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#27
#27
When you judge how good a coach is, you have to look at what he did with what he had to work with. A stable full of 5* athletes can cover up a bunch of coaching flaws. I think CJH does a great job adjusting his play to match his players' strengths. Kirby would not have near the record he has if he were coaching at Vandy. I do understand that part of being a good coach is recruiting talent. One thing to remember is that it is easier to recruit a 5* if you are an elite university with deep pockets full of money.
 
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When you judge how good a coach is, you have to look at what he did with what he had to work with. A stable full of 5* athletes can cover up a bunch of coaching flaws. I think CJH does a great job adjusting his play to match his players' strengths. Kirby would not have near the record he has if he were coaching at Vandy. I do understand that part of being a good coach is recruiting talent. One thing to remember is that it is easier to recruit a 5* if you are an elite university with deep pockets full of money.
Re: When you judge how good a coach is, you have to look at what he did with what he had to work with.

I've said this many times. The true definition of a great coach is the one that can produce the most from the player talent with which he has to work. Some disagree and include recruiting in the definition but to me that's salesmanship not coaching. Just depends on one's definition and perspective.
 
#30
#30
Ironically, that high ranking is the result of constantly underrating Heupel's teams, leading to perceived overachieving.
From reading the article, it seems like the rating is not derived from how Heupel finished the year vs how Connelly thought that he would, but how Heupel did vs. a 20 year baseline average that UT achieved under Fulmer, Kiffin, Dools, Buzzcut, and Never-heard-of-asparagus guy. There were not a whole lot of high achieving teams in that timeframe. As previous posters have indicated, it seems a bit of a stretch and methodologically unsound.
 
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#31
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After that article that came out about them declaring that literally anyone associated with that school on payroll or as a athlete is "uneducated trailer park trash" or something like that ,well then it was always be F$K ESPN to me ! ALways and forever..I'm sure i'm not the only Ut fan out here that remembers that BS ..To ESPN 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
 
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#32
#32
WTH is up with ESPN? Is this rat poison or do they exactly believe in us?


However, according to ESPN, Tennessee could play spoiler to one SEC team's season and it's when the Georgia Bulldogs come into town within the first few weeks of the season.
 
#33
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I agree there’s no doubt he inherited a better situation. He has also sustained that success for several seasons running without much dropoff. So I am not above giving him some credit.
That’s awfully generous of you to give a 2x national champion some credit. Most here only give credit to whoever is coaching Tennessee at a given time and people who win national championships at MAC schools.
 
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I guess ESPN hate has shifted to USA Today

They are projecting Joey as the 15th ranked qb in the conference

While that 1 guy at ESPN ranked CJH second among coaches...ESPN just dropped our VOLS out of their preseason top 25. Heard about it on youtube. Hope that really pisses the team off. We arent world beaters this year...9-3 is likely...but there are definitely NOT 25 teams better than us. Maybe 15...maybe. i think we narrowly miss the playoffs like Bama and OM did last year due to 3 losses.
 
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#35
I love CJH and what he's done here. That being said I don't think he's a better head coach than Kirby. Kirby has out-recruited and out coached him too many times to argue he's better imo. Bowl cut has also been able to accomplish more overall. Heupfully that changes soon, and I will gladly change my view.
With Kirby’s roster Butch Jones would have easily been a master brick mason!!
 
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That’s awfully generous of you to give a 2x national champion some credit. Most here only give credit to whoever is coaching Tennessee at a given time and people who win national championships at MAC schools.
Normally I don’t give credit to despicable people. For all the success he has had on the field, the way he runs his program off the field is disgusting. So it it generous of me to give him any praise. Thanks for the recognition!
 
#37
#37
This is a rating of team performance relative to preseason performance grouped by head coach. It’s really not a bad analysis. Back when football study hall was doing it, it highlighted what a great coach someone like Bill Snyder is. But you have to consider preseason ratings are also based on recruits, which is also the responsibility of the head coach. So it emphasized what coaches are the best at game prep and X’s and O’s. Which I think we can all agree Heup is very strong at
 
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#41
I can't disagree. Has any coach in the modern era walked into a dumpster fire like he did and reversed things as well and as quickly?

And FWIW, I would place Bill Snyder number one if all coaches of the past 50 years were included.
This is my thinking as well. Huep literally revived our corpse. We were a dead and buried program and in the space of two years we competing for the playoffs. What he's done to this point is simply amazing. I don't know what his ceiling is but he's turned us into contenders at record speed.
 

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