ESPN at it again

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tennrich1 said:
My wife, who has been a JOURNALIST for almost 50 years (mostly retired now) says the new moniker is no longer JOURNAL-ism but AGENDA-ism. Sports coverage mostly has been infected with this debilitating virus too. At least it’s easy to spot and mute, not open, or let it die on the vine.
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Amen, brother. Journalism, like public service, is a noble profession. Unfortunately, both seem to be easily corrupted.
 
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VolBallGuy said:
Not going to link the asinine articles. However they have Joey as the #17 qb in the country right now mostly due to his “recent interceptions”. Also have I believe 7 SEC teams as more likely to make the playoffs than us. I don’t think they watch the games or familiarize themselves with the reality of dynamic situations before writing articles anymore. Just bad.
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A lot of the talking heads just look at box scores. If they watched each interception they would see most are on the recievers.
 
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VolBallGuy said:
Not going to link the asinine articles. However they have Joey as the #17 qb in the country right now mostly due to his “recent interceptions”. Also have I believe 7 SEC teams as more likely to make the playoffs than us. I don’t think they watch the games or familiarize themselves with the reality of dynamic situations before writing articles anymore. Just bad.
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The article is based off QBR ratings not anything else
 
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VolBallGuy said:
Not going to link the asinine articles. However they have Joey as the #17 qb in the country right now mostly due to his “recent interceptions”. Also have I believe 7 SEC teams as more likely to make the playoffs than us. I don’t think they watch the games or familiarize themselves with the reality of dynamic situations before writing articles anymore. Just bad.
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It’s just like… their opinion man.
 
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KittenVol said:
Being ranked #17 out of 68 Power Four quarterbacks is pretty good. I know some people here get offended if we’re not called the greatest team of all time, but these rankings are pretty fair.
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Agreed, and I don’t see ANY game-changing QBs eligible for the next draft. JA included. He is an excellent QB for us, but I don’t think he has the arm strength to even be drafted.
 
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VolBallGuy said:
Not going to link the asinine articles. However they have Joey as the #17 qb in the country right now mostly due to his “recent interceptions”. Also have I believe 7 SEC teams as more likely to make the playoffs than us. I don’t think they watch the games or familiarize themselves with the reality of dynamic situations before writing articles anymore. Just bad.
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7 SEC teams are ranked ahead of us in the polls so that kinda tracks.

I’m very impressed with Aguilar, but saying he is the 17th best QB in the country to me isn’t an insult. If I can go from the 75th best QB to the 17th, I’ll take that trade every time.
 
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VolBallGuy said:
Not going to link the asinine articles. However they have Joey as the #17 qb in the country right now mostly due to his “recent interceptions”. Also have I believe 7 SEC teams as more likely to make the playoffs than us. I don’t think they watch the games or familiarize themselves with the reality of dynamic situations before writing articles anymore. Just bad.
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Well, from where I sit, I don’t see that we’ve given anybody much reason to set expectations higher for us at this point. Yes, we went toe-to-toe with GA and coulda shoulda woulda won that game. And we won a game on the road against a very tough Miss St team. Let’s see where we stand and what they say after Thanksgiving.
 
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McDad said:
JA is a GREAT story. An inspirational story. And he has been an absolute blessing to UT. His talent may not be a good as Nico, but his intangibles are much improved.

With that said, I can see why someone not watching carefully could put him at 17. His has a interception narrative which he or bad luck has not changed so far this year. His arm strength is not elite. He isn't going to win games with his legs like some others. And he has a habit of missing high which is dangerous. There is also the knock against UT offensive standouts that they are doing so well because of Heupel's system.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade him for anybody else. But I am not going to get offended by the opinions of others when I can see where they are coming from.
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Yeah, I've seen a few break aways where the receiver was 5 yards or better past the DB, and had to pull up everytime when they should have been hit in stride for an easy walk. Maybe by the time he saw the separation they were beyond his limit. Hasn't been a big negative, but we could have had 2-3 extra passing TD's on a stronger deep ball. And another 3-4 lost TD's on dropped break aways.
 
