Execution and Coaching - First half versus Second

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Ad nauseam we've discussed poor/no coaching/game plan adjustments in the second half.

Does anyone disagree with:

1. Our first half game plan looks good.

2. Our first half execution (O and D) looks good.

3. It all falls apart in the second half.

I think there is more going on than meets the eye.
 
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Butch said exactly what is going on in his Presser after the OK game. He said that he doesn't do second half adjustments and that he develops a game plan and sticks to it.
 
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Thats bc good coaches make second half adjustments. Butch isnt a good coach therefore we make zero adjustments. Then the outcome is a second half meltdown.
 
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so we need to score 35 or more in the first half to have any chance to win the game.
 
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BP4Prez said:
Did he seriously say this?
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Taken directly from the transcript


"In terms of the second half, in particularly the fourth quarter, it wasn't anything magical that they did. Everyone wants to talk about great halftime adjustments. You have a scheme, and you stick to your scheme."
 
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I Love Lamp said:
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"In terms of the second half, in particularly the fourth quarter, it wasn't anything magical that they did. Everyone wants to talk about great halftime adjustments. You have a scheme, and you stick to your scheme."
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Yep this quote explains it all. He wants to stick to his scheme. Afterall its worked so well thus far.
 
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I Love Lamp said:
Taken directly from the transcript


"In terms of the second half, in particularly the fourth quarter, it wasn't anything magical that they did. Everyone wants to talk about great halftime adjustments. You have a scheme, and you stick to your scheme."
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That's a difficult concept to grasp. I do not know of any team (NFL, NBA, NCAA, pop-warner) that doesn't make adjustments of some kind. A) continue doing what works and B) adjust those things that AREN'T working (O and D) and make the other guy make a move. You don't keep doing what you're doing if it doesn't get positive results. Case in point: OU brought the all out blitz package in the second half. TN blinked. No game plan or no adjustments. OU in OT found something that TN was or wasn't doing and capitalized. I was always told when training for war that the best laid plan goes out the window after the first round is sent down-range.
 
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He isn't giving his all for TN.

This isn't middle school or pee wee. Other teams are going to change it up and we dont. Giving other team an advantage.

Recipe of a baaaad gameday coach folks
 
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Just don't even care any more. I've never felt this way even with Dooley.
 
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We seem to have a good plan to start. But after the other team has seen the same play from the same formation every time they start to figure it out. Debord says he uses the plays that work best for us early when the chips are on the line in the 4th. They've seen it before and stuff it in the backfield and we lose. If he were smart, he would run a play that he set up with those earlier.

Same seems true with the defense too. Our coaching staffs are getting outsmarted and out coached
 
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I Love Lamp said:
Taken directly from the transcript


"In terms of the second half, in particularly the fourth quarter, it wasn't anything magical that they did. Everyone wants to talk about great halftime adjustments. You have a scheme, and you stick to your scheme."
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This quote spells the death of Tennessee football. That has to be one of the most ignorant things a coach can say.
 
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Throwing out the BGSU and WCU games, this is the common thing that had me thinking while watching the game Sat. night.

First Half Points Second Half Points
VS OU 17 VS OU 0
VS FL 17 VS FL 10
VS AR 17 VS AR 3

Against weaker opponents, TN has done well. Against stiffer competition, not so much.
If pattern of no or little halftime adjustments continue against the bulk of TN's schedule coming up, I see little hope for any wins.
 
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nash101 said:
We seem to have a good plan to start. But after the other team has seen the same play from the same formation every time they start to figure it out. Debord says he uses the plays that work best for us early when the chips are on the line in the 4th. They've seen it before and stuff it in the backfield and we lose. If he were smart, he would run a play that he set up with those earlier.

Same seems true with the defense too. Our coaching staffs are getting outsmarted and out coached
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Debord was 12-36 in 3 seasons as HC at central michigan. Butch Jones was his OC during this time. Butch rises up to HC at TN and hired his "mentor", clearly an offensive genius, to be his OC.

It should not be surprising to anyone we are getting outcoached each week. History does not lie.
 
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What happens is that we can't change up game plans because there isn't any ammo near the end. For most teams, the second half is when the passing game opens up. However, the WR leaders are injured and Dobbs doesn't seem to be leading too well so...yeah.
 
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I Love Lamp said:
Butch said exactly what is going on in his Presser after the OK game. He said that he doesn't do second half adjustments and that he develops a game plan and sticks to it.
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i just watched the Butch Jones interview from oklahoma. i didn't see anything anywhere near what your saying of him not making 2nd half adjustments.
 
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SleepingGiantVols said:
i just watched the Butch Jones interview from oklahoma. i didn't see anything anywhere near what your saying of him not making 2nd half adjustments.
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Figures as soon as i posted this i heard him say stick to game plan. i jumped the gun i'm sorry i didn't make a very good 2nd half adjustment on that one
 
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TacomaJPP said:
Ad nauseam we've discussed poor/no coaching/game plan adjustments in the second half.

Does anyone disagree with:

1. Our first half game plan looks good.

2. Our first half execution (O and D) looks good.

3. It all falls apart in the second half.

I think there is more going on than meets the eye.
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Yes, and the reason is simple. Defenses see what we are doing, and make adjustments to stop the run. We make adjustments to throw more, but we cannot execute a downfield passing game with any consistency.

It is for many reasons IMO. The QB is wildly inconsistent and fails to accurately deliver the ball a high percentage of the time. The wide receivers have the dropsies when he does. And the OL, which actually gave the QB decent time against Arky, is prone to allowing pressure.

I felt like DeBord called a good enough game against Arky, we just could not execute the pass plays. Now, that doesn't give the coaches a free pass in any way, because they have to coach these players up so they can execute those plays.

On D, our youth at DT and MLB is an issue.
 
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I Love Lamp said:
Taken directly from the transcript


"In terms of the second half, in particularly the fourth quarter, it wasn't anything magical that they did. Everyone wants to talk about great halftime adjustments. You have a scheme, and you stick to your scheme."
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No. In the Arkansas game we were getting to the edge in our running game against Arkansas. Fat boy coach B told the sideline reporter as much and that they had to adjust for that. They did we rushed for 4 yards in the second half. A good coach should realize the opponent will adjust and take that away, Jones must think the guys he is coaching against are idiots. This isn't Central Michigan the SEC has real coaches.
 
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"Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the Mouth" Mike Tyson. Maybe they need to start making adjustments at halftime!
 
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I Love Lamp said:
Taken directly from the transcript


"In terms of the second half, in particularly the fourth quarter, it wasn't anything magical that they did. Everyone wants to talk about great halftime adjustments. You have a scheme, and you stick to your scheme."
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Well now we know. Guys is a moron.
 
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