Ferguson Riots

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lawgator1 said:
Because they believe the friend and the young woman who have claimed he was giving up. If there are dozens of witnesses they are going to be black. I'm not saying the protests will immediately stop. But I do think 12 + black people saying, no, Brown was charging the cop, would diminish their resolve quickly.
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I hope you're right, but I feel like you are dreaming.
 
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What a mess. Just saw Nelly walking through the crowd. Is he going to perform? Somebody stop this mess. I don't really know what is hoped to be gained by the "protests". The police will continue to shoot down perceived criminals that are raging & menacing through the streets.

Not being perceived as a criminal (like not strong arming blunt shells & shoving little Egyptian store clerks) will go a long way toward not getting blasted by the cops.

Maybe.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
A little low rent though, don't you think?
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Any worse than Al out there rousing up the crowds for his own agenda?

I think it's a peaceful and measured response to what's going on. Let's face it, with what we've seen so far there are far worse things the residents could be doing.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm sure there is a laundry list of items.

Point being that getting people registered to vote is far better than looting and rioting. (not that both can't happen at the same time)
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I'd prefer they loot their own neighborhood rather than learn they can make a whole lot more looting the system
 
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So this man robs a liquor store and then charges a police officer, yet it has somehow became a matter of race? Sounds like the race baiters in this country are getting desperate.
 
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govols/cc said:
Yea you chose to I chose not to. I realized the military was full of idiots & if in long enough those idiots acquire rank & power. I don't want my life in no way, shape, or form in any of those hands. You also have the political side where every officer is clawing to "get his" which in return screws all those under him. As for training I don't view sleep deprivation or exposure to extreme cold/heat as training. What does that prepare you for? Yea it's rough but that's it. It takes a little will power & mental fortitude. As for the physical side, it's nothing the average person can't do or could.
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Vol8188 said:
I agree with a lot of this. I won a ton of unit and group level airman of the year and quarter awards. I was great at my job, but I had zero respect for almost every member of my chain of command.

The majority of those who stayed in were those who couldn't make it in the real world. And no one wanted to give them EPR (enlisted performance review) ratings that they deserved.

Nearly every officer I've ever meet was a spineless tool. The only ones I liked were the bitter old lt col who knew they had made it as far as they were going to.

I almost joined the marines because I thought it would be better there. But when I was 18 I went to DEP meeting and meet ROTC kids for the first time. It was frightening. It was like their school didn't have a chess club, so they all joined ROTC.

I've never meet more wow playing rail thin cancer patient looking distance than I did in the military.
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Gotta love real men who say they "could have" or "almost did" but in the end, didn't even try and still pass judgement on those who not only tried, but succeeded.

You know Gents, there is a reason you don't get a lot of respect on this board. It starts with that attitude that you are better than everyone else...
 
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YorkVol said:
Gotta love real men who say they "could have" or "almost did" but in the end, didn't even try and still pass judgement on those who not only tried, but succeeded.

You know Gents, there is a reason you don't get a lot of respect on this board. It starts with that attitude that you are better than everyone else...
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I'm not better than everyone, but some. And there are great people in the military. But there are also a lot of people there who don't pull their weight and only stay in for the easy paycheck and there chain of command doesn't have the balls to write them the EPRs they deserve so that they can get kicked out. I worked with a guy who hasn't deployed since 2001 because of "medical issues". He should have been kicked out years ago.

and the ROTC kids, wow players, and rail thin distance runners are interesting people.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If there are statements by those witnesses I hope they release them soon. That would I think give everyone pause.
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There are too many media and others looking to make hay on these kinds of stories. Look at the others in the past. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good racist story. There is racism and it goes both ways, but all this jumping to conclusions before investigations by the media is pouring gas on the fires started by the Al Sharptons of the world. If the officer was in the wrong, then he should and will be punished. The worst part is that there is a family that lost a son and now they have all this being brought to their door as well. Pray for calm heads to prevail and also pray for the young mans parents who have lost the most.
 
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govols/cc said:
Yea you chose to I chose not to. I realized the military was full of idiots & if in long enough those idiots acquire rank & power. I don't want my life in no way, shape, or form in any of those hands. You also have the political side where every officer is clawing to "get his" which in return screws all those under him. As for training I don't view sleep deprivation or exposure to extreme cold/heat as training. What does that prepare you for? Yea it's rough but that's it. It takes a little will power & mental fortitude. As for the physical side, it's nothing the average person can't do or could.
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True. Aint sh!t to wading through dismembered human remains while ducking enemy fire then returning fire standing in a pool of gore. If you can do it in Battlefield 4 anyone can do it in real life..


And sleep deprivation? Pfft in the Air Force we trained like business travelers.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'm not better than everyone, but some. And there are great people in the military. But there are also a lot of people there who don't pull their weight and only stay in for the easy paycheck and there chain of command doesn't have the balls to write them the EPRs they deserve so that they can get kicked out. I worked with a guy who hasn't deployed since 2001 because of "medical issues". He should have been kicked out years ago.

and the ROTC kids, wow players, and rail thin distance runners are interesting people.
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I wrote a 3 EPR once..and got a call while TDY in Spain to change it to a 5 because it might hurt this morons career..I was like uh no.
 
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govols/cc said:
Yea you chose to I chose not to. I realized the military was full of idiots & if in long enough those idiots acquire rank & power. I don't want my life in no way, shape, or form in any of those hands. You also have the political side where every officer is clawing to "get his" which in return screws all those under him. As for training I don't view sleep deprivation or exposure to extreme cold/heat as training. What does that prepare you for? Yea it's rough but that's it. It takes a little will power & mental fortitude. As for the physical side, it's nothing the average person can't do or could.
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Sounds like your area of expertise may be here...
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Grand Vol said:
You okay? You've been unreasonably reasonable here lately in your posts.

Got a new girlfriend or something that's making you think straight?
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I'm agreeing with you. They're going to either say the cops didn't really interview these witnesses and are making it up or call the witnesses uncle Tom's and liars.
 
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I'm from a different era than many of you. The Ferguson stuff doesn't surprise me. In fact, it's pretty much what I expect under the circumstances. The only thing that surprises me, although not so much as it used to, is that so many white people seem caught off guard by it.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I wrote a 3 EPR once..and got a call while TDY in Spain to change it to a 5 because it might hurt this morons career..I was like uh no.
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Yeah it's crazy. Things like that are the reason I got out. I saw too many crappy people in my unit who didn't pull their weight, and no one was willing to do anything about it.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
I'm agreeing with you. They're going to either say the cops didn't really interview these witnesses and are making it up or call the witnesses uncle Tom's and liars.
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Actually, it's already begun.

Out of all the responses to information released by LE, was the one regarding the surveillance video of the suspect. Several protester's referring to it that the footage was all "photoshopped". :no:
 
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ETV said:
Actually, it's already begun.

Out of all the responses to information released by LE, was the one regarding the surveillance video of the suspect. Several protester's referring to it that the footage was all "photoshopped". :no:
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I remember that.

There was also someone I heard interviewed by vice at some point that said brown wasn't really robbing the store. That the owner wouldn't give him what he wanted and he got upset or something like that...like its okay, even if that were the case, to assault a man over some swisher sweets.
 
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