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GVF said:
Yeah, I've seen a few break aways where the receiver was 5 yards or better past the DB, and had to pull up everytime when they should have been hit in stride for an easy walk. Maybe by the time he saw the separation they were beyond his limit. Hasn't been a big negative, but we could have had 2-3 extra passing TD's on a stronger deep ball. And another 3-4 lost TD's on dropped break aways.
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The ability to place the ball where it hits the receiver in full stride is a special and rare trait. Nico's pass to Donte in the OU game last year is a great example. If JA could do that, it is literally another TD or two per game, minimum.
 
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McDad said:
JA is a GREAT story. An inspirational story. And he has been an absolute blessing to UT. His talent may not be a good as Nico, but his intangibles are much improved.

With that said, I can see why someone not watching carefully could put him at 17. His has a interception narrative which he or bad luck has not changed so far this year. His arm strength is not elite. He isn't going to win games with his legs like some others. And he has a habit of missing high which is dangerous. There is also the knock against UT offensive standouts that they are doing so well because of Heupel's system.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade him for anybody else. But I am not going to get offended by the opinions of others when I can see where they are coming from.
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I hear you but if you changed the uniform to red and with a G on the helmet or crimson with a number on the helmet, the media would go out of their way to excuse the interceptions.
 
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McDad said:
The ability to place the ball where it hits the receiver in full stride is a special and rare trait. Nico's pass to Donte in the OU game last year is a great example. If JA could do that, it is literally another TD or two per game, minimum.
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Alot of that rare trait is as much the receiver adjusting speed we may not see in real time...if the ball is put far enough out. JA really on needs the juice in his arm to get an extra 5-6 yards on his deep balls and those would have been "in stride." Or he needs to get an extra second or so off that deep ball release since he has an abvious limit so the ball can go ahead and be out front?? I did notice he seems to balloon his deep ball a bit. Maybe the arm is there but he's getting too much air. Either way, he doesn't need to tweak much on that deep ball to be deadly. And there will be more chances. Our receivers have had an impressive number of deep break aways already where they are just blowing by.
 
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GVF said:
Alot of that rare trait is as much the receiver adjusting speed we may not see in real time...if the ball is put far enough out. JA really on needs the juice in his arm to get an extra 5-6 yards on his deep balls and those would have been "in stride." Or he needs to get an extra second or so off that deep ball release since he has an abvious limit so the ball can go ahead and be out front?? I did notice he seems to balloon his deep ball a bit. Maybe the arm is there but he's getting too much air. Either way, he doesn't need to tweak much on that deep ball to be deadly. And there will be more chances. Our receivers have had an impressive number of deep break aways already where they are just blowing by.
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Can you imagine how the people who played football at the turn of the century would react to the plays in the current game?
 
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McDad said:
Can you imagine how the people who played football at the turn of the century would react to the plays in the current game?
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Exactly. Even in my day in the late 70's and early 80's it is crazy different. We may have had an occasional shot gun snap, but not regular. That drop back was all about pass timing for our coach. 3 step standard release. 5 step deep ball. A screen or quick TE dump off the snap was 1 step at most. It's incedible now what a QB has to learn, recall and process in mere spilt seconds. Or defensive schemes. I recall my brief job as a CB was to run with the receiver slightly quartered to the QB, one eye on each, and as soon as a run was committed breaking off back toward the runner. Simple crap.

Dad finished HS at Jackson County (TN) in 52 or 53 two years early. He played half back and punter at TnTech as a freshman and maybe soph at 16-17 years old and 150 pounds. He said today's linebackers are bigger than most linemen thy had back then. And they rarely ever passed the ball if at all. The receiver, if they lined one up as we know it, was n extra blocker. My HS passed alot as I remember, maybe 50/50, cause we had great RB's but also all our track sprinters were WR's and we won state track nearly every year then and had fastest man in GA twice in 4 years. When you can run 10.2ish second 100 yards (9.8 on the track) in full 1980's uni you just give 'em a sec and let one go.
 
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Looking at the QB rankings, it appears to me they just put people wherever they wanted to and then made whatever brief justification for each ranking that came to mind. For instance, they have CJ Carr ranked #7. The main justification is that his game against Arkansas was nearly identical to what Trinidad Chambliss did against Arkansas. Also, they have Sawyer Robertson ranked #21. That in itself should tell you how valid these rankings are.
 
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It would help if UT didn't choke in big games against rivals or drop games vs outmatched opponents. I'm happy with the state of things, but just saying.
 
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