Expect 16 team playoff as soon as possible.

#51
#51
It's crazy to me to see people complaining about 16 teams and "well might as well just make it 64" and "what is the point of the regular season?"

Even at 16 teams College Football would still have the most exclusive post season in sports. MLBs 12 teams in the playoffs is 40% of MLB. 44% of the NFL makes the playoffs. Over half (53%) of NBA teams make the playoffs. Half (50%) of the NHL makes the playoffs. If we look at college every other college post season allows more teams in: 68 for Basketball, 64 for Baseball, 48 for Soccer, and on and on. If you are complaining about college football at 16 teams you then have to complain about every other sports postseason on planet Earth.

CFB Playoffs absolutely will go to 16 in next 5 years.

As I mentioned in another thread, this is what I think should happen to fix the Playoff and make bowls meaningful:

Reduce the bowls down to 30. That is still plenty of bowls and takes us back to about what we had in 2006. Just keep the 30 best and most prestigious bowls.

All bowl games will be part of 2 16 team playoff tournaments.

To get into the postseason you must have an end season ranking by the playoff committee within the top 32 (after Championship games are played). There will be no conference champion auto bids, and no confusing finagling to force a G5 into the post season. G5s will have to earn their spot in the top 32 just like everyone else (which will happen every year – so they will still be a part of the post season and have a shot at a NC). Simply the best and most deserving top 32 teams (ranked 1-32) will play in a post / bowl season.

The top 16 teams (1-16) will play for a National Championship. This will still be the most exclusive postseason in sports. Even in MLB’s 12 team postseason that is still 40% of it’s teams making the playoffs. So, this, in no way makes the regular season “meaningless”.

Teams 17-32 will play in an NIT-like postseason tournament that will be a lot more fun for programs, players, and fans than what we have now. This also keeps many of the decent bowls alive while now making them mean much more than they did.
 
#52
#52
Go to 16 teams. Take the top 2 teams from each power 4 conference, fill the remaining 8 with the remaining 8 highest ranked teams based on BCS.
 
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#54
The false belief that there is 16 teams in college football that has a chance to win a championship in any year is an unrealistic expectation. College football is not like basketball and should not be treated the same. There should only be four teams and it should be based upon final rankings after the conference championship games. The addition of teams is not for better competition but solely for money. It is a money grab for the NCAA, conferences and gambling sites. Four is enough, add more conference games for better sampling enabling better rankings at the end. The last issue is this should only be for teams in a conference ND and not some independent team cherry picking their schedule.
 
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wmcovol said:
Nothing will drive it faster than :

1) ND getting left out
2) Big 10 only getting 3 teams
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The only thing that seems to matter is who the conferences get on the playoffs committee. Big 10 screwed the SEC last season. This season, SEC is doing the screwing.
 
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wmcovol said:
Nothing will drive it faster than :

1) ND getting left out
2) Big 10 only getting 3 teams
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ND got a guaranteed spot in the top 12 or if they move to 14 starting next year, they would have to get them to sign a new contract to go above 14, something tells me ND intentionally be difficult about it
 
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wmcovol said:
Nothing will drive it faster than :

1) ND getting left out
2) Big 10 only getting 3 teams
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It doesn't matter how you configure the playoffs or how many teams you let in...the problem still is what it has always been: the lack of accountability. Teams are getting into the playoffs and were getting into major bowl games that haven't played a schedule that proved they deserve to be there. James Madison should be a non- starter with that ridiculous schedule. No way Tulane should be in with that schedule unless they beat Ole miss and still iffy. Even ND scheduled their 2 toughest opponents at the beginning of the year so they could try and make the committee forget about the early losses. Everybody likes a Cinderella story, but they have to earn it. Indiana is the Cinderella and they earned it. JM and Oregon will be over in the first quarter and is a slap in the face to fans and players. Until the these committees stand up and say universally that if you want a shot, you have to prove you deserve it with your schedule, things won't change. If they do, regular season and bowl games will be a lot more exciting.
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
Just stop the G5 madness, they can do their own thing.
Make the Natty SEC,B1G,G12,ACC
Each conference plays 8 conference game, 3 OOC games(for the SEC 1 B1G,1 B12,1 ACC) and 1 G5/Cupcake that has to be Game 1
Top 3 from each conference if you want 12, top 4 if you want 16.

Take the CFP committee out of the loop as far as picking and their eye test.
There can never be a true strength of schedule anyway without cross conference play and rankings are subject to the whims of people picking.

ETA: ND will have to join a conference or the can play with the G5
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No G5s if they aren't good enough to have a chance in the tournament, why should they sacrifice themselves and take the beatings to make everyone else look good. The G5 guaranteed spot gives them a nominal chance even we all acknowledge they don't really have a chance. If you want to deny them the opportunity to play themselves in fine but why should they take a beating from us and have injuries that messes up their chance at the hypothetical G5 title. Play your money games against the FCS.
 
