ESPN at it again.

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#51
BigPapaVol said:
Funny that I don't hear the same silliness about Tom Cable because he keeps playing JaMarcus Russell. Cable is in the news about punching assistants ad Al Davis is an absolute prick in everyone's view. The QB situation is an absolute handicap to this team. Those who can't appreciate that need to be ignored.

LK will tell you himself that he would change some play calls in all of the games.
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When you're paying a guy that much money it's very difficult for an owner and coach to sit him on the bench.
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#52
#52
lylsmorr said:
Oh and he hasn't failed yet, the players have failed to perform
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It starts with the leadership at the top, i.e. all of those high priced coaches you have should be doing their job. Tennessee has talent, maybe not as much as in the past, but they have talent. There is no reason a top teired SEC team should struggle with teams like Ohio. Maybe Crompton can not throw it down the field, but coaches should realize that the kids confidence is probably shot and should have him throwing more short and intermediate routes until he gets his confidence back.

I'm sorry, that is what coaches are supposed to do, right now, they are just drawing a paycheck probably looking for their next opportunity.
 
#53
#53
This reminds me a lot of the Reggie Bush draft pick a few years ago. The Texans picked Mario Williams and everyone said they were crazy for not taking Bush. Bush has been a mediocre running back while Williams is turning into a force at DE. Of course, the media is very slow to admit they were wrong and you'll rarely hear them credit the Williams pick or discredit the Bush pick.

With CLK once he started talking big everyone came out and bashed him saying he was in over his head. At the first sign of him struggling they swarm like a pack of dogs because they want to argue that they were right. In truth, it's too early to tell but people love to say I told you so.

With Chizik everyone lambasted that hire and now that he's winning the media has taken a very long time to credit him. They had to win their first 5 games just to crack the top 25 and they're a pretty anonymous 5-0 major conference team at this point. Again, it's too early to guarantee success but if they're going to pounce on CLK they should credit Chizik.
 
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#55
TennesseeT said:
Whenever someone here runs their trap about things they know and things that are going to happen you guys lay into them if they're wrong. Heck people here tear into guys over mispelling. The media is just doing the same to LK. He may have the last laugh but for now has to endure the payback for his premature arrogance.
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Normally, I hate the spelling police myself. But, that that right there, that's funny! :post-4-1090547912:
 
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#57
TennesseeT said:
I guess the truth hurts. Lane Kiffin should at least be 4-1, 3-2 at worse, but he's not. And why isn't he? Because he's been outcoached, he been too stubborn to change the glaring weakness of this football team, and has been blowing hot air ever since he got here.

Whenever someone here runs their trap about things they know and things that are going to happen you guys lay into them if they're wrong. Heck people here tear into guys over mispelling. The media is just doing the same to LK. He may have the last laugh but for now has to endure the payback for his premature arrogance.
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It's hard to bake a cake when all the chef left you in the cupboard was a salt shaker, some dirt, and expired chicken meat.
 
#59
#59
Taking sporting news soley from ESPN is probably not the brightest idea. Sure ESPN can be entertaining, but when it comes to who's going to win and why, it usually falls on whoever they are enamored with that week. It's easy to go with the most popular teams. Look at some of the knee jerk stories.....The "U" is back(I think Va Tech answered that one), The return of the Washington Huskies(really?), and my favorite, a 2 loss Oklahoma team that we just can't count out. Also, who here is tired of this stupid revenge talk. There's revenge for a team every weekend of every year. Bottom line is we watch because it is entertaining. If they just reported the scores it probably would be a little dull. However if you want to be informed, go a little deeper when looking at match-ups. Look at more than just a ranking and a school name.
 
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#61
richgator said:
There are some guys that just help a sports writer or sports news with their stories. Spurrier was one. It is not so much the original jab that facinates them as much as it is the curiousity of 'How will they get the other foot in?).

Yogi Berra was the best ever. The cool thing about Yogi is that he was nice. Not too many folks feel that way about SOS or LK.
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Yogi had some awesome quotes. They would leave you laughing and scratching your head at the same time.
 
