Feelings on 2 new additions to SEC

#51
#51
GreatWhiteNorth said:
Yeah, having the footprint in Texas is huge. The selection of Mizzou is a little more perplexing, though...unless I'm seriously underestimating the market. Which is completely possible.
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We certainly have some HSFB players here in MO. My only hope is that our SEC brethren don't take the time to make any trips here to steal our recruits. :p

There are some mixed emotions about the conference move, but most diehards are giddy about this. I already called the ticket office at Mizzou and told them I will be buying season tickets next year as soon as they are available. Maybe I'm a bad fan for not buying them sooner but I'm young and money has been a concern until now.

There is already talk of expanding the stadium. We are averaging between 61-64k per game the past couple years and that certainly will need to go up.

I realize many folks from current SEC schools are wary about this move but we are excited to be here and will do our best to force you to adjust to our Offense because our Defense is not SEC caliber right now.
 
#52
#52
Quantrill said:
We certainly have some HSFB players here in MO. My only hope is that our SEC brethren don't take the time to make any trips here to steal our recruits. :p

There are some mixed emotions about the conference move, but most diehards are giddy about this. I already called the ticket office at Mizzou and told them I will be buying season tickets next year as soon as they are available. Maybe I'm a bad fan for not buying them sooner but I'm young and money has been a concern until now.

There is already talk of expanding the stadium. We are averaging between 61-64k per game the past couple years and that certainly will need to go up.

I realize many folks from current SEC schools are wary about this move but we are excited to be here and will do our best to force you to adjust to our Offense because our Defense is not SEC caliber right now.
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#57
#57
I think we end up adding 2 of either VT, Clemson, Virginia, Maryland, or NC St in the next 3 years to get to 16.

Once the SEC gets another huge TV deal from these moves and the ACC doesn't get squat, those teams will be more open to making the shift.
 
#58
#58
TXA&M07 said:
No, I believe it was already announced that Florida will be our rival.
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One of our insiders here said that was a rumor and that the SEC wants to change as little as possible and everything should stay the same and you all will be with Missouri.
 
#61
#61
I'm just reporting what I read from Pat Dooley in the Gainsville Sun. May change. Who knows?
 
#62
#62
gnm53108 said:
No more fl/lsu?

Would that mean lsu gets mizzou?
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The rumor was FL/A&M, SC/LSU, Ark/Missouri.

Deerpark says otherwise and he has been spot on during the entire expansion talks...he is connected to the conference somehow.
 
#63
#63
TXA&M07 said:
No, I believe it was already announced that Florida will be our rival.
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Someone from around UF reported something (it was the Gainesville Sun I believe) along those lines, but that's been its only appearance


A Mizzou associate AD was quoted yesterday as saying that the tigers' cross-divisional rival was "more than likely to be Texas a&m"


So I think the reality is noone knows how itll be set up at this point (& even the sec is still figuring out its final setup in the area)
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#65
#65
Ericvol2096 said:
I think we end up adding 2 of either VT, Clemson, Virginia, Maryland, or NC St in the next 3 years to get to 16.

Once the SEC gets another huge TV deal from these moves and the ACC doesn't get squat, those teams will be more open to making the shift.
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Not really likely;

also the ACC is renegotiating their deal with ESPN (due to their additions) as well as overvaluing a bit how much our contract will increase relative to theirs...if the money is remotely close again, then ACC schools won't even consider a move barring some massive and sudden internal turmoil


(so unless like fsu and clemson get made because they dont like travelling to NY once or twice a year)


(and any future expansion is looking like it will be a while though - like a 5-8 years at the very least; the conference has been showing signs that while it took the initiative here to get to 14, it's not sure it wants to be the first one to expand to 16 - it may even be debating making such a move at all)
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#66
#66
Do they add any less than Arkansas and USC did back in 1992, other than the unknown we all had about the two divisions?
 
#67
#67
Mizzou is a stronger team than some think, I actually dont mind that one is terms of how good they are. But I dont care for teams so far outta the south, its all about money...gah.
 
#68
#68
Ericvol2096 said:
I think we end up adding 2 of either VT, Clemson, Virginia, Maryland, or NC St in the next 3 years to get to 16.

Once the SEC gets another huge TV deal from these moves and the ACC doesn't get squat, those teams will be more open to making the shift.
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I don't get it. So many fans of SEC schools criticize the ACC (and rightfully so, the ACC hasn't done their job in stepping up OOC in bowls), yet counting the schools above along with GT, FSU, and Clemson, there have been discussions of 8 schools possibly coming from the 12-team ACC. If the ACC sucks, why do you want their teams?

Personally, I don't think with the addition of Pitt and 'Cuse that any of the ACC teams are leaving. You can finally create good regional divisions (GT, Clemson, FSU, UVA, UNC, Duke, WF in the South. Syracuse, Pitt, MD, VT, BC, NCSU, Miami in the north(and don't try to convince me Miami should be in the south)). Plus the $10mil buyout. I think the ACC will be set for at least another 10 years, and the only reason I even say 10 is just that who knows what the world will look like in the future.

Plus I don't know why ytou think the ACC will get "squat" in the new TV deal. I remember how huge it was when the SEC signed a "$1 billion" media contract. Well, now every conference is over $1mil, right? ACC is still a basketball conference but their fans do watch football, that's where the money is at.
 
