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#76
#76
SOS22 said:
What are your true expectations for the upcoming football season? After the sudden departure of LK, and the hiring of a new coach, what record will Tn. fans accept as a successful year? What will be acceptable for 2011?
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acceptable?

acceptable to me is the players playing with effort. The coaches coaching with effort and purpose. If that ends up with a 3 win season, so be it. It is acceptable if effort is shown.

Too early to define expectations and or success on the season. All the attrition and eligiblity concerns have not taken place wth Tennessee OR the teams that Tennessee plays. Over the summer, those determinations will occur.

Impossible to guess at those things right now.
 
#77
#77
LWSVOL said:
acceptable?

acceptable to me is the players playing with effort. The coaches coaching with effort and purpose. If that ends up with a 3 win season, so be it. It is acceptable if effort is shown.

Too early to define expectations and or success on the season. All the attrition and eligiblity concerns have not taken place wth Tennessee OR the teams that Tennessee plays. Over the summer, those determinations will occur.

Impossible to guess at those things right now.
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I agree LDubya. We can say we would like to see improvement from week to week, but that could be hard to judge given the brutality of the schedule.

Get the play calls in on time (this made last year more enjoyable for me), limit the turnovers and penalties, and improve on special teams. Given the addition of Palardy, I think those are all reasonable goals.
 
#78
#78
Right now, given the holes we have to fill, and an unbelievably hard schedule, I would think 5-7 is about the best we can hope for. In 2011 might be a bit better, but the schedule will be difficult again, so I would say 6-6 that year would be about the ceiling. That would get us in a bowl game, and hopefully we could build some momentum from there.
 
#79
#79
Nov. 13 Mississippi = L 21-38
(Ole Miss, using the Wildcat, does a carbon copy performance of last year, except without McCluster)

No way this happens. No way.
 
#82
#82
BloodRUNZOrange said:
hounestly i think we might do better than alot of people think.we have the same amount of weapons as we did last year plus darick rogers and justin hunter. i think our defense is going to be better than it was last year. monte was lost trying to defend the spread. our new d cordinator faced spread offenses every week in the wac and he beat a damn good oregon team with 2 star's. im tellin you. im not just saying this with orange colored glasses on. i think we can pull some upsets. dooley is smart and not blabbing about running a "pro-style" offense. he is going to run more of a chaney offense wich is going to keep sec defenses guessing. tennessee might be a sleeper guys. now for the second year in a row....it alll depends on QB play.
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I admire your optimism BUT Monte was not the problem against the 'spread'
The problem was defensive line depth . Having a 4-6 man D line rotation is not a thing to have in the SEC if you expect to win. 8-10 men are needed on the D Line.
Wilcox will inherit this issue . He will not be able to overcome this issue. Games will be lost in the second half ...especially late in the season .

Some "spread' info to dispell this general concept that Monte was inept against it . Again ...the defense will struggle late in games until the depth issue is resolved:

Auburn - 84 snaps for the Tigers but only 26 points scored. That is a testament to any defense. The problem was the offense could not keep the defense off the field and they survived drive after drive after drive ...

Florida - the Gators vaunted offense was held to one of its 2 lowest outputs of the season ...I think Bama pitched the other

Ohio - bad game for the Vols but many defensive starters took the game off or played sparringly. The defense gave up 1 touchdown

Ole Miss - 21-14 game at the half ...depth issue on the defensive line coupled with a 2nd half sputtering offense . Much of Ole Miss's O was not even a 'spread' ...it was run out of power formations.

Tech - 17 - 14 at the half . Tech came out and ran 8-10 times in a row from power sets ( think they knew about the depth issue ? ) after the half .


Guys Monte was fine against the spread . There is no silver bullett , no secret that Wilcox has to cure a Dline with no depth and not give up big after the half ...especiaaly late in the season. One of the biggest things they could do ? The offense must keep the defense off the field and they must score more than 14 in the first half and take their opponents out of their running game...or expect more of the same
 
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#83
#83
I just remember teams like bama and UK ripped off 5-6 yd runs a pop in the Wildcat offense; I was astonished they didn't do it more.
 
