Ferguson Riots

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lawgator1 said:
For the millionth time, use of a firearm is always considered use of deadly force, and when an officer believes he needs to use deadly force, he fires to completely eliminate the threat.

If an officer is firing, he is shooting to kill. Not wing him. Ever.
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The young black man was unarmed & shooting him 8 times like he's a wild animal attacking you (a rabid bulldog or a kodiak bear) is going way way overboard on the officer's part or if he had some backup present.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Actually, the vast majority of the people here so far are not jumping to conclusions.
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It seems like LG's first comment in threads is often a response to what he assumes posters are saying...then he may or may not start reading the thread.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It seems like LG's first comment in threads is often a response to what he assumes posters are saying...then he may or may not start reading the thread.
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That would imply LG is jumping to conclusions.

He would NEVER do anything like that...
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
The young black man was unarmed & shooting him 8 times like he's a wild animal attacking you (a rabid bulldog or a kodiak bear) is going way way overboard on the officer's part or if he had some backup present.
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You obviously don't shoot much do you?
 
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n_huffhines said:
It seems like LG's first comment in threads is often a response to what he assumes posters are saying...then he may or may not start reading the thread.
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As I say, I was not referring really very much at all to posters here. There is some speculation in the thread, but not a ton. I was referring to the media and what I'm reading or hearing about reaction in the pro- and anti- law enforcement segments of our society.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
The young black man was unarmed & shooting him 8 times like he's a wild animal attacking you (a rabid bulldog or a kodiak bear) is going way way overboard on the officer's part or if he had some backup present.
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He might have been unarmed, and he might have been surrendering. In that case there may well be legitimate criticism of the officer.

But, the same people who are claiming that (i.e. his friend walking with him at the time) also seem to be the same people who omitted from their initial statements to the tv cameras anything at all about the teen pushing the officer or grabbing at his gun, to start with.
 
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Grand Vol said:
From most accounts, the initial attack took place inside the vehicle. How did the young man get in there to begin with?

Furthermore, several reports state the individual pushed the cop back into the cruiser as he was getting out and prohibited him from departing the vehicle.

More questions that need answers.
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Aren't most cops mic'ed up now with video in their cars? Original incident should be on record.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He might have been unarmed, and he might have been surrendering. In that case there may well be legitimate criticism of the officer.

But, the same people who are claiming that (i.e. his friend walking with him at the time) also seem to be the same people who omitted from their initial statements to the tv cameras anything at all about the teen pushing the officer or grabbing at his gun, to start with.
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Now that a shock..
 
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lawgator1 said:
He might have been unarmed, and he might have been surrendering. In that case there may well be legitimate criticism of the officer.

But, the same people who are claiming that (i.e. his friend walking with him at the time) also seem to be the same people who omitted from their initial statements to the tv cameras anything at all about the teen pushing the officer or grabbing at his gun, to start with.
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So I guess that justified shooting him 8 times to see if he's going to stop?
 
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hog88 said:
Aren't most cops mic'ed up now with video in their cars? Original incident should be on record.
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Local news was discussing that last night. Apparently they don't have cameras in the cruisers at that specific location.

Having said that to say this, I'd be willing to bet someone or something has it captured. Be it a traffic cam or bystander.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
The young black man was unarmed & shooting him 8 times like he's a wild animal attacking you (a rabid bulldog or a kodiak bear) is going way way overboard on the officer's part or if he had some backup present.
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I don't know. What's the difference in two times or eight times. The cop pulling the trigger once represents maximum escalation - you can't turn the dial past 10.

If cops asked me how many shots I fired at an intruder looking to harm myself or my family, i wouldn't be able to answer - I'd just point at the two empty magazines.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
So I guess that justified shooting him 8 times to see if he's going to stop?
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Once you pull the trigger, do so until the threat is no longer a threat.

Once you fire, it's basically if you're in for a penny you're in for a pound. Might as well have only one story told.
 
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Septic said:
If cops asked me how many shots I fired at an intruder looking to harm myself or my family, i wouldn't be able to answer - I'd just point at the two empty magazines.
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It might raise an eyebrow or two if they are Beta-C drums. :p
 
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What happens if I beat an intruder that's in my home w/a baseball bat to death? Will the cops ask me how many times I swung the bat that finally caved in his skull?
 
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Obsessed said:
Was he shot 8 times, or shot at 8 times?
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As Septic said does it really matter? Maybe Tim or Grand can shed light on this but aren't LEO trained to Aim Low from the feet, through center mass, and to the head until the clip is empty?
 
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