Elander @3rd

#33
#33
TheMookieMonster said:
Baseball is not exactly a fast-paced sport. I fail to see what impact standing on the 3rd base line will have on Josh’s ability to manage the game versus standing 75ish feet to the right on the 1st base line. What a non-issue.
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Prolly a stray concept picked up from twitter sewage. Source of cultural infections.
 
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For all you wannabe jokers, thanks for contributing nothing intelligent to the conversation. So far only THREE successful managers have been listed out of hundreds or thousands. It only exists at high school or low level colleges out of necessity, staffing and budget limits.

If managing from 3rd base was so great, every MLB and upper college leagues managers would all do it, but they don’t!!!

So put that in your pipe and smoke it! 😉
 
#35
#35
Bats aren't looking very good so far this season, either for contact or power, so until JE proves otherwise, I will stand by him trying to “keep it real” still being hitting coach and @ 3B is a BAD decision!

A manager is a PROGRAM MANAGER, and he must learn that, and how to do that.

It’s more about time management, resource allocation, personnel management and delegation!
 
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beachvol23 said:
Bats aren't looking very good so far this season, either for contact or power, so until JE proves otherwise, I will stand by him trying to “keep it real” still being hitting coach and @ 3B is a BAD decision!

A manager is a PROGRAM MANAGER, and he must learn that, and how to do that.

It’s more about time management, resource allocation, personnel management and delegation!
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we’ve scored 10, 5, 12, 10, and 3 in this game so far. An average of 8 runs a game? Don’t know where you’re getting that from….
 
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#39
VolKnight9 said:
I understand. But we are also only 5 game in. We are young and have lots of new faces in the lineups. Pitching is almost always ahead of hitting at the beginning of the year as well. We are fine.
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Certainly, and I wonder how much the new lights are messing with people too! Looks harsh on TV.
 
#40
#40
Are base coaches allowed to have headphones/mics on while out in the field? Ex—other staff members find out someone in the bullpen or dugout is injured and want Elander to know immediately.—For those of you who think this is the dumbest post ever, trust me, I am capable of a lot worse.
 
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no accountability in dugout when HC on 3rd half the time! The slop will continue until Elander learns to be the captain of the ship instead of “one of the boys”!!!
 
#43
#43
volfan102455 said:
Doesn't Weakley coach at third base when the Lady Vols are batting?
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I know she used to be on field, not sure this year, however, 60’ v 90’ is a huge difference in field space and away from dugout. Comparing girls softball to elite college baseball is literally apples and oranges though.
 
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beachvol23 said:
I know she used to be on field, not sure this year, however, 60’ v 90’ is a huge difference in field space and away from dugout. Comparing girls softball to elite college baseball is literally apples and oranges though.
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Augie Garrido, Skip Bertman, Ron Frazier, Clif Gustafson, Gary Gilmore. Tim Corbin.

That is a bunch of NCAA titles won by head coaches who also coached third base.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Augie Garrido, Skip Bertman, Ron Frazier, Clif Gustafson, Gary Gilmore. Tim Corbin.

That is a bunch of NCAA titles won by head coaches who also coached third base.
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That’s a good list, still only six of thousands and none of those (championships) were in the NIL era though with constant roster turnover. Corbin is the best current example, but he’s been doing it for decades.

In the current landscape and culture of TN baseball, I don’t see any way it’s a recipe for success for a first year HC to NOT be in the dugout all the time.
 
#48
#48
beachvol23 said:
That’s a good list, still only six of thousands and none of those (championships) were in the NIL era though with constant roster turnover. Corbin is the best current example, but he’s been doing it for decades.

In the current landscape and culture of TN baseball, I don’t see any way it’s a recipe for success for a first year HC to NOT be in the dugout all the time.
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True. NIL did completely change the way in which a manager can coach from 3rd. Hopefully, someone at Spyre can clue Josh in to this fact. Hell, it probably caused all those wild pitches hitting batters and fielding errors, since he was coaching 3rd while we were batting.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
True. NIL did completely change the way in which a manager can coach from 3rd. Hopefully, someone at Spyre can clue Josh in to this fact. Hell, it probably caused all those wild pitches hitting batters and fielding errors, since he was coaching 3rd while we were batting.
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Maybe this will help you understand smarty pants: the fielding problems you mentioned, if HC IS IN DUGOUT while team is at bat, he can also simultaneously MANAGE, plan, and hold players accountable for defense, while delegating to his 3b hitting coach simultaneously! HE can’t do that from third base, its not possible!

Alternately, for the football brains: What would you think if someone like Steve Spurrier or Josh Heupel went to press box to call offensive plays then back to the sideline when on defense?

Would you want any head coach not in full control of the dugout or sideline?

Why would you not want your head coach where he needs to be?
 
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beachvol23 said:
Maybe this will help you understand smarty pants: the fielding problems you mentioned, if HC IS IN DUGOUT while team is at bat, he can also simultaneously MANAGE, plan, and hold players accountable for defense, while delegating to his 3b hitting coach simultaneously! HE can’t do that from third base, its not possible!

Alternately, for the football brains: What would you think if someone like Steve Spurrier or Josh Heupel went to press box to call offensive plays then back to the sideline when on defense?

Would you want any head coach not in full control of the dugout or sideline?

Why would you not want your head coach where he needs to be?
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Exactly. Plus, NIL!
 
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