Even More Obamacare Follies

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lawgator1 said:
Would literally overnight render millions of people uninsured, and unable to find alternatives. Those of us who are insured directly through the marketplace can expect double digit increases in our own premiums, to help providers offset the cost of uninsured care.
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Oh well. Shiz happens when bad legislation is rammed through without thought or compromise.
 
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hog88 said:
Oh well. Shiz happens when bad legislation is rammed through without thought or compromise.
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It was an oversight in the language. The part of the bill that set up the subsidies referenced the federal exchange, not the states. It wasn't on purpose, just a glitch. But far right loons riding that error for all its worth.
 
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#2,631
#2,631
lawgator1 said:
It was an oversight in the language. The part of the bill that set up the subsidies referenced the federal exchange, not the states. It wasn't on purpose, just a glitch. But far right loons riding that error for all its worth.
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In law, language is everything, you should know this counselor. Maybe Nacy should have read it first?
 
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Obsessed said:
Why?

The same ones that were uninsured before will go back to being uninsured.
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A number of reasons. First and foremost you will lose the options provided by the ACA. Second, you will lose the competition they created versus private sector. Remember, the mandated benefits and minimum requirements will all still be in place. Third, the increases we've seen in the past were dumbed down by the spreading of the cost across more payers. If that ends, there's plenty to make up. Fourth, if the components aren't severed, gone are the Medicaid expansions, resulting in more uninsured and higher private sector costs.

I am sure we will see some studies come out about the consequences. The objectively serious ones will freak you out.
 
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lawgator1 said:
A number of reasons. First and foremost you will lose the options provided by the ACA. Second, you will lose the competition they created versus private sector. Remember, the mandated benefits and minimum requirements will all still be in place. Third, the increases we've seen in the past were dumbed down by the spreading of the cost across more payers. If that ends, there's plenty to make up. Fourth, if the components aren't severed, gone are the Medicaid expansions, resulting in more uninsured and higher private sector costs.

I am sure we will see some studies come out about the consequences. The objectively serious ones will freak you out.
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Sounds like you're talking about the biased type of study put out by governments and their lackies to defend a program that they love.
 
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#2,636
lawgator1 said:
A number of reasons. First and foremost you will lose the options provided by the ACA. Second, you will lose the competition they created versus private sector. Remember, the mandated benefits and minimum requirements will all still be in place. Third, the increases we've seen in the past were dumbed down by the spreading of the cost across more payers. If that ends, there's plenty to make up. Fourth, if the components aren't severed, gone are the Medicaid expansions, resulting in more uninsured and higher private sector costs.

I am sure we will see some studies come out about the consequences. The objectively serious ones will freak you out.
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So the Democrats passed the ACA without reading the bill or laying out the specifics. Without any reasonable certainty it would work (and it hasn't met the objectives laid out when it pushed on the American people). That will cause health care costs to skyrocket (ahem, again) if it fails?

Am I understanding this correctly?
 
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Wow...Its been a hell of a week!!! TN beats Cocks in a wild finish, GOP in a wave election, and now Supremes are going to hear some of this ACA crap again. I'm gonna have a drink.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Would literally overnight render millions of people uninsured, and unable to find alternatives. Those of us who are insured directly through the marketplace can expect double digit increases in our own premiums, to help providers offset the cost of uninsured care.
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That's already happening..
 
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lawgator1 said:
A number of reasons. First and foremost you will lose the options provided by the ACA. Second, you will lose the competition they created versus private sector. Remember, the mandated benefits and minimum requirements will all still be in place. Third, the increases we've seen in the past were dumbed down by the spreading of the cost across more payers. If that ends, there's plenty to make up. Fourth, if the components aren't severed, gone are the Medicaid expansions, resulting in more uninsured and higher private sector costs.

I am sure we will see some studies come out about the consequences. The objectively serious ones will freak you out.
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Actually it will increase competition since those insurers who initially opted out of the govt created marketplace will reenter. Getting rid of this crap law will help more people than it will hurt
 
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#2,640
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lawgator1 said:
Would literally overnight render millions of people uninsured, and unable to find alternatives. Those of us who are insured directly through the marketplace can expect double digit increases in our own premiums, to help providers offset the cost of uninsured care.
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It would eliminate their subsidies not their insurance. Would give the Rs a great opportunity to step in with a new deal
 
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lawgator1 said:
Would literally overnight render millions of people uninsured, and unable to find alternatives. Those of us who are insured directly through the marketplace can expect double digit increases in our own premiums, to help providers offset the cost of uninsured care.
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Those of us? You're insured directly through the marketplace? I thought you had amazing insurance that wasn't going to be bothered by Obamacare?
 
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hog88 said:
In law, language is everything, you should know this counselor. Maybe Nacy should have read it first?
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Meh. She wouldn't comprehend the title page.

Irony. She was all on aboard to pass a bill that she admitted to never reading. Fast forward a few months and her ole buddy Harry wouldn't let bills hit the floor to ever take a vote on.
 
#2,650
#2,650
lawgator1 said:
It was an oversight in the language. The part of the bill that set up the subsidies referenced the federal exchange, not the states. It wasn't on purpose, just a glitch. But far right loons riding that error for all its worth.
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Yeah, not too hard to have a few oversights in legislation that isn't even read before it's passed. You must be so proud.
 
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