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#64
Funny how all this rushing to condemn Kiffin as a failure comes from a media that is constantly bemoaning the "win now" mentality of big time college football. Now Kiffin owes everyone an apology after 5 freaking games. Of course, if win 2 of the next three they'll completely change their tune, even though it won't necessarily mean the program is that much better off. The media has ADD.
 
#65
#65
Big Orange Nation said:
LOL, some idiot called the basilio show yesterday bashing Kiffin and said that we would be 5-0 if Fulmer was still coaching. He wasn't joking either.
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I heard that guy too. He also cited Al Davis as authority on why Kiffin would destroy our program. Unreal. We watched this program slowly circle the bowl for the last 7 years, and guys like that think it all would have changed this year had we just given the old regime one more chance. But of course, after 5 games, it's time to declare Kiffin a failure.
 
#66
#66
TgrFan76 said:
It starts with the leadership at the top, i.e. all of those high priced coaches you have should be doing their job. Tennessee has talent, maybe not as much as in the past, but they have talent. There is no reason a top teired SEC team should struggle with teams like Ohio. Maybe Crompton can not throw it down the field, but coaches should realize that the kids confidence is probably shot and should have him throwing more short and intermediate routes until he gets his confidence back.

I'm sorry, that is what coaches are supposed to do, right now, they are just drawing a paycheck probably looking for their next opportunity.
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Not one solid argument in your entire post. Here is the talent we have: Eric Berry, Josh McNeil(but he can barely walk now), Chris Walker, Montori Hughes, Montario is amazing, Bryce can certainly contribute, Janzen Jackson. That is 7 out of 72-ish players on our rosters that have true talent and can contribute at this moment. The others are unproven. The freshman class we brought in was phenomenal, and is very talented, but most are too young to contribute at this point. There are no A.J. Greens, Julio Jones, etc in that freshman class. And if you think these coaches don't want to be successful, well you just need help then.
 
#67
#67
TgrFan76 said:
It starts with the leadership at the top, i.e. all of those high priced coaches you have should be doing their job. Tennessee has talent, maybe not as much as in the past, but they have talent. There is no reason a top teired SEC team should struggle with teams like Ohio. Maybe Crompton can not throw it down the field, but coaches should realize that the kids confidence is probably shot and should have him throwing more short and intermediate routes until he gets his confidence back.

I'm sorry, that is what coaches are supposed to do, right now, they are just drawing a paycheck probably looking for their next opportunity.
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I don't know if the Tiger part of your name means LSU or Auburn (or God forbid, Clemson), but if you are an Auburn fan you should have noticed how many short to intermediate passes Crompton failed to complete last Saturday night. Other than not going back to Nukeese Richardson more, and perhaps calling a few more overall runs, I can't complain too much about the play calling thus far.
 
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#68
lylsmorr said:
Not one solid argument in your entire post. Here is the talent we have: Eric Berry, Josh McNeil(but he can barely walk now), Chris Walker, Montori Hughes, Montario is amazing, Bryce can certainly contribute, Janzen Jackson. That is 7 out of 72-ish players on our rosters that have true talent and can contribute at this moment. The others are unproven. The freshman class we brought in was phenomenal, and is very talented, but most are too young to contribute at this point. There are no A.J. Greens, Julio Jones, etc in that freshman class. And if you think these coaches don't want to be successful, well you just need help then.
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Are you telling me that Tennessee only has enough talent to beat Ohio by 11 points? Did I say Ohio? Because I meant to say Ohio. I'm sorry, some of that blame has to go on the coaching staff. When I read the posts on this board, I could swear people on here thinks they would lose to teams like Louisiana Tech and Kent State.

The Vols have been on the decline over the past few years, I agree, but this team played for a SEC championship just 2 years ago. That takes talent and coaching. Are you telling me zero of the contributors are still on this team besides Berry? I think the coaching staff gave up last year and that was the only reason ya'll lost to Wyoming, Ole Phil knew the end was coming and he lost his team. Again, I agree it was time for a change, but I do not believe Kiffen is the answer. I maybe wrong, but we'll see. For the fans sake, I hope I am.
 
