Re: When you judge how good a coach is, you have to look at what he did with what he had to work with.When you judge how good a coach is, you have to look at what he did with what he had to work with. A stable full of 5* athletes can cover up a bunch of coaching flaws. I think CJH does a great job adjusting his play to match his players' strengths. Kirby would not have near the record he has if he were coaching at Vandy. I do understand that part of being a good coach is recruiting talent. One thing to remember is that it is easier to recruit a 5* if you are an elite university with deep pockets full of money.
From reading the article, it seems like the rating is not derived from how Heupel finished the year vs how Connelly thought that he would, but how Heupel did vs. a 20 year baseline average that UT achieved under Fulmer, Kiffin, Dools, Buzzcut, and Never-heard-of-asparagus guy. There were not a whole lot of high achieving teams in that timeframe. As previous posters have indicated, it seems a bit of a stretch and methodologically unsound.Ironically, that high ranking is the result of constantly underrating Heupel's teams, leading to perceived overachieving.
That’s awfully generous of you to give a 2x national champion some credit. Most here only give credit to whoever is coaching Tennessee at a given time and people who win national championships at MAC schools.I agree there’s no doubt he inherited a better situation. He has also sustained that success for several seasons running without much dropoff. So I am not above giving him some credit.
I guess ESPN hate has shifted to USA Today
They are projecting Joey as the 15th ranked qb in the conference
With Kirby’s roster Butch Jones would have easily been a master brick mason!!I love CJH and what he's done here. That being said I don't think he's a better head coach than Kirby. Kirby has out-recruited and out coached him too many times to argue he's better imo. Bowl cut has also been able to accomplish more overall. Heupfully that changes soon, and I will gladly change my view.
Normally I don’t give credit to despicable people. For all the success he has had on the field, the way he runs his program off the field is disgusting. So it it generous of me to give him any praise. Thanks for the recognition!That’s awfully generous of you to give a 2x national champion some credit. Most here only give credit to whoever is coaching Tennessee at a given time and people who win national championships at MAC schools.
It's a trap Freak. They buttering us up for somethingI mean, I love Heupel and I wouldn't rank him that high.
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Is it the coach or the program? Ranking CFB coaches while factoring in expectations
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This is my thinking as well. Huep literally revived our corpse. We were a dead and buried program and in the space of two years we competing for the playoffs. What he's done to this point is simply amazing. I don't know what his ceiling is but he's turned us into contenders at record speed.I can't disagree. Has any coach in the modern era walked into a dumpster fire like he did and reversed things as well and as quickly?
And FWIW, I would place Bill Snyder number one if all coaches of the past 50 years were included.