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Volhoops said:
The false belief that there is 16 teams in college football that has a chance to win a championship in any year is an unrealistic expectation. College football is not like basketball and should not be treated the same. There should only be four teams and it should be based upon final rankings after the conference championship games. The addition of teams is not for better competition but solely for money. It is a money grab for the NCAA, conferences and gambling sites. Four is enough, add more conference games for better sampling enabling better rankings at the end. The last issue is this should only be for teams in a conference ND and not some independent team cherry picking their schedule.
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It is not a false belief - if you go to 16 you will pick up other schools within the P4 conferences that could absolutely beat teams in the top 12.

Case in point teams that would be added this year if it was the top 16 would be Notre Dame, Texas, Vandy, BYU. From 2024 the added teams would have been: Alabama, Miami, Ole Miss and South Carolina.

Those are all very competitive teams.

You had 7 SEC teams that lost 2 or less games in the conference. In the B1G you had 5 schools that lost 2 or less in their conference, in the ACC there were 6 schools that lost 2 or less in their conference, Big 12 there were 3 that lost 2 or less in their conference. That is 21 schools that were in the race for their conference championship and the automatic bids.

It is the schools in the G5 that you are probably focused on - but going to 16 or even 25 only adds 1 more of those bringing the total to 3. There would still be 22 competitive teams in the mix.
 
#61
#61
Yep, and the greed is within the P4 group mainly. FCS/IAA has been doing a playoff since 1978. Started with 4 teams, now up to 24. Never heard any admins crying about playoffs interfering with class. Teams were just happy to play when given the opportunity. P4 has the greed and the whiners.
 
#62
#62
College football in 2025 is NOT like college football back in the day. There is a level of parity that exists and with NIL and the transfer portal and the large conferences it will continue making this 12 team playoff obsolete.
 
#63
#63
Some clown on CBS today said 16 teams with all conference champs getting in and then the rest at large. That would mean Kennesaw St. and Western Michigan would get auto bids.
 
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farmdogvol said:
Some clown on CBS today said 16 teams with all conference champs getting in and then the rest at large. That would mean Kennesaw St. and Western Michigan would get auto bids.
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That's pretty funny. I watched ETSU beat Kennesaw St in OT in a playoff game just 4 years ago.

....Say what you will but it was electric in little William B Greene stadium here in JC that night.
 
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NEWDAYVOL said:
It's crazy to me to see people complaining about 16 teams and "well might as well just make it 64" and "what is the point of the regular season?"

Even at 16 teams College Football would still have the most exclusive post season in sports. MLBs 12 teams in the playoffs is 40% of MLB. 44% of the NFL makes the playoffs. Over half (53%) of NBA teams make the playoffs. Half (50%) of the NHL makes the playoffs. If we look at college every other college post season allows more teams in: 68 for Basketball, 64 for Baseball, 48 for Soccer, and on and on. If you are complaining about college football at 16 teams you then have to complain about every other sports postseason on planet Earth.

CFB Playoffs absolutely will go to 16 in next 5 years.

As I mentioned in another thread, this is what I think should happen to fix the Playoff and make bowls meaningful:

Reduce the bowls down to 30. That is still plenty of bowls and takes us back to about what we had in 2006. Just keep the 30 best and most prestigious bowls.

All bowl games will be part of 2 16 team playoff tournaments.

To get into the postseason you must have an end season ranking by the playoff committee within the top 32 (after Championship games are played). There will be no conference champion auto bids, and no confusing finagling to force a G5 into the post season. G5s will have to earn their spot in the top 32 just like everyone else (which will happen every year – so they will still be a part of the post season and have a shot at a NC). Simply the best and most deserving top 32 teams (ranked 1-32) will play in a post / bowl season.

The top 16 teams (1-16) will play for a National Championship. This will still be the most exclusive postseason in sports. Even in MLB’s 12 team postseason that is still 40% of it’s teams making the playoffs. So, this, in no way makes the regular season “meaningless”.

Teams 17-32 will play in an NIT-like postseason tournament that will be a lot more fun for programs, players, and fans than what we have now. This also keeps many of the decent bowls alive while now making them mean much more than they did.
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Just one hitch. Do we think the players on teams 17 to 32 will stop opting out or hold off their transfer decision simply for “fun” if they aren’t getting extra pay? I sincerely doubt it. Don’t know if anyone has noticed or not but the players nowadays aren’t playing for the glory of the good ole state university nor are they winning one for the Gipper. Add a little compensation in the equation and you might have something.
 
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wmcovol said:
Nothing will drive it faster than :

1) ND getting left out
2) Big 10 only getting 3 teams
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Heard that one of the sports talking heads was saying G5 teams shouldn’t take away spots from P4 teams, because G5 usually get blown out in first game. What if ND and say Vandy or someone had a play in game like Bball tournament for the 11th spot and if they feel they must have a G5, let them, like Tulane and JMU, have a play in for 12th spot?
 
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KB vol said:
Heard that one of the sports talking heads was saying G5 teams shouldn’t take away spots from P4 teams, because G5 usually get blown out in first game. What if ND and say Vandy or someone had a play in game like Bball tournament for the 11th spot and if they feel they must have a G5, let them, like Tulane and JMU, have a play in for 12th spot?
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Considering the P4 conferences agreed to the rules, I have no sympathy.
 
#69
#69
There aren’t more than four teams who can actually win the NC- there never are.
Going past 8 teams is silly. 16 is absurd.
 
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