Early spreads for Tennessee Games

#27
#27
Rudy123 said:
Only reason we lost to UGA last year was because A.J. Green was playing his first game of the season and had a break out game. Also, it was between the hedges and Simms was our q.b. Also, G. Jones was sidelines with an injury to his hand or wrist.
I believe that we will either beat UGA, UF, Bama, LSU or U$C. I don't see us losing to all of them and we may only lose to two of them.
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Id say our special teams givin them the ball inside their own territory time after time was main thing. And Simms
 
#29
#29
WoodsmanVol said:
Just my opinions:

1. Golden Nugget is a dumpy casino located on the renovated Fremont Street. I view their sports betting with a skeptical eye. Not that any of the casinos are exactly honest.
2. I'd suggest sports betting at: Sahara, Boulder Station, Palace Station, Texas Station, Sunset Station, Orleans, Silverton, or Bally's. There's one other but I can't recall the name. I think it was just across the street from Rio.

Just my opinion. Plus the fact I often used to walked out of these places with more money in my pocket than when I walked in so I'm biased.
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Did you really call the Nugget "dumpy" while complementing the likes of the Station casinos and the Orleans?!? When was the last time you were in Vegas -- 1975?
 
#30
#30
MemphisVol1485 said:
Florida seems a bit high. I would think it would be around -9.5.
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We lost to them by 14 at home last year; they are more talented this year than last year; we are about the same talent level as last year; their coordinators are better on both sides of the ball than last year; Dooley has rarely performed well against more talented teams here or at La Tech; and the game is in Gainesville. 13 1/2 makes sense.
 
#31
#31
vol_in_il said:
I've always liked Caeser's sportsbook
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1. Wynn
2. Any of the Cantor books, with live gaming;
3. Ceasar's, Bellagio or MGM for comparable, quality books;
4. Nugget for smaller and off-the-strip, with cool TV set-up;
5. Hilton for the traditional.
 
#32
#32
jasonvol18 said:
Yeah they are all just early lines. They wont be anywhere near that when the games start. Its like that every year.
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Not necessarily. Many of those spreads stay within that neighborhood; about half will move substantially, and the other half stay close to the early number posted.
 
#33
#33
VegasVol said:
Did you really call the Nugget "dumpy" while complementing the likes of the Station casinos and the Orleans?!? When was the last time you were in Vegas -- 1975?
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VegasVol, I lived in LV for 15 years. Golden Nuggets is an older casino that needs new carpets among other things. The food so and so and while it is a cut above the likes of Vegas Club, Gold Spike, and Lady Luck; not by much.

Now the station casino are not as classy as the Rio, Palms, Caeser, Bellagio and that ilk but except maybe for Palace Station, they sure know how to serve a buffet. Orleans wasn't existent in 1975. For that matter neither were the station casinos. So I wonder when was the last you were there or opened your eyes lately to see what's there. Golden Nuggest, Fritzerald.s Binion, practically every casino along that Fremont Street and block area, need renovations in my view. They have historical value as "Old Las Vegas" institutions, true. But they're sort of dinky though retaining some of the class and a dash of the charm of the LV of old. Maybe we can just say to each his own, but don't presume I know nothing of Vegas. I frequently went there even before I moved there.
 
#37
#37
These spreads are pathetic. I like us being the underdog anyways. We're gonna prove some people wrong this year. We've got a great year of football coming up folks, and I couldn't be more ready
 
#38
#38
+10.5 vs. SC is kinda high (I was expecting +5 or +6), but there's still a long time left. This doesn't mean anything right now.
 
#39
#39
With all the sophmores and true fresman the posters on volnation have all their faith in who knows???????????????????????????

I mean their is no one ever excited about a JR OR SR on this team (not only this year but the last few years) I say we cut all current vol upperclassmen and let the 5 star high school guys play in their spots then the oddsmakers can have a reason to put us as big of an underdog as some of you expect:rolleyes:


Come on people all i hear on this V.N. board is how an unproven player is better than what we got!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's time to get behind our team and let the coaches coach (and recruit) and dont expect too much this season!!!!!!!!

Remember it's a work in progress!!!!!!!!
 
