Even More Obamacare Follies

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#2,751
lawgator1 said:
What about the people who work for employers with less than 50 employees who do not voluntarily offer health insurance?

Let's be honest here, the vast, vast majority of employers with more than 50 employees do offer insurance. But with less than 50 employees, small business often do not offer such a benefit.

My sister works for an insurance agent. Auto, home, that kind of thing. Less than 50 employees in two offices. The agent does not offer health insurance.

So my sister, who incidentally has had some health issues, is signed up for coverage through the ACA. I believe its in the $500 a month region for the gold plan, but she is planning next go 'round to sign up for silver so as to knock it down to about $300 a month.

This is Florida, one of the states run by a GOP governor who rejected a state exchange just to be obstinate. There was absolutely no reason not to offer an exchange. It makes perfect sense to do so. But no, that would be in some way capitulating.

So if the program is undone, my sister will not be able to buy insurance basically through any mechanism. There are literally millions of people like her. Hard working, professional. But uninsurable except through a mechanism like the ACA.
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Find another job or pay out of pocket. What's so hard about that? Your problems shouldn't create problems for me.
 
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#2,752
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lawgator1 said:
So if the program is undone, my sister will not be able to buy insurance basically through any mechanism. There are literally millions of people like her. Hard working, professional. But uninsurable except through a mechanism like the ACA.
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BS on a number of levels. It does not take a ACA like mechanism to solve this problem and ACA creates a whole new set of problems
 
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#2,753
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lawgator1 said:
Would literally overnight render millions of people uninsured, and unable to find alternatives. Those of us who are insured directly through the marketplace can expect double digit increases in our own premiums, to help providers offset the cost of uninsured care.
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tumscalcium said:
Those of us? You're insured directly through the marketplace? I thought you had amazing insurance that wasn't going to be bothered by Obamacare?
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DC_Vol said:
:popcorn:
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:zeitung_lesen: BUMP
 
#2,754
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volinbham said:
Not that we didn't know this already but in case anyone doubted it

ObamaCare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law - Fox Nation

Take 53 seconds and watch the video.
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So this guy just admitted his involvement in act of treason perpetrated by the US congress........Welcome to the travesty of how government really works. This isn’t just “obamacare”, this is every action taken. Why do you think the Constitution was written the way that it was? Why did the founders go into such detail about limiting the powers of government, and then on top of that enact the Bill of Rights that terminated in the extreme views of Amendments 9 and 10 stating EXPLICITLY that all other powers would be retained by the individual and the member states. They understood the history of government throughout recorded history. They understood that this is authoritarianism, how it works, how it develops, and how it persists. We have a very good constitution, if we would only follow it.

This man should be IMMEDIATELY arrested!
 
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myrobbins7 said:
So this guy just admitted his involvement in act of treason perpetrated by the US congress........Welcome to the travesty of how government really works. This isn’t just “obamacare”, this is every action taken. Why do you think the Constitution was written the way that it was? Why did the founders go into such detail about limiting the powers of government, and then on top of that enact the Bill of Rights that terminated in the extreme views of Amendments 9 and 10 stating EXPLICITLY that all other powers would be retained by the individual and the member states. They understood the history of government throughout recorded history. They understood that this is authoritarianism, how it works, how it develops, and how it persists. We have a very good constitution, if we would only follow it.

This man should be IMMEDIATELY arrested!
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Instead he'll be defended by all those Obama drones.

It really is brazen the disregard he has for citizens.
 
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govols/cc said:
Find another job or pay out of pocket. What's so hard about that? Your problems shouldn't create problems for me.
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It. Doesn't. Create. Problems. For. You.

It saves you money on your own premiums over time, it broadens the base of payors, and it gives you an option to find new affordable insurance should you ever need it.

Try, just a little, not to be so short sighted. I know its hard. But think.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It. Doesn't. Create. Problems. For. You.

It saves you money on your own premiums over time, it broadens the base of payors, and it gives you an option to find new affordable insurance should you ever need it.

Try, just a little, not to be so short sighted. I know its hard. But think.
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You do know that most Americans want Obolacare to be disposed of
 
#2,760
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lawgator1 said:
It. Doesn't. Create. Problems. For. You.

It saves you money on your own premiums over time, it broadens the base of payors, and it gives you an option to find new affordable insurance should you ever need it.

Try, just a little, not to be so short sighted. I know its hard. But think.
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Bolded is not true now and there is no guarantee that it will be true.

Also, if he is under 40 then it artificially INFLATES his premiums to subsidize older citizens.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
What good is a low premium if the deductible is five to ten grand?
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Oh this one's easy. Just like the proposal to "forgive" student loans, the next socialist president will declare amnesty/forgiveness for those that owe those high deductibles. viola!
 
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govols/cc said:
How many don't accept Obozocare? If LaQuanda needs to have an ingrown toenail removed she probably won't have issues. If she finds out she has lymphoma I doubt she finds top care will be as easy to get especially since Doctors know she won't be paying the 10k+ deductible.
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And hospitals are going to have to build entire new bureaucracies to chase down the deadbeats that don't pay those deductibles. They can hire Mike Tyson to break your leg for non payment, then fix it.. then break it for non payment... and fix it.... a brilliant cycle of indentured servitude.

Obola is a ****ing genius.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It. Doesn't. Create. Problems. For. You.

It saves you money on your own premiums over time, it broadens the base of payors, and it gives you an option to find new affordable insurance should you ever need it.

Try, just a little, not to be so short sighted. I know its hard. But think.
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My. Premiums. Have. Never. Decreased
 
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lawgator1 said:
It. Doesn't. Create. Problems. For. You.

It saves you money on your own premiums over time, it broadens the base of payors, and it gives you an option to find new affordable insurance should you ever need it.

Try, just a little, not to be so short sighted. I know its hard. But think.
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Are you pulling these comments directly off your copy of the talking points?
 
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lawgator1 said:
It. Doesn't. Create. Problems. For. You.

It saves you money on your own premiums over time, it broadens the base of payors, and it gives you an option to find new affordable insurance should you ever need it.

Try, just a little, not to be so short sighted. I know its hard. But think.
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Broadens the base of payors? As someone else said earlier, LaQuonda ain't gonna pay anything, because she doesn't pay any taxes, therefore there is no money to recoup.

If they allow insurers to compete across state lines, you might have a point, but for some stupid reason, they didn't. I think it has to do with the socialist wet dream of a single payer system, and this will give them the fastest way to achieve that goal.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What about the people who work for employers with less than 50 employees who do not voluntarily offer health insurance?

Let's be honest here, the vast, vast majority of employers with more than 50 employees do offer insurance. But with less than 50 employees, small business often do not offer such a benefit.

My sister works for an insurance agent. Auto, home, that kind of thing. Less than 50 employees in two offices. The agent does not offer health insurance.

So my sister, who incidentally has had some health issues, is signed up for coverage through the ACA. I
believe its in the $500 a month region for the gold plan,
but she is planning next go 'round to sign up for silver so
as to knock it down to about $300

This is Florida, one of the states run by a GOP governor who rejected a state exchange just to be obstinate. There was absolutely no reason not to offer an exchange. It makes perfect sense to do so. But no, that would be in some way capitulating.

So if the program is undone, my sister will not be able to
buy insurance basically through any mechanism. There
are literally millions of people like her. Hard working,
professional. But uninsurable except through a
mechanism like the ACA.
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LG, you're obviously an educated person and I'm sure you realize facts do not mean much to the majority of southern right wingers. They're mostly taking what Rish, Oreilly and Palin have to say as the gospel. Is Trump still looking for Obama's birth certificate?
 
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