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Vol8188 said:
It's not difficult for anyone with an iq above room temperature to follow:

People have sex. Not all people can afford kids. We don't allow children to starve in this country, and that costs a lot of money. If we simply provide condoms, birth control, and abortions, we save a large sum of money.
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I'm missing the part where it's the individuals responsibility to avoid kids if they can't afford it.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
I'm missing the part where it's the individuals responsibility to avoid kids if they can't afford it.
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So you don't believe it is the individuals responsibility to avoid children? Because that's what your post that you claim to have reread states.
 
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Vol8188 said:
So you don't believe it is the individuals responsibility to avoid children? Because that's what your post that you claim to have reread states.
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He's missing your statement where individuals are responsible for their own actions. Your weak ass argument is people are gonna screw & have kids they can't afford so we must support them & offer birth control instead of making these stupid individuals face responsibility or consequences.
 
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govols/cc said:
He's missing your statement where individuals are responsible for their own actions. Your weak ass argument is people are gonna screw & have kids they can't afford so we must support them & offer birth control instead of making these stupid individuals face responsibility or consequences.
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Because we face the consequences. It's a simple argument. We don't want children to starve, because it's not their fault. So we support the child. It's far cheaper to offer free birth control.

We can take a dollar out of your check to raise a kid until he's 18, or a penny out of your check to provide the mother with free birth control.

If you think that's a weak argument, you're dumber than I always thought you were.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Because we face the consequences. It's a simple argument. We don't want children to starve, because it's not their fault. So we support the child. It's far cheaper to offer free birth control.

We can take a dollar out of your check to raise a kid until he's 18, or a penny out of your check to provide the mother with free birth control.

If you think that's a weak argument, you're dumber than I always thought you were.
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Let them deal with it. Whatever happens happens. I would rather my dollar & penny stay in my pocket.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Lol if a baby starves in the richest country in America so be it! At least you have a penny!
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That's right. If you wanna pay go right ahead though. Cut it all out & let the libs make their own donations to support the cause.
 
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govols/cc said:
That's right. If you wanna pay go right ahead though. Cut it all out & let the libs make their own donations to support the cause.
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And I'm the one who is illogical for wanting to help teens, college students, and young adults afford birth control. You're right, let's just watch people starve.

This is why I could never get on board the republican crazy train: spending money to feed starving children is a bad thing. But spending money to kill brown people on the complete opposite side of the planet is considered to be a great thing.

That's a ****ed up priority list.
 
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Vol8188 said:
And I'm the one who is illogical for wanting to help teens, college students, and young adults afford birth control. You're right, let's just watch people starve.

This is why I could never get on board the republican crazy train: spending money to feed starving children is a bad thing. But spending money to kill brown people on the complete opposite side of the planet is considered to be a great thing.

That's a ****ed up priority list.
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Oh well. Can't keep throwing money at idiocy but that's the liberal way. As for the brown people you could tell your liberal buddies to shut the damn door.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Because we face the consequences. It's a simple argument. We don't want children to starve, because it's not their fault. So we support the child. It's far cheaper to offer free birth control.

We can take a dollar out of your check to raise a kid until he's 18, or a penny out of your check to provide the mother with free birth control.

If you think that's a weak argument, you're dumber than I always thought you were.
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If this is so important it could easily be privately funded. Quit taking more of my paycheck to give to irresponsible people. It's not difficult to understand unless you start from a point where govt is the answer
 
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Vol8188 said:
And I'm the one who is illogical for wanting to help teens, college students, and young adults afford birth control. You're right, let's just watch people starve.

This is why I could never get on board the republican crazy train: spending money to feed starving children is a bad thing. But spending money to kill brown people on the complete opposite side of the planet is considered to be a great thing.

That's a ****ed up priority list.
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There's not many conservatives here, and even less libertarians who think that "blowing up brown people" is a great thing. I see the need of taking down an enemy before it presents itself at our doorstep, but to say blowing them up is a good thing isn't what I would say.

That being said, we shouldn't encourage behavior that is destructive and causes dependency. What you propose makes reckless and irresponsible behavior okay in the eyes of many and fuels the "gubmint will take care of me" crowd.

As I've said before I see the need for social safety nets and am not against them. I am against dependency on the government and against a system that doesn't lead people to getting off of it.
 
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Vol8188 said:
No. We should pay for their abortion. That way we don't have to give them money.
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Then would you agree to implanting under the skin birth control and requiring them to appear to have it replenished as necessary much like a parole visit? Require the ability to support a kid as a means to have it removed? I mean it would give them a responsibility free way to go F their brains out. For the love of god dude, you freaking teach HS kids. I can honestly tell you my kids went to one of the better schools in Knoxville and the stories they would come home with were absolutely appalling. This BS that you hear about "well you were a kid once" doesn't hold a candle to what HS kids do these days. The answer isn't free abortions, condoms, and pills. Put something under their freaking skin that can keep them from reproducing at all.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Don't we force pacifist to pay for defense and those opposed to capital punishment also? What's the difference?
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Pacifists are free to move to another country. Freedom isn't free unlike what barry wants everyone to believe.
 
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Gramps said:
It was a easier back then. Low paying wages have not kept up with inflation.
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See, that's where you are wrong. "Back then", low paying jobs weren't meant to support families. They were for kids out of school, people between jobs, and for those that just didn't give a shiite about getting ahead. Somewhere along the line, McDonalds became a career.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What's the alternative? We need employees in these careers. They don't make enough to support themselves. It's a basic problem with capitalism. What's the solution?
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THEY
AREN'T
CAREERS!

The problem is, we turned flipping burgers into careers. Never were meant to be careers. You can't run a country in the black when the service industry makes as much as the true professionals (i.e. those that require education and/or actual skill to participate in). Thank the unions for a lot of this.
 
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Vol8188 said:
People have sex! Even poor people have sex! Babies are a consequence of sex!

Not everyone is capable of having a "career". For many people grocery stores and restaurants are their career. And why will these jobs be gone?
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That is a sad reflection on your chosen career.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Lol if a baby starves in the richest country in America so be it! At least you have a penny!
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How much "extra" income tax have you paid in the last few years to back up your idea that those with $$ need to pay for those without $$ to party and screw without consequence?
 
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utvolpj said:
If this is so important it could easily be privately funded. Quit taking more of my paycheck to give to irresponsible people. It's not difficult to understand unless you start from a point where govt is the answer
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There is so much right with this post it is pathetic. The fact that liberals can't understand it is pathetic.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I do. There's people who would have a hard time paying for condoms and the last thing they need is children. That's why I 100% support tax payer dollars going to pay for condoms, birth control, and even abortions.

Because it is cost effective.
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Many of them never seem to have problems paying for beer and cigs though.. Funny how that works, and yes I am painting with a broad brush, but stereotypes are fact based for the most part.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
I'm missing the part where it's the individuals responsibility to avoid kids if they can't afford it.
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If a condom burst or the pill does not work , what would be the responsible thing for the parents to do at that time concerning the child?
 
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