Euthanasia?

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Mercy actually compromised on something?

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I can't say **** but this stupid **** can be on here? Literally as dumb as it gets.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Good luck getting consent from a fetus.

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You know im not really on either side of the abortion issue since I'm a dude and its just one of the unearned privileges I have along with a slew of others that I don't have to worry about happening to me. Heck, I support aborting from fetus to I dunno, 30 years old?

But when you actually see how they do an abortion is pretty horrific.

Consent is ambiguous though. Im sure Bill Cosby asked those ladies for make sex time but since they were passed out they couldnt say yes..but they couldnt say no either.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
You know im not really on either side of the abortion issue since I'm a dude and its just one of the unearned privileges I have along with a slew of others that I don't have to worry about happening to me. Heck, I support aborting from fetus to I dunno, 30 years old?

But when you actually see how they do an abortion is pretty horrific.

Consent is ambiguous though. Im sure Bill Cosby asked those ladies for make sex time but since they were passed out they couldnt say yes..but they couldnt say no either.
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therealUT said:
While I think it is wrong on all levels, I see no reason why someone who wants to put an end to their own life cannot seek the help of others to do so. I also see no reason why that person should not be paid for such service.
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bamacheats said:
Interestingly, if I go to a farm, and poison a field right after seeding, destroying the crop, I'm penalized as if it had 100% production success, which no farm has, and not the first sprout has seen light. Rightfully so, I might add, because I destroyed something that was potentially and probably going to live and produce.

The bolded part is referred to as 'philosophy hypocrisy.'
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This is a poor analogy, since a farmer who poisons his own field right after seeding faces no penalty whatsoever. Thus, while this analogy may be ripe for an argument regarding whether or not higher penalties ought to be in place for an individual who destroys a fetus against the will of the carrier, the analogy does nothing in an abortion debate.
 
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therealUT said:
This is a poor analogy, since a farmer who poisons his own field right after seeding faces no penalty whatsoever. Thus, while this analogy may be ripe for an argument regarding whether or not higher penalties ought to be in place for an individual who destroys a fetus against the will of the carrier, the analogy does nothing in an abortion debate.
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A sound minded person who is debilitating pain and agony with no hope of recovery should have every right to go out on their terms. My Grandmother suffered from MS from 1974 till 2002. The last couple years she literally begged my father, uncles, aunts, and her nurses to OD her. She couldn't herself because she lost all use of her hands. She spent years and years suffering and begging for death.

To prolong the suffering of human being against their will is evil.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Over simplified stupidity is not seeing how imposing(not having or sharing) your views on others is antithetical to the idea that personal freedom should be respected.

And just like you don't want sharia law, I don't want sharia law or law that's determined by christian beliefs. Laws should be secular by nature.
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A mother is free to abort a child fetus, just as a mother is free to shoot her 6 yr old. Doesn't mean repercussions shouldn't follow.

If I had any doubt life started at conception, my reaction to hearing the Dr tell my wife and I that we lost a 5 week old fetus that we weren't planning for, it was confirmed. People who endorse/accept abortion have the compassion of a fence post. It's one of the most despicable acts there is in my book.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
If I had any doubt life started at conception, my reaction to hearing the Dr tell my wife and I that we lost a 5 week old fetus that we weren't planning for, it was confirmed. People who endorse/accept abortion have the compassion of a fence post. It's one of the most despicable acts there is in my book.
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That's rich coming from someone who subscribes to a faith that demands the punishment of eternal damnation and ultimate suffering for being born and raised in a non christian culture. This contradiction being lost on you isn't terribly surprising.
 
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MercyPercy said:
That's rich coming from someone who subscribes to a faith that demands the punishment of eternal damnation and ultimate suffering for being born and raised in a non christian culture. This contradiction being lost on you isn't terribly surprising.
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And vice versa. However, your comprehension skills are severely lacking as numerous people, myself included, believe there's an exception for those who have no opportunity. But you gloss over that cause it doesn't fit your agenda.

Maybe you'll have a pregnant wife who loses a child one day then the act of abortion won't be lost on you. Then again, you may not care.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
A mother is free to abort a child fetus, just as a mother is free to shoot her 6 yr old. Doesn't mean repercussions shouldn't follow.

If I had any doubt life started at conception, my reaction to hearing the Dr tell my wife and I that we lost a 5 week old fetus that we weren't planning for, it was confirmed. People who endorse/accept abortion have the compassion of a fence post. It's one of the most despicable acts there is in my book.
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Not convincing. Expecting and planning for a certain future only to have those dreams shattered suddenly and unexpectedly is traumatic. That does not mean life begins at conception though.
 
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therealUT said:
Already have experienced a miscarriage with my spouse, and still don't believe life begins at conception.

As for my comment, someone who believes abortion is murder stated they wished I was aborted. That's, for them, stating they wish I was murdered. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. So, to that person, I'll easily say I'm glad they lost their fetus.
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I'm not sure he meant precisely that. Its the normal sort of rhetoric I hear from pro-lifers frequently. I believe its intended to 'strike home' the reality of abortion, (if your mother had chosen to abort you, you would be dead, and wouldn't that suck for you).
 
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If I am mistaken, and he actually wishes death on anyone that supports abortion, then he earned the response. But we'll probably never know since you've done gone and messed his mind up.

That's just how it is, I guess. We can't hold discourse about euthanasia because some can't reason one point without bringing up abortion.
 
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