Election Results Thread

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volprof said:
Russia admitted to having contacts with the Trump campaign throughout the election, as well as hinted at being behind the Wikileaks releases, not that anyone cares.

And for the record, since there seems to be some confusion concerning my construct of Kremlin Don, I don't think he's a witting agent. I think he's just what Lenin would have referred to as a "useful idiot" and allows himself to be manipulated by Putin as such.

Anyhow, the ultimate aim of Soviet active measures (like what was demonstrated with Wikileaks and other various breaches throughout the election) was always to foment American civil strife - especially in its race relations - so as to rot it from the core. Whether or not this is still the Russian Federation's aim is anyone's guess, but I don't think it's merely to be "buddy-buddy." The men in the Kremlin are smart guys; they know very well that the US and Russia can never truly be buddy-buddy. Geographical realities and competing economic interests will never allow it.
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This is what the preamble to four years of butthurt looks like folks.
 
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In reading an article on why the Michigan call was wrong we get some insights into how the polls got this wrong and how the exit vote made it worse.

The rural counties had much higher turnout than expected so more votes than expected in the tally. Add to that Trump did worse than Romney in precincts that were suburban so when the exit polls showed Trump doing worse those precincts were rated as more important than the reality because of the pattern from 2012.

In the end, exit polls made it look worse for Trump because he underperformed in precincts that historically accounted for more of the total state vote. Too much weighting on the wrong precincts.

So it's not so much the data is inaccurate; it's the model into which the data is fed.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I don't really believe this because I think the Democratic base would've been more motivated with Obama on the ticket.
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Pretty much agree, and then on the second round an incumbent is hard to beat. McCain didn't inspire a wide enough demographic - younger generations have no respect for what they have or the people who gave it to them (see several replies above), and I really don't think Palin added anything but SNL fodder.

To me Romney was as bad a choice as the GOP could have found - a clean cut, well dressed, rich snake in the grass who made his money as a scavenger not a builder. A guy who could alienate pretty much anyone even when he bent over backwards to play nice guy. It's really hard to find such a clean cut guy more offensive than Trump, but the GOP managed it.
 
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volinbham said:
In reading an article on why the Michigan call was wrong we get some insights into how the polls got this wrong and how the exit vote made it worse.

The rural counties had much higher turnout than expected so more votes than expected in the tally. Add to that Trump did worse than Romney in precincts that were suburban so when the exit polls showed Trump doing worse those precincts were rated as more important than the reality because of the pattern from 2012.

In the end, exit polls made it look worse for Trump because he underperformed in precincts that historically accounted for more of the total state vote. Too much weighting on the wrong precincts.

So it's not so much the data is inaccurate; it's the model into which the data is fed.
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Fox interviewed an analytics guy and he made an interesting observation. During the process Trump's support would waver based on the news that came out(if trump said something stupid for example) but Hillary's would stay the same. Meaning Trump would lose or gain support but Clinton never gained. That observation can be a good indicator of silent voters. How many was found out Tuesday night.
 
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Just for the couple of you who thought I was lying about the events at my kids school yesterday, here is the link to the article they put out today.

502 Bad Gateway

We were among the parents who went this morning to investigate. Our son, 11th grader, went to school today as most of the kids who were in on this are not in his shop (culinary). My daughter, 10th grade, decided to wait out the day as most of the belt buckle crew is over in her shop (welding) or in the diesel mechanic school. The article doesn't really go into much detail on what happened yesterday. The clip is pretty short but that was the type of nonsense that went on for a while and sparked the fights. Of course there were threats of retaliation but so far no issues. They are planning a unity rally tomorrow.

York Daily Record - Home
 
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Overall, there were eight Republican-held seats and one Democrat-held seat that were competitive going into Tuesday night: Illinois, Wisconsin, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, Indiana, Pennsylvania, and Missouri.



Of the nine Republicans in these competitive races, six of them stood by Trump or, in the case of Pennsylvania’s Pat Toomey, didn’t reject him. Three of them, though, explicitly rejected Trump: Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire, Mark Kirk in Illinois, and Joe Heck in Nevada.

The final results are telling: The three candidates who rejected Trump all lost, while the rest triumphed.



Read more: Dumping Trump May Have Cost Republican Senate Candidates | The Daily Caller
 
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now all the liberals are ranting about the Electoral College and how we need to get rid of it
 
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YorkVol said:
Just for the couple of you who thought I was lying about the events at my kids school yesterday, here is the link to the article they put out today.

502 Bad Gateway

We were among the parents who went this morning to investigate. Our son, 11th grader, went to school today as most of the kids who were in on this are not in his shop (culinary). My daughter, 10th grade, decided to wait out the day as most of the belt buckle crew is over in her shop (welding) or in the diesel mechanic school. The article doesn't really go into much detail on what happened yesterday. The clip is pretty short but that was the type of nonsense that went on for a while and sparked the fights. Of course there were threats of retaliation but so far no issues. They are planning a unity rally tomorrow.
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I didnt see any mention of the teachers in the write up. Are they still accused of telling hispanic kids they will be deported?

Also, that write up was difficult to follow. Kept jumping between Wednesday and Thursday in the story.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Cnn panel now trying to champion the fact that the U.S. Govt doesn't do a good job of representing the desires of the people.

When conservatives complain about govt they were labeled racists/sexist/any other name you can come up with.

Now that the democrats lose and there's a bunch of angry socialist/BLM/Bernie supporters protesting.........now the U.S. Govt is a problem.
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theFallGuy said:
now all the liberals are ranting about the Electoral College and how we need to get rid of it
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Maybe they need reminding that they also wanted to make it a simple majority to ram stuff through congress just a very few years ago.
 
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McDad said:
I didnt see any mention of the teachers in the write up. Are they still accused of telling hispanic kids they will be deported?

Also, that write up was difficult to follow. Kept jumping between Wednesday and Thursday in the story.
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I asked about that and the principal was unable to find any witnesses to that happening. She said it was pretty unlikely and our experience with the faculty is that they are pretty solid people so I would have been pretty surprised if it had actually happened.
 
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Nothing will change. There will be some small move to gut barrycare, small tax cuts, make nice with Russia, shake finger at mooslims, etc. The only thing that is good for the country and repubs are the SC nominees.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
House of Saud ring any bells with you?
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Or Qatar. Or Morocco.

The ****ing Clinton Foundation was peddling influence (evidence abounds) and it's ok, yet someone once lied and said 'RUSSIA DID WIKILEAKS' and suddenly there's outrage and 'get foreign influence out of government!'

The dissonance going on in some people's brains...
 
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@ABCPolitics

NEW: Vote count in presidential election, with 93% of expected vote in:

Clinton: 61,035,065 (48%)
Trump: 60,367,210 (47%)
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I find it hard to believe that we are +6 days out from the election and there is still votes to be counted. Still with 7% left to be counted Trump is theory could still win the popular vote, just needs to make up 667,855 votes.
 
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