ESPN: 25 Points

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Does anyone else feel like jones constantly feels the need to justify why we lost those games? Lol. He just in this article said...maybe it's a sack at the end. Or a 3 yard gain to seal the deal.
Maybe its a coach that decides we should throw against a 9 man box at the end? A first down seals the game... Just saying
 
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chattavol420 said:
Does anyone else feel like jones constantly feels the need to justify why we lost those games? Lol. He just in this article said...maybe it's a sack at the end me. Or a 3 yard gain to seal the deal.
Maybe it a coach that decides we should throw against a 9 man box at the end? Just saying
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I imagine he's looking at coaching, too. We all hope he'll learn from last year's experience when it comes to in-game decision-making.

But from a team motivation standpoint, he's got to focus on the players and make them feel accountable. The truth is that players making smarter plays can make the difference between a win and a loss -- even if the coaches occasionally screw-up themselves.
 
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I find it interesting that CBJ made a point out of this right after the bowl game. Where are the mistakes be it coaching or players.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Does anyone else feel like jones constantly feels the need to justify why we lost those games? Lol. He just in this article said...maybe it's a sack at the end me. Or a 3 yard gain to seal the deal.
Maybe it a coach that decides we should throw against a 9 man box at the end? Just saying
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It sounds rather like he's finding ways to motivate the players (the guys on the field). Convincing them to work harder in the off-season so they are better come game time is far and away more important than any coaching he does during the game. So, I don't have a problem with what was said.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Does anyone else feel like jones constantly feels the need to justify why we lost those games? Lol. He just in this article said...maybe it's a sack at the end. Or a 3 yard gain to seal the deal.
Maybe its a coach that decides we should throw against a 9 man box at the end? A first down seals the game... Just saying
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I'd say just someone who has some sort of axe to grind against Butch would contrive such an assessment. There's quite a distance between using an obviously useful learning situation as opposed to grasping for excuses for losing some close games in the past. Why don't you ask any one of the players what they'd say about those 25 points? Focusing on execution is the desired result of CBJ's mentioning those particular lost points......not grubbing for excuses. AMIRIGHT? :dunno:
 
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reeceb73 said:
Here's the other way to spin this.

Tennessee’s “25 Points” Is Blaming Players For Coaching Errors | The Big Lead
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Wow. Great find. When I saw the mantra of "just one 2 yard run" , I immediate thought back to the fg from inside the 1 yard line. I love what Butch has done but he has to get better himself. There's no great coach that ever lived that would have kicked that fg.
And there's been so many more ridiculous calls. There have been kneel downs with 2 minutes to go before halftime in close games against good opponents.
He's got to coach more loose. If we lose so be it but at least let the players go out swinging. It's not fair to them to lost by being conservative. That's not they way they want to play. And for the love of god of we lose based partially on the conservative calls...don't blame the players. Take responsibility. That's what great leaders do
As talented as this team is, I'm warily worried about the conservative decisions we've seen again and again. Butch needs to be better to win in this league. Here's to hoping he's heard the criticism
 
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He makes some head scratching decisions, but I think he was smart not to trust the passing game at times last year

We were not a good pass blocking unit

Our receivers don't make efforts to attack the ball

And our QB is an average passer
 
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What puzzles me is the "25 points" thing should definitely be "17 points." Why are we dipping into 2 seasons ago?

4 losses by 17 points combined last year. That's it. Done. I don't really care what happened in November of 2014 when we are entering the 2016 season.
 
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omghulkhands said:
He makes some head scratching decisions, but I think he was smart not to trust the passing game at times last year

We were not a good pass blocking unit

Our receivers don't make efforts to attack the ball

And our QB is an average passer
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I think There were times when the criticism was warranted, but your point is spot on. Butch wasn't always playing it close to the best because he wanted to.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Wow. Great find. When I saw the mantra of "just one 2 yard run" , I immediate thought back to the fg from inside the 1 yard line. I love what Butch has done but he has to get better himself. There's no great coach that ever lived that would have kicked that fg.
And there's been so many more ridiculous calls. There have been kneel downs with 2 minutes to go before halftime in close games against good opponents.
He's got to coach more loose. If we lose so be it but at least let the players go out swinging. It's not fair to them to lost by being conservative. That's not they way they want to play. And for the love of god of we lose based partially on the conservative calls...don't blame the players. Take responsibility. That's what great leaders do
As talented as this team is, I'm warily worried about the conservative decisions we've seen again and again. Butch needs to be better to win in this league. Here's to hoping he's heard the criticism
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Do you feel better now?? Maybe you could send him an email.....
 
