ESPN SEC Offensive Unit Ranking Average

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As oppossed to looking at salaries, here's actual rankings based on their pass and run blocking success:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/4/

Here's a list of teams that were in the top ten offensive lines that didn't make the playoffs:
Eagles (2nd), Houston (5th), Cleveland (6th), 49ers (9th)

Denver was actually ranked 10th. But that's only because they were 5th in pass blocking due to Mannings league best 2.22 seconds per pass play. They ranked 20th in run blocking, 19th in penalties, and are looking to replace as many as 3 starters from last year's line due to performance according to the Denver Post.

Broncos' offensive line dance begins with prospects - The Denver Post
 
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Vol8188 said:
As oppossed to looking at salaries, here's actual rankings...

Denver was actually ranked 10th.
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So Peyton Manning's O-Line was ranked 10th out of 32 teams? That certainly sounds above average--not the best, but above average--to me. Far from "one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL," can we agree?

Peyton's great, don't get me wrong. But he's a great QB with a good OLine in front of him. Not a sucky one.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
So Peyton Manning's O-Line was ranked 10th out of 32 teams? That certainly sounds above average--not the best, but above average--to me. Far from "one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL," can we agree?

Peyton's great, don't get me wrong. But he's a great QB with a good OLine in front of him. Not a sucky one.
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20th in run blocking. 19th in penalties.

Their pass blocking was fifth but Manning got rid of he ball faster than any other Qb in the league. He averaged 2.22 seconds.

And they plan on replacing 3 of those guys this offseason. They were a very poor unit.
 
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Vol8188 said:
20th in run blocking. 19th in penalties.

Their pass blocking was fifth but Manning got rid of he ball faster than any other Qb in the league. He averaged 2.22 seconds.

And they plan on replacing 3 of those guys this offseason. They were a very poor unit.
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10th best OLine in the NFL. Not 32nd, or even 16th. An OLine that is even better at pass defense (5th). On a team with arguably the best pocket passing QB. A team that passed about 60% of the time in 2014. Sounds to me like an OLine that was well suited to the type offense the team planned to run.

The facts just aren't supporting your argument. Yes, the QB is important. The OLine is also very important.

p.s. There is a fact-based argument that supports your position, hidden right in those web pages you quoted. Give me $20 and I'll argue your side for you, using what I saw. Pretty compelling argument, too, though it's just anecdotal. :thumbsup:
 
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Haha, y'all are cracking me up. Splitting hairs over some bulls hit rankings thrown out on the interwebs by a bunch of talking heads who, we all know, know very little about the actual individual teams they are ranking.

Can someone remind me again what any of these NFL stats have to do with playing college football in the SEC?
 
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ntxVOL said:
Haha, y'all are cracking me up. Splitting hairs over some bulls hit rankings thrown out on the interwebs by a bunch of talking heads who, we all know, know very little about the actual individual teams they are ranking.

Can someone remind me again what any of these NFL stats have to do with playing college football in the SEC?
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This is the sound of a towel being thrown into the ring.
 
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#83
On that note. ..how can y'all possibly compare the importance of an NFL veteran with 10+ yrs of experience to a kid with less than a full season of starts in college?
 
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Can someone provide the rankings of the Seahawks, Patriots, and Packers respective offensive lines? I'm curious if there is a disparity amongst the groups.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
p.s. There is a fact-based argument that supports your position, hidden right in those web pages you quoted. Give me $20 and I'll argue your side for you, using what I saw. Pretty compelling argument, too, though it's just anecdotal. :thumbsup:
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JohnMarxism said:
Can someone provide the rankings of the Seahawks, Patriots, and Packers respective offensive lines? I'm curious if there is a disparity amongst the groups.
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Ha! You found it! I was wondering if 8188 could, but you got there first.

Not the Packers, they actually had a highly-rated OLine in 2014.

But get this: the two Super Bowl teams had below average OLines! Seattle's was ranked #19, and New England, the Super Bowl Champs, had the #23 OLine in the NFL.

Anecdotal, sure, but still a compelling case for 8188's perspective. If only he had found it himself. :)
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Absolutely not.

Skill positions are more important than O-line. If you have the size and athleticism on the O-Line commensurate with your peers (we do) then it's all about coaching and working as a unit.

NFL salary distributions will tell you all you need to know about which positions are more in demand. O-line probably deserves the most respect, but an RB who can outrun the secondary or make people miss and a WR who can get open and get YAC > O-line.
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RB is inarguably considered the most expendable position in the NFL right now.
 
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