Failed to address two of Jones glaring weaknesses

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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.
 
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1) It's impossible to be worse than Butch
2) It's impossible to be worse than Butch
 
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Oh please! Here we go again for the 50th time.

Hey! He can always make a chart for those decisions.
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

Been a part of 3 Nattys
Is respected
Can coach Defense
Just a few positive thinks he's done Butch hasn't
 
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1) It's impossible to be worse than Butch
2) It's impossible to be worse than Butch

Not true but whatever.

Truth is these are two areas where we don't know how Pruitt will perform. Time will tell.

Edited to add:

I'm not going to act like he is the second coming of Saban and I'm not going to act like he will not be successful.
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

In both of your examples you correctly conclude that we don't know. Which also means that we don't know that those weaknesses weren't addressed. For all we know those are strengths of his. It's also possible that Phil knows what he's doing.
 
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Is Vol Nation having a contest for:
1. The most negative comment anyone can make about the new coach
2. The dumbest comment anyone can make about the new coach?

If so, Freak should do a better job of advertising this so everyone could make something up to enter for prizes.
 
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Why did you take the OP's comment as negative? He just stated facts.

None of us know how well (or not) Pruitt will do. We will not know that until this time next year.

Everyone got overly excited when Shoop was hired as DC a couple of years ago. How did that work out?
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

I do not put a lot of value in the difference between a 4 and a 5 star prospect. Perhaps between a 1 or 2 and 3 and up.

There has been a lot of noise on this hire concerning our talent level. One thing Jones was good at was recruiting and the incoming coach has a roster of star players on both sides of the ball. Also do not forget that Tennessee was crazy depleted due to injuries this year. I consider that partially a failure on the outgoing coaching staff. Sure some injuries are not related to conditioning and technique, but most were potentially not.

Some will immediately throw out the "but a program like Alabama filled with 5 star recruits does not have this problem". I say hogwash. They lost their last game partially due to depleted roster. With a month to recuperate I believe they will win the NC and the great new is our coach will be a part of that.

Having a HC and recruiter that has a recent history of NC's will be huge on the recruiting task. Remember this prediction, in the next three weeks we will land recommits and some huge new commits.
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

What you're basically saying is that Pruitt is an unknown as a head coach and that's true. That doesn't mean our problems haven't been addressed. We don't know. Having said that, the odds are in favor of Pruitt at least being better than Butch Jones when it comes to in-game adjustments and player development. I also hope to see less attrition on the roster. Pruitt is a risk hire. If Fulmer wanted to play it safe, he would have hired Miles. I'm glad he didn't.
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

At least on point 2, let's hope that he has enough common sense to look at every member of the team and play the best players regardless of star rating.
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

but we know it's a failure, right now?
 
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no one can put anything on here that hasn't been addressed by this site concerning the last coaching staff...the HC in particular...bank on it...:)
 
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Five star players require just as much development as any other. Being a high school superstar and playing NCAA Division I in the SEC are two very different things.
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in gainesville. The last guy flunked the test twice.
2) developing talent- bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like saban right now. The vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.



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stoops was very good, but when he made adjustments he was not great at doing them on the fly. And we would tend to help lose some games with adjustments to late. Pruitt was , in my mind, much better at making d adjustments on the fly. Fixing things within a couple series as opposed to a half. Stoops sometimes wouldn’t change what was obviously not working in some games till hallway in the 3rd quarter. Pruitt was fast. And because of that i can say. I am not 100% sure we win the title with stops over pruitt. I know the stealing signs crap. But the adjustments made were able to stop a 21-3 game from getting way out of control with some stops and a turnover
but all season in slow starts pruitt fixed it fast. Stoops never fixed it that fast. And with us going down as fast as we did in the ncg. We fixed it fast and ended up winning. We may very very well have won no matter what. But i am honestly not sure 100% we win against auburn had stoops still been the dc. Might have taken to long to fix things
with all that said. I am thrilled we won a title. I cant hate the guy with that fact. But i really think giving someone such a chance and even changing your contract to help your coaches and coordinators, when a team is willing to match and you just got a ring is shady. Think you owe the school a little something. But then again maybe the fact he was only there for a year and though he would move soon was him actually trying to help a bi by getting out early and not putting a 3-4 year system in that would need to be changed if he were to leave then. His scheme was tough. But someone what vanilla. Blitz from the dbs more. Slightly more aggressive. But nothing revolutionary. Jimbo can find someone in the similar mold who will be sure to want to stick around and stay on the team and help 2.0 biggest part that sucks is recruiting. Nothing major. But we are prob out of it for humphrey now, still have a top 6 ish class,but sucks as we may have a couple guys swing away and will make it another year pushed back on 2015 recruits and we were making inroads in with and will hope that 2016 finally has us some relationships for a top class again
not gonna hate. Not thrilled. But we are national champs and he is replaceable
overall. We won the title. He didnt screw us as far as taking the job right before bowl game or right before nsd and the season. Good luck to him. But i really think he is going t be a great coach and more disapointed we wont have him aen anythiung. Deoending on our hire. I ay also be thrilled.
 
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Why did you take the OP's comment as negative? He just stated facts.

None of us know how well (or not) Pruitt will do. We will not know that until this time next year.

Everyone got overly excited when Shoop was hired as DC a couple of years ago. How did that work out?

Perhaps a better choice of thread title wording if negativity wasn't intended?
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

This guy looks like a quality lifetime coach, I am sure he can learn on the fly. Really late game management isn 't rocket science.

Everything I have read indicates he is a great developer of talent.

I guess it all comes down to if you are a glass half full kind of person or a glass half empty.
 
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1) game management- they hired someone who’s never been a head coach. We have no clue how he’ll react in the last minute in Gainesville. The last guy flunked the test TWICE.
So your logical progression is... the last guy failed... the new guy has never been a HC to prove his game mgt skills to you... therefore the weakness has not been addressed?

Jones was not an intelligent coach compared to his peers. One writer even mocked him in that way toward the end. I don't know how Pruitt will be at game mgt... but hopefully UT has hired a smarter guy this time round.

2) developing talent- Bama has a line of 5 star guys. If one fails, another steps up. Tennessee isn’t at that level yet. We don’t know how he’ll deal with low 4 and 3 star guys. Don’t kid yourself thinking he’ll recruit like Saban right now. The Vol brand is tarnished some. It will take some winning early to get it back.

So... UT's brand is tarnished according to you, we don't know how his development of "low 4 and 3 star guys" will be, Bama has talent... therefore he cannot develop players?
 
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