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omghulkhands said:
He makes some head scratching decisions, but I think he was smart not to trust the passing game at times last year

We were not a good pass blocking unit

Our receivers don't make efforts to attack the ball

And our QB is an average passer
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In hindsight, it's pretty obvious that our coaches just didn't trust the passing game early in 2015 and for most of the season.

I think that, for the most part, that lack of trust was justified since we struggled in all three phases of the passing game as you pointed out. But then again, there were situations like the UGA game and others later in the season where the offense did a pretty decent job passing when they had no other choice.

I just hope the trust is there this year. If the players can execute and give Debord the confidence to open up the playbook a bit more, the offense should have a chance to blow some teams out of the water instead of just sitting on leads like like in 2015.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
What puzzles me is the "25 points" thing should definitely be "17 points." Why are we dipping into 2 seasons ago?

4 losses by 17 points combined last year. That's it. Done. I don't really care what happened in November of 2014 when we are entering the 2016 season.
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Games Dobbs started? That's the only thing I can think of that might make sense.
 
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Hacksaw said:
I imagine he's looking at coaching, too. We all hope he'll learn from last year's experience when it comes to in-game decision-making.

But from a team motivation standpoint, he's got to focus on the players and make them feel accountable. The truth is that players making smarter plays can make the difference between a win and a loss -- even if the coaches occasionally screw-up themselves.
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One reason our military usually does better than others is field leadership. The ability of "field leaders" to make decisions when the "headquarters" plan blows up. The ability to adapt on the fly, like our military, translates to field leadership in a football game .
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
What puzzles me is the "25 points" thing should definitely be "17 points." Why are we dipping into 2 seasons ago?

4 losses by 17 points combined last year. That's it. Done. I don't really care what happened in November of 2014 when we are entering the 2016 season.
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Because 13-5 sounds better than 9-4? Butch has done a great job and had us knocking on the door last season. Now it's time to win.
 
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omghulkhands said:
He makes some head scratching decisions, but I think he was smart not to trust the passing game at times last year

We were not a good pass blocking unit

Our receivers don't make efforts to attack the ball

And our QB is an average passer
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Excellent analysis. On point.
 
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sameolvol said:
I'd say just someone who has some sort of axe to grind against Butch would contrive such an assessment. There's quite a distance between using an obviously useful learning situation as opposed to grasping for excuses for losing some close games in the past. Why don't you ask any one of the players what they'd say about those 25 points? Focusing on execution is the desired result of CBJ's mentioning those particular lost points......not grubbing for excuses. AMIRIGHT? :dunno:
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Bingo.

The coaching staff doesn't need motivation to improve. They know they have to improve. Their job is to instruct and motivate this team. The "25 points" mantra isn't for the coaches; it's for the players. And it's working.

"It motivates you every day," Dobbs said. "It hurts when you go back and watch those games that we lost last year and how we lost them. That’s our motivation every day. We don’t want to have that feeling at all. We want to come out and execute, take care of business beforehand so we’re not in any of those situations at the end of a game.”
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Butch was/is still learning on the job...believe he'll be much better this year with his decisions...now, where's my chart...:)

GO VOLS!
 
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chattavol420 said:
Wow. Great find. When I saw the mantra of "just one 2 yard run" , I immediate thought back to the fg from inside the 1 yard line. I love what Butch has done but he has to get better himself. There's no great coach that ever lived that would have kicked that fg.
And there's been so many more ridiculous calls. There have been kneel downs with 2 minutes to go before halftime in close games against good opponents.
He's got to coach more loose. If we lose so be it but at least let the players go out swinging. It's not fair to them to lost by being conservative. That's not they way they want to play. And for the love of god of we lose based partially on the conservative calls...don't blame the players. Take responsibility. That's what great leaders do
As talented as this team is, I'm warily worried about the conservative decisions we've seen again and again. Butch needs to be better to win in this league. Here's to hoping he's heard the criticism
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I doubt Butch gives a rats azz about what armchair QB fans care about his play calls. He gets paid millions of dollars to make the decisions he feels will win games. Heck, even Nick Saban makes some bonehead calls every now and then. The difference is he has the talent to overcome his mistakes. CBJ has taken this program from the bowels of college football to a pre- season Top 10 ranking in 4 years in the toughest conference in college football. At this point he deserves nothing but accolades.
 
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savannahfan said:
One reason our military usually does better than others is field leadership. The ability of "field leaders" to make decisions when the "headquarters" plan blows up. The ability to adapt on the fly, like our military, translates to field leadership in a football game .
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Doesn't hurt to have the bigger boat either.
 
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