#69
#69
One item I do not understand. The SEC has said they will add 1 team to each division but the schedule stays at 8 conference games. Does that mean permanent rivalries (Alabama) will go away, or will the league just have 1 rotating team? If you assume the 1 rotating team is a home in home, lets use LSU as an example. We played LSU there last year, and here this year. Assuming we play all other SEC west teams home-and-home for 2 years, UT and LSU won't play again until 2020. Or would you rather skip the home and home, if you just rotate 1 team each year, we would play at LSU in 2017, and they would return the visit to Knoxville in 2023. Someone check my numbers, are these scenarios correct?

Why not add 1 more conference game? The Pac 12 plays 9, it seems like it would be better for the conference as a whole.
 
#70
#70
rocky top buzz said:
One item I do not understand. The SEC has said they will add 1 team to each division but the schedule stays at 8 conference games. Does that mean permanent rivalries (Alabama) will go away, or will the league just have 1 rotating team? If you assume the 1 rotating team is a home in home, lets use LSU as an example. We played LSU there last year, and here this year. Assuming we play all other SEC west teams home-and-home for 2 years, UT and LSU won't play again until 2020. Or would you rather skip the home and home, if you just rotate 1 team each year, we would play at LSU in 2017, and they would return the visit to Knoxville in 2023. Someone check my numbers, are these scenarios correct?

Why not add 1 more conference game? The Pac 12 plays 9, it seems like it would be better for the conference as a whole.
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Deerpark said the plan is to only have 8 games for two more seasons due to so many contracts having to be broken.

Then to go to 9 games to make scheduling easier to figure out.
 
#71
#71
rocky top buzz said:
I don't get it. So many fans of SEC schools criticize the ACC (and rightfully so, the ACC hasn't done their job in stepping up OOC in bowls), yet counting the schools above along with GT, FSU, and Clemson, there have been discussions of 8 schools possibly coming from the 12-team ACC. If the ACC sucks, why do you want their teams?

Personally, I don't think with the addition of Pitt and 'Cuse that any of the ACC teams are leaving. You can finally create good regional divisions (GT, Clemson, FSU, UVA, UNC, Duke, WF in the South. Syracuse, Pitt, MD, VT, BC, NCSU, Miami in the north(and don't try to convince me Miami should be in the south)). Plus the $10mil buyout. I think the ACC will be set for at least another 10 years, and the only reason I even say 10 is just that who knows what the world will look like in the future.

Plus I don't know why ytou think the ACC will get "squat" in the new TV deal. I remember how huge it was when the SEC signed a "$1 billion" media contract. Well, now every conference is over $1mil, right? ACC is still a basketball conference but their fans do watch football, that's where the money is at.
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They criticize the ACC because as a whole the top teams haven't been as good as the top teams in the SEC.

But there isn't anything wrong with adding a couple of the top teams of the ACC and letting them fit somewhere in the middle of the SEC.
 
#72
#72
rocky top buzz said:
One item I do not understand. The SEC has said they will add 1 team to each division but the schedule stays at 8 conference games. Does that mean permanent rivalries (Alabama) will go away, or will the league just have 1 rotating team? If you assume the 1 rotating team is a home in home, lets use LSU as an example. We played LSU there last year, and here this year. Assuming we play all other SEC west teams home-and-home for 2 years, UT and LSU won't play again until 2020. Or would you rather skip the home and home, if you just rotate 1 team each year, we would play at LSU in 2017, and they would return the visit to Knoxville in 2023. Someone check my numbers, are these scenarios correct?

Why not add 1 more conference game? The Pac 12 plays 9, it seems like it would be better for the conference as a whole.
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Highly doubt we move to 9 conference games. A SEC schedule is already brutal enough as it is. More likely is like you said, each East team has one West "rival" they play every year (Bama for us) and the rest rotate on/off the schedule every 2 years.....or they do away with the home & home concept, so that we play each West team once every 6 years. I dont have a preference really, however in my opinion, the SEC is brutal enough without moving to 9 conference games right now.
 
#73
#73
BuckeyeVols said:
Highly doubt we move to 9 conference games. A SEC schedule is already brutal enough as it is. More likely is like you said, each East team has one West "rival" they play every year (Bama for us) and the rest rotate on/off the schedule every 2 years.....or they do away with the home & home concept, so that we play each West team once every 6 years. I dont have a preference really, however in my opinion, the SEC is brutal enough without moving to 9 conference games right now.
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They'll have to in the next several years mainly because each of the other major conferences are planning on moving to 9 conference games (the last being the big 10 apparently having plans to adopt it by 2016 or 2017)


However, they'll most likely be staying at 8 conference games for the next 3 to 4 to even 5 years
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#74
#74
hopefully they bring in a ton of new money for the revenue split so teams don't get less.
 
#75
#75
I have to say I really like the additions. :) Especially Missouri.

As for cross division rivals I think we are going to get A&M. That way none of the current SEC rivalries have to change and we can keep a game in Texas (an area we recruit heavily). Plus while we haven't played A&M a ton we have played them more than any other SEC team.

I'm looking forward to the schedule being posted so I can figure out where to road trip to first. Out of Arkansas, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Tennessee how would you rate the experience? Which are the better road trips?
 
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