Erik Ainge Talks About His Drug Addiction (merged)

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#176
byobbio said:
Just what exactly is legal about having somebody of age purchase alcohol for the use of someone who is not of age? Enlighten me.
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It means a person can legally purchase alcohol at some point in their lives but drugs are always illegal. Not that hard to understand.
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UTHorsey said:
Depends on the school too. Look at WSU. The cops in Pullman have arrested 3 different members of the basketball team for minor marijuana possession. They will literally go out of their way to seek out athletes in hopes of busting them.
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which gets at another (different thread type) argument, which is what role should the ncaa have, if any.

Seems a bit irrational that the NCAA can suspend A.J. Green for 4 games b/c he sold his jersey, but takes a "hand off" approach when a player gets arrested with a concealed weapon, DUI, threats of "You're going to die," etc....

But to the point of my original thread, I'm not saying UT did or did not fail him, but to say they didn't fail him b/c it happens at other schools is incredibly weak.
 
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byobbio said:
Just what exactly is legal about having somebody of age purchase alcohol for the use of someone who is not of age? Enlighten me.
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It is legal for a person of age to purchase it, what that person does with the alcohol after that is up to them. It goes back to what I said earlier. If the drinking age was 18, you'd have high school seniors providing alcohol to 14-17 year old high school students.

It is never legal to purchase drugs.
 
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utvolpj said:
come on, you'd see a bong even if you could serve alcohol (not sure when that changed but it was done up until 98-99 at least). Rush is a completely different animal than the rest of the year anyway
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Not near as much. Hell, my whole philosophy was if i could drink enough to have a great time, what do i need drugs for? I'd much rather tell my parents I got caught with alcohol than i would have drugs. If I told my parents I had a bag on me or something like that, I'd be finding some new parents. Simple as that.
 
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byobbio said:
Not near as much. Hell, my whole philosophy was if i could drink enough to have a great time, what do i need drugs for? I'd much rather tell my parents I got caught with alcohol than i would have drugs. If I told my parents I had a bag on me or something like that, I'd be finding some new parents. Simple as that.
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yes you would. Usage hasn't gone up just because you can't drink in certain places. There will always be a mix of both and it doesn't really change

btw, alcohol is a drug
 
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UTHorsey said:
It is legal for a person of age to purchase it, what that person does with the alcohol after that is up to them. It goes back to what I said earlier. If the drinking age was 18, you'd have high school seniors providing alcohol to 14-17 year old high school students.

It is never legal to purchase drugs.
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I don't know how they do it in the Pucific Northwest, but if you sell, give, loan, misplace, whatever alcohol in these parts to a minor, then you are in some serious trouble. Remember those parents a few years ago who provided alcolhol at their house to minors and one got killed on the road later? They went to jail. Because it is illegal to provide alcohol to minors.
 
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byobbio said:
I don't know how they do it in the Pucific Northwest, but if you sell, give, loan, misplace, whatever alcohol in these parts to a minor, then you are in some serious trouble. Remember those parents a few years ago who provided alcolhol at their house to minors and one got killed on the road later? They went to jail. Because it is illegal to provide alcohol to minors.
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Pretty sure it's only a misdemeanor.
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utvolpj said:
yes you would. Usage hasn't gone up just because you can't drink in certain places. There will always be a mix of both and it doesn't really change

btw, alcohol is a drug
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I am aware. I have tried to disclaimer everything i've written with "alcohol is a drug, too"
 
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byobbio said:
Well, truth be told, you cannot serve alcohol at fraternity parties now anyway. Or at least in the state of tn. I remember in my day that EVERY fraternity I went to during RUSH served alcohol. Not a one of them offered me drugs. Actually, I rarely came across illegal drugs, i should say in College. But it did happen. Now, just drop into any dorm, fraternity, apartment near campus. Bet you'd see a bong at least. Bet cha!
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Things may have changed a whole lot but you are just ignorant if you don't think 18-20 year olds drink at college.
 
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UTHorsey said:
Alcohol is much easier to get, because it can be obtained legally. Someone who is under 21 only needs to ask someone of legal age to get it. Quite different from finding a dealer in some shady alley.
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Drug dealers aren't exclusive to shady alleys. In fact, I bet you know someone who sells or has sold drugs.

I took me all of one day to find one freshman year of college, and I didn't look in a dark alley.
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byobbio said:
I don't know how they do it in the Pucific Northwest, but if you sell, give, loan, misplace, whatever alcohol in these parts to a minor, then you are in some serious trouble. Remember those parents a few years ago who provided alcolhol at their house to minors and one got killed on the road later? They went to jail. Because it is illegal to provide alcohol to minors.
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I understand that, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. No one cards you at house/apartment/dorm parties.
 
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doozer said:
Drug dealers aren't exclusive to shady alleys. In fact, I bet you know someone who sells our had sold drugs.

I took me all of one day to find one freshman year of college, and I didn't look in a dark alley.
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Yes, I was embellishing. I do know some people who are in that line of work, but my point was that as a minor, it's easier to get alcohol than drugs.
 
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VolsDeep said:
if anyone thinks that, I have a 6 pack of FourLoco to sell them.
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A Show called campus PD supports that fully. Usually it's on the campus of cincy and Washington (state?). It's on G4. Hilarious show.
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UTHorsey said:
Yes, I was embellishing. I do know some people who are in that line of work, but my point was that as a minor, it's easier to get alcohol than drugs.
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I would disagree with that. They're pretty equal once you get to college (HS is a different story)
 
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UTHorsey said:
Yes, I was embellishing. I do know some people who are in that line of work, but my point was that as a minor, it's easier to get alcohol than drugs.
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I would think simple numbers would support that. A lot more people drink alcohol than do drugs (no, I will not provide numbers. Based totally on empirical evidence). Anyone that argues with your comment is just arguing for argument's sake. It's def. much easier to get alcohol than illegal drugs.
 
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#194
I'll put it this way. Both are easy to get in college. One is much easier to get because you can get ahold of any number of friends.
 
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UTHorsey said:
Exactly. But they can still get alcohol.
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you can get anything if you know the right people. Of course Ainge had more connections than most so it wasn't difficult for him to continue his habit once his doc cut him off
 
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VolsDeep said:
I would think simple numbers would support that. A lot more people drink alcohol than do drugs (no, I will not provide numbers. Based totally on empirical evidence). Anyone that argues with your comment is just arguing for argument's sake. It's def. much easier to get alcohol than illegal drugs.
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I didn't have problem obtaining anything legal or illegal as minor.
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utvolpj said:
I would disagree with that. They're pretty equal once you get to college (HS is a different story)
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Then you're a fool. Being in it, I can tell you it's easier for alcohol to be obtained. Not saying drugs are hard but it's a large stretch to say drugs and alcohol are even. Every party has alcohol. Most do not have drugs and if they do then it's a handful of kids.
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utvolpj said:
you can get anything if you know the right people. Of course Ainge had more connections than most so it wasn't difficult for him to continue his habit once his doc cut him off
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Also a good point. It would be much easier for someone in his position than it would be for the average joe. I'm sure there are people willing to bend over backwards to help out/hook up a major college QB.
 
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