Elander @3rd

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#77
I asked AI … ”How many baseball managers also coach third base” … the answer …

In modern Major League Baseball, it is extremely rare—essentially zero—for a manager to coach from the third-base box during games. Managers now remain in the dugout to make strategic decisions, while specialized coaches handle base coaching duties. Managers focus on in-game strategy (pitching changes, matchups) from the dugout, while dedicated third-base coaches manage base running.

But, but … what the heck do they know!!!
 
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teeball said:
I asked AI … ”How many baseball managers also coach third base” … the answer …

In modern Major League Baseball, it is extremely rare—essentially zero—for a manager to coach from the third-base box during games. Managers now remain in the dugout to make strategic decisions, while specialized coaches handle base coaching duties. Managers focus on in-game strategy (pitching changes, matchups) from the dugout, while dedicated third-base coaches manage base running.

But, but … what the heck do they know!!!
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50+ year olds coaching 162 games/yr vs a 34 yr old coaching 70.

Let the man coach where he wants to coach.

This is likely the silliest discussion re: baseball on VN.
 
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wmcovol said:
That was a fluke play. The ball hit Clark & ricocheted into the catchers mitt. With 2 outs, You gotta make them make that play. They got lucky there.
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I don’t get this, the only fluke was that it hit him and was still caught. He was out by 8 feet, a throw 3 inches further to the inside of the line and the catcher has zero issue making the catch and applying the same tag. On wet field turf the ball is getting to the LF quicker coupled with who your runner was and it should’ve never been a send.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
50+ year olds coaching 162 games/yr vs a 34 yr old coaching 70.

Let the man coach where he wants to coach.

This is likely the silliest discussion re: baseball on VN.
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The statistics clearly say otherwise, thus making you the silliest clown of the day!
 
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Each day more people are saying THE manager can’t run the program being a bad position coach that can’t control his dugout, because he’s chillin’ out at 3rd. In addition to fundamental bad decisions, being a flatliner personality is also a bad culture fit at Tennessee, in any sport!

CJE has a lot to figure out quickly!
 
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knoxvol52 said:
Maybe when Vitello gets fired from Giants in a few years, Elander might hire him to be 3rd base coach...😆
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All joking aside, I'm not sure Vitello could recapture the magic even if he did return here. It's almost like his leaving broke some sort of baseball spell. Having said that, I doubt he ever returns to coach UT.
 
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beachvol23 said:
That didn’t take long!!!!

And backup source for you clowns! Eat crow 😂😂😂😂
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Program saved!!! THIS is why we’ve been struggling. Now that he’s in the dugout, it will be like Tony never left.

In all seriousness, this will have a marginal impact at best. I’m not sure why people have been so hung up on this for weeks.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Program saved!!! THIS is why we’ve been struggling. Now that he’s in the dugout, it will be like Tony never left.

In all seriousness, this will have a marginal impact at best. I’m not sure why people have been so hung up on this for weeks.
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Probably just wants to get a better hands-on vibe of the boys. That was something Vitello was pretty magical at - keeping the boys engaged and believing. A true CEO
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
Probably just wants to get a better hands-on vibe of the boys. That was something Vitello was pretty magical at - keeping the boys engaged and believing. A true CEO
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I choose to believe it was a, “when do i press this button?” Moment. I mean baseball is all about timing, am i right?
 
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I will say this now. I think this will hurt us. You took someone who had been the 3rd base coach for years and replaced him with someone who has never been there as far as I know. In the middle of SEC play, someone has to learn to coach 3rd. If you have never been there, you don't understand. It is totally different than coaching first. You have to make split second decisions that can definitely change games. I could see it yesterday as he was looking to the dugout for advice as to what E wanted to do. He can learn but it is not going to be easy. And I hope no one who has asked for this complains when it bites us and it will bite us but hopefully not in a really bad way. It is a process to learn when to send a runner and when to hold him. When to move from the runner going home to the runner coming into second so you can coach him. I promise you for those of you who have not coached third in high tense situations you don't have a clue until you do it. First is just saying go to second on the easy ones and making sure the players know the signs that are being given. Third is winning or losing games. I feel like he knows this is not the right time to do it but felt the pressure from those around him. There is a reason many of the top college coaches did it on a regular basis early on and some stayed there. It is control. And when you put someone else there you give up control. If I could give advice to him/them, it would be to have him watch video games and decide when to send and when to hold. You do that in the fall in real life but now it is in the middle of do or die games that could mean people keeping or losing their jobs by winning or losing these games. MY opinion and mine only. I hope it works out but it is a scary move. And don't say look at the results yesterday. AP is not a good team.
 
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preacherman20 said:
I will say this now. I think this will hurt us. You took someone who had been the 3rd base coach for years and replaced him with someone who has never been there as far as I know. In the middle of SEC play, someone has to learn to coach 3rd. If you have never been there, you don't understand. It is totally different than coaching first. You have to make split second decisions that can definitely change games. I could see it yesterday as he was looking to the dugout for advice as to what E wanted to do. He can learn but it is not going to be easy. And I hope no one who has asked for this complains when it bites us and it will bite us but hopefully not in a really bad way. It is a process to learn when to send a runner and when to hold him. When to move from the runner going home to the runner coming into second so you can coach him. I promise you for those of you who have not coached third in high tense situations you don't have a clue until you do it. First is just saying go to second on the easy ones and making sure the players know the signs that are being given. Third is winning or losing games. I feel like he knows this is not the right time to do it but felt the pressure from those around him. There is a reason many of the top college coaches did it on a regular basis early on and some stayed there. It is control. And when you put someone else there you give up control. If I could give advice to him/them, it would be to have him watch video games and decide when to send and when to hold. You do that in the fall in real life but now it is in the middle of do or die games that could mean people keeping or losing their jobs by winning or losing these games. MY opinion and mine only. I hope it works out but it is a scary move. And don't say look at the results yesterday. AP is not a good team.
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I think the long term plan is to have Craig Bell be the 3rd base coach and move Ross back to 1st.

If I’m reading it right, it sounds like Craig has done it before with his time at Florida
 
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Yep, Chuckie and Rocky.

This is from the article beachvol shared above:

"Assistant coach Ross Kivett was the third-base coach while Ricky Martinez was the first-base coach against the Govs. However, the long term plan is for Director of Program Development Craig Bell to coach third base and for Kivett to remain at first base. Bell was under the weather Tuesday night which is why he did not coach third base."
 
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KptVFL said:
Yep, Chuckie and Rocky.

This is from the article beachvol shared above:

"Assistant coach Ross Kivett was the third-base coach while Ricky Martinez was the first-base coach against the Govs. However, the long term plan is for Director of Program Development Craig Bell to coach third base and for Kivett to remain at first base. Bell was under the weather Tuesday night which is why he did not coach third base."
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Thank you for posting the quote. I close articles at the first sign of getting spammed. RTI is bad about that.
 
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