionable calls go against us - including 1 or 2 in tonights game - that it seems reasonable we get the benefit of a play that was a TD anyway.
 
#280
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Vercingetorix said:
Whoever blew the whistle saw the play on the Jumbotron and knew he really fscked up and refused to admit it.

You have replay to get the call right. They got the call right. Finis.
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Yep! Take away all the scew ups by the officials at the end and we win! So they got the call right in the end.
 
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barney said:
Well after being in the league for two years, I think we can say that they have all gotten a healthy dose of the SEC.
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Obviously. So you are saying you approve of the current staff and trust them to carry us to where we want to be in the next 4 years? No changes whatsoever. this is it?
 
#283
#283
Stupified said:
Regardless, I liked our chances to score on offense.
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Basically, UT was gonna start in FG range anyway...UT most likely would have won anyway, but boy did that Ref really screw up. Fumble Recovery??? Was he even watching the same game?
 
#284
#284
vols-1 said:
The refs made a mistake but didn't want to admit it. He put his foot down, waved his arms, and blew the whistle.
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This is what I saw too. Big Big screw-up by the ref (back judge?). My question is why would the ref blow the play dead unless 1) he unambiguously sees the play dead or 2) it's clear the offense or the return team has no chance to advance the ball anymore.

In this case, 1) the ref didn't have a very look at whether the knee was down because a Vandy player blocked his view, and 2) Tennessee was clearly advancing the ball en route to score. Why would the ref blow the play dead though? Let them play and let the replay take care of it.
 
#285
#285
If this is the case, the officials screwed up and screw up in order to get the right call that matched reality.
 
#286
#286
VolSwaff said:
Regardless of the terminology, it's very rare that a FG is blocked and the kicker isn't ran into. If i'm alive for another 80 years i seriously doubt I'll see that same call made in a game.
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It's allowed to run into the kicker IF you are the one making the block. The player who ran into Palardy clearly had no contact with the ball. IF he had, it would have been a BS call, but since he didn't, it was a legitimate call.
 
#287
#287
The play wouldn't have been reviewed if that referee had not blown his whistle. The fact of the matter is, that as soon as that whistle was blown, someone was going to get screwed. Vanderbilt made the mistake, they were the more deserving candidate.
 
#291
#291
CAVPUT said:
Yep. Folks saying "we" cheated are just stupid. UT played defense and made a play. The refs blew it on many levels, but in the end, the review made the RIGHT call. And even if we don't get that call....and we should have...we're just a FG from winning anyway. Granted that's not a guarantee, but the call on the review was the right call. UT won....period.
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They blew the holding call as well. Blocked him and he fell down, hands inside and didn't grab the jersey. It was as bad or worse than calling a pick 6 a fumble. SEC has such horrible officials. I watch the game with a Georgia fan that refereed HS for 30 years, and his head was even about to explode!
 
#292
#292
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we win
 
#293
#293
TennGentry said:
The SEC, instead of concentrating on the fact "the play shouldn't have been reviewed", should address the fact that they had an incompetent official two yards away from the play, and he called a fumble on a clear interception and the player down when he clearly wasn't. Your officials suck! Review that.
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Amen :hi:
 
#294
#294
NEVolFan said:
A Vandy player was blocking the view of the Ref....if he blew the play dead, it was not because he had a good view of the play....he was guessing.

So....I would expect to see another rule change, compliments of da'Vols.
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They are supposed to be trained to do nothing and confer with the others and fix it in the replay booth in cases like that.
 
#296
#296
NEVolFan said:
A Vandy player was blocking the view of the Ref....if he blew the play dead, it was not because he had a good view of the play....he was guessing.

So....I would expect to see another rule change, compliments of da'Vols.
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Well don't call something you can't see!!! That discredits the official even more.
 
#298
#298
Carl Pickens said:
If the person that blocks the FG is the SAME person that runs into the kicker then there isn't a pemalty....other wise there is....
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Do you think that if it wasn't called that Dooley nor anyone else on the sidelines would have noticed or cared? The officials bailed us out.
 
#300
#300
We didn't almost lose again...we still had an overtime possession. If we don't score, it goes to a 2nd ot. That call didn't cost Vandy a win like their supporters are claiming. Eric Gordon made a play...how anyone can whine about the outcome is beyond me. I seen Vandy players chasing him the whole way.

The "yeah but the ref blew him down" crowd needs to give it up. If you're going to sit back and dispute what was clearly an INTO return for 6 based on "it shouldn't be reviewed", you're a bum...that's what losers do though, I suppose.
 
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