#69
#69
TgrFan76 said:
Are you telling me that Tennessee only has enough talent to beat Ohio by 11 points?

The Vols have been on the decline over the past few years, I agree, but this team played for a SEC championship just 2 years ago. That takes talent and coaching. Are you telling me zero of the contributors are still on this team besides Berry? I think the coaching staff gave up last year and that was the only reason ya'll lost to Wyoming, Ole Phil knew the end was coming and he lost his team. Again, I agree it was time for a change, but I do not believe Kiffen is the answer. I maybe wrong, but we'll see. For the fans sake, I hope I am.
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I usually just try to ignore trolls because (1) there is no constructive point to engaging them, and (2) they typically come from the second circle of hell.

But an interesting question was raised here. How many players remain from the team that played national champ LSU to the wire in the 2007 SEC Championship Game? I count 9 out of 44 from the 2 deep.

So, statement technically correct (not 0 other than Berry). Premise wrong (9 not a lot). Typical for a troll.
 
#70
#70
Houston Vol said:
I usually just try to ignore trolls because (1) there is no constructive point to engaging them, and (2) they typically come from the second circle of hell.

But an interesting question was raised here. How many players remain from the team that played national champ LSU to the wire in the 2007 SEC Championship Game? I count 9 out of 44 from the 2 deep.

So, statement technically correct (not 0 other than Berry). Premise wrong (9 not a lot). Typical for a troll.
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Sorry, I do not consider myself a troll. I didn't say ya'll did not have any players from the 07 SEC Championship Game, I just asked the question. 9 players, I would agree that is not many. I admit, I am not an avid follower of Tennessee Football but I have looked at the scores of your football games since the Manning days. I am a huge fan of his and had many friends play against him in high school. The only point I'm trying to make is some people on here think the only reason Kiffin is loosing ballgames is because he does not have talent. All I'm saying is the coaches have to take some of the blame. Looking back at history, Fulmer was not a bad coach for the Vols. 17 seasons as a head coach with only 2 seasons less than .500. Finished in the Top 25 14 times. Matter of fact, in that 2007 season, the Vols finished #12 in the Coaches and AP polls.

However, I do agree that the Vols needed a coaching change, but I do not believe Kiffin was the answer. He had a losing record as a head coach (mind you it was with the Raiders) but he still has a losing record. Mike Leach would have been better and I think Gruden would have been a better fit. I think the Vols AD fell in Love with Kiffins' BS factor. Let's face it, he can talk a good game, now it is time for him to prove it.
 
#71
#71
You may want to read the thread "Is Kiffin failing?" that I wrote today and see if that changes your mind any. Prolly not...
 
#72
#72
You should listen to the Sports Raidio Staions in Alabama there just as bad when it comes to Tennesee. Lets not Forget Nick Saban went 7-6 his first yaer at Bama.
 
#73
#73
VolNC2316 said:
You guys should watch CSS Sports Night....

Those tools are just giddy with excitement over the Vols troubles....
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I'm 22 years old(23 in a week) and none of those losers could top me at anything pertaining SEC football. I think it's hilarious when they try and discuss anything SEC football when Georgia isn't playing well, it's like the Tony Barnhart comedy hour.

For realz tho yo... you know it's a crap sports show when they have 5 people on a panel and they all tend to agree on everything.
 
#74
#74
VolSwaff said:
I'm 22 years old(23 in a week) and none of those losers could top me at anything pertaining SEC football. I think it's hilarious when they try and discuss anything SEC football when Georgia isn't playing well, it's like the Tony Barnhart comedy hour.

For realz tho yo... you know it's a crap sports show when they have 5 people on a panel and they all tend to agree on everything.
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The lack of depth in some of these guys' "analysis" is hilarious. And they get paid for it. :no:
 
#75
#75
VolNC2316 said:
You guys should watch CSS Sports Night....

Those tools are just giddy with excitement over the Vols troubles....
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I don't want to watch that show so much that I'm getting rid of Comcast this weekend. No more CSS. How will I ever live? Boo hoo.
 
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