#84
#84
ReeceBobby said:
I just remember teams like bama and UK ripped off 5-6 yd runs a pop in the Wildcat offense; I was astonished they didn't do it more.
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Almost every team gives up yardage to the wildcat ...it is a zone read option with running backs . Teams devote very little practice time to stopping it . If they just kept running it , it would be easier to adjust to .

The Miami Dolphins have even had success in the NFL with it
 
#85
#85
VolFan4life24 said:
your oppinion officially became meaningless when you predicted us to lose to UK... come are u crazy i think you have the UK and ALA teams mixed up......
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Uk looks better at qb than we do and I'd trade dline and maybe opines with them. What? Do you think all those allsec players from our past willbe on the field? Do you not get that we have three or four dtackles on our whole roster? Not good ones, just a total of three or four? We don't win on the field because of the power t on the helmet, we have won because we had better talent up and down the roster year after year. Now, we are truly horrible on the lines. In three recruiting classes we got a total of one dtackle and that one is a juco that hasn't academically qualified yet. If we lose the war inthe trenches..... I'm sure you know the old cliche that got to be a cliche because it's true.
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#86
#86
Volunteeer said:
Uk looks better at qb than we do and I'd trade dline and maybe opines with them. What? Do you think all those allsec players from our past willbe on the field? Do you not get that we have three or four dtackles on our whole roster? Not good ones, just a total of three or four? We don't win on the field because of the power t on the helmet, we have won because we had better talent up and down the roster year after year. Now, we are truly horrible on the lines. In three recruiting classes we got a total of one dtackle and that one is a juco that hasn't academically qualified yet. If we lose the war inthe trenches..... I'm sure you know the old cliche that got to be a cliche because it's true.
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Volunteer ...I think you are dead on with the D line issue ...not to even mention the replacement of virtually the entire O line . You seem to appreciate the depth issue on the Dline that I have been harping on. You take 4 outstanding Dlinemen and put them through every snap of every game ...and near the end of the season they will not look outstanding anymore. They will look tired and injured

Well we have about 4 ...and no one has proved to be outstanding at this point . So many on this board feel as though Wilcox has a magic formula to overcome this ...but I am afraid he is going to be subject to the same depth issue the two DC's that came before him had to cope with. I hope our fanbase will cut him enough slack until enough depth is built to see what he can do ...on paper he seems like a solid hire ...but the depth issue is going to make his defenses flimsy beyond the half.
 
#87
#87
The last time that I heard rumblings of 'rebuilding', and predictions of sub-par records...we took the Nat'l Title. I realize the odds of us winning it all are slim to none, but it is enough to give me hope for a 8 to 9 win year....If karma exists; USC will be on probation, and Dooley will lead us to more W's than last year
 
#89
#89
It's like some people think we want them to lose when we point to reality. All the guys who scream about Monte "sucking" because he can't stop the "wildcat" or a "spread" are going to be the same ones talking about wilcox the same way. Reality is montes scheme wasn't perfect, but it was damn close in many games and wilcox can be just as good a coach, and end up with a d ranked worse against the run.

It bothers me when ignorance leads fans to place blame in the wrong location, because they aren't willing to watch the games with an eye for tactics and assignments and listen to others who know something about these areas if they aren't willing to learn.

majic73 said:
Volunteer ...I think you are dead on with the D line issue ...not to even mention the replacement of virtually the entire O line . You seem to appreciate the depth issue on the Dline that I have been harping on. You take 4 outstanding Dlinemen and put them through every snap of every game ...and near the end of the season they will not look outstanding anymore. They will look tired and injured

Well we have about 4 ...and no one has proved to be outstanding at this point . So many on this board feel as though Wilcox has a magic formula to overcome this ...but I am afraid he is going to be subject to the same depth issue the two DC's that came before him had to cope with. I hope our fanbase will cut him enough slack until enough depth is built to see what he can do ...on paper he seems like a solid hire ...but the depth issue is going to make his defenses flimsy beyond the half.
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