#40
#40
Generally I'm very skeptical with lines. They're always designed to look too good to be true. I have no idea why UF is favored by 13.5. Anything between 6 and 10 would seem reasonable. I think it's a very winnable game for the Vols. I'd love to get a moneyline on that game at UT +400
 
#41
#41
All of you questioning the lines amaze me. Do any of you really think they don't know much? How do you think they build those amazing establishments we call Casinos? They ALWAYS win more than they lose. Besides the reality is that they set the lines at a point that will cause action "betting" from both sides. The casinos don't care who wins or loses. They only care by how much. And many fools get separated from their money because they know more than the house.
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#42
#42
VolBeef88 said:
All of you questioning the lines amaze me. Do any of you really think they don't know much? How do you think they build those amazing establishments we call Casinos? They ALWAYS win more than they lose. Besides the reality is that they set the lines at a point that will cause action "betting" from both sides. The casinos don't care who wins or loses. They only care by how much. And many fools get separated from their money because they know more than the house.
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It's true that the lines are usually sharp, but it's also true that the initial line (especially one this early) is often a little softer and may change greatly between now and the game. The Florida line is higher than the opening Florida line last year, when the Gators were a top ten team and we'd just been crushed by Oregon. I can't see that holding up. Similarly, the Alabama line is higher than the line for Alabama/UT and Alabama/Ole Miss last year.

I also think the Nugget is full of crap making Mississippi State a favorite over LSU and LSU a nine point underdog to Alabama.
 
#43
#43
UT must deal with Lattimore and Jeffery ....aka gas pumper. Reap the whirlwind Tennesee......reap it.
 
#45
#45
WoodsmanVol said:
VegasVol, I lived in LV for 15 years. Golden Nuggets is an older casino that needs new carpets among other things. The food so and so and while it is a cut above the likes of Vegas Club, Gold Spike, and Lady Luck; not by much.

Now the station casino are not as classy as the Rio, Palms, Caeser, Bellagio and that ilk but except maybe for Palace Station, they sure know how to serve a buffet. Orleans wasn't existent in 1975. For that matter neither were the station casinos. So I wonder when was the last you were there or opened your eyes lately to see what's there. Golden Nuggest, Fritzerald.s Binion, practically every casino along that Fremont Street and block area, need renovations in my view. They have historical value as "Old Las Vegas" institutions, true. But they're sort of dinky though retaining some of the class and a dash of the charm of the LV of old. Maybe we can just say to each his own, but don't presume I know nothing of Vegas. I frequently went there even before I moved there.
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Ok; maybe you haven't been there lately. The Nugget underwent major renovations over the last several years, and is now a quality casino; it's not in the Wynn class, but it's better than the Excalibur-Monte Carlo class on the strip. It's a legit 4* locale.

Agree on the rest of Fremont street, as long as you exempt Hugo's Cellar.

Just never been a big fan of the Stations' casinos; agree some folks like it. But they really aren't in the same class of casino as the redeveloped Nuggett.
 
#46
#46
Incipient said:
It's true that the lines are usually sharp, but it's also true that the initial line (especially one this early) is often a little softer and may change greatly between now and the game. The Florida line is higher than the opening Florida line last year, when the Gators were a top ten team and we'd just been crushed by Oregon. I can't see that holding up. Similarly, the Alabama line is higher than the line for Alabama/UT and Alabama/Ole Miss last year.

I also think the Nugget is full of crap making Mississippi State a favorite over LSU and LSU a nine point underdog to Alabama.
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I agree on some of that criticism, but what it shows you is what some of the early bookie assessment is of our recruiting and current coaching, which is, to say, not much, unfortunately. The only people I've heard in Vegas who think Tennessee is on any kind of come-back (to just the 2000-2007 era) are mostly just Tennessee fans; more than a few folks think we're heading into permanent mediocrity or worse.
 
#47
#47
VegasVol said:
I agree on some of that criticism, but what it shows you is what some of the early bookie assessment is of our recruiting and current coaching, which is, to say, not much, unfortunately. The only people I've heard in Vegas who think Tennessee is on any kind of come-back (to just the 2000-2007 era) are mostly just Tennessee fans; more than a few folks think we're heading into permanent mediocrity or worse.
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Well they're right to need more evidence. Unless they have a lot of respect for Chaney and Wilcox (which I do) or have listened to all of Dooley's interviews, they haven't seen anything spectacular. But you don't always see the spectacular in year one. See: Auburn, Alabama, Florida, etc.
 
#49
#49
Incipient said:
It's true that the lines are usually sharp, but it's also true that the initial line (especially one this early) is often a little softer and may change greatly between now and the game. The Florida line is higher than the opening Florida line last year, when the Gators were a top ten team and we'd just been crushed by Oregon. I can't see that holding up. Similarly, the Alabama line is higher than the line for Alabama/UT and Alabama/Ole Miss last year.

I also think the Nugget is full of crap making Mississippi State a favorite over LSU and LSU a nine point underdog to Alabama.
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But the points change according to the action that comes in or major injuries or a coach change etc. But mostly the changes in the spread happen due to bets placed.
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#50
#50
why are people pissed at the lines? take UT now at those odds if you can get it at -110 with the points.
 
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