Early look at next year's SEC (Subject to change)

[bleedingTNorange]

DraftExpress has Young at the beginning of the second round in 2013, while they have Stokes at the beginning of the second round in 2014. NBAdraft.net has Young towards the end of the second round in 2013.

They have no clue as to who will actually be declaring or staying; they're just guessing. Young and Stokes have similar stocks.

No they don't, if they did stokes would be projected in 2013 drafts, he's not.

Guess we will see soon enough, but I'm guessing Young leaves and it appears Stokes is returning.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I agree. Young has to look at this draft seriously because it is the weakest draft he will see.

Exactly. Stokes doesn't have to concern himself with that too much because he will still have another year if he chooses it, Young obviously doesn't have that option.

 

[SJAVol32]

LSU will be very good. So will UT and Florida. All three should make the tourney or itll be disappointing.

Kentucky will win the National Championship. They should be ashamed if they do not.

UK has POTENTIAL to be scary good but handing them a championship based off a recruiting class is silly. Just look at last years class. Let them play first.

 

[TeazyT]

UK has POTENTIAL to be scary good but handing them a championship based off a recruiting class is silly. Just look at last years class. Let them play first.

I agree with you to a certain extent. But this year's class can't really be compared to any classes previous, their bench will be better than alot of team's starters. I wouldn't give them a championship yet either, but next year's team will not be going to the NIT. I guarantee you that.

 

[SJAVol32]

I agree with you to a certain extent. But this year's class can't really be compared to any classes previous, their bench will be better than alot of team's starters. I wouldn't give them a championship yet either, but next year's team will not be going to the NIT. I guarantee you that.

Oh I know that but they still have to play together. I'm not ready to give them a championship until I see them in uniform together playing

 

[GatorsGators]

I'd go:

1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. Tennessee
4. Alabama
5. LSU
6. Missouri
7. Vanderbilt
8. Ole Miss
9. Arkansas
10. Georgia (I'd slide them up a slot or two if KCP comes back)
11. Texas A&M
12. Mississippi State
13. South Carolina



14. Auburn

I think the top four teams will be NCAAT teams for sure (and Martin and Grant's jobs depend on it). 5-9 all should be in the mix for some kind of postseason. Georgia should be in the mix as well if KCP comes back.

 

[TeazyT]

I'd go:

1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. Tennessee
4. Alabama
5. LSU
6. Missouri
7. Vanderbilt
8. Ole Miss
9. Arkansas
10. Georgia (I'd slide them up a slot or two if KCP comes back)
11. Texas A&M
12. Mississippi State
13. South Carolina



14. Auburn

Pretty solid list, but Georgia above TAMU without KCP?

 

[GatorsGators]

Pretty solid list, but Georgia above TAMU without KCP?

A&M will be losing Elston Turner as well, so that's kind of a wash. A&M is also losing their best big man (Ray Turner), and none of their recruits are instant-impact players.

Neither would be good, though. They'd just be varying degrees of bad.

 

[Shaun1985]

I'd move Arkansas up. They will be extremely tough. Nice writeup!

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I'd go:

1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. Tennessee
4. Alabama
5. LSU
6. Missouri
7. Vanderbilt
8. Ole Miss
9. Arkansas
10. Georgia (I'd slide them up a slot or two if KCP comes back)
11. Texas A&M
12. Mississippi State
13. South Carolina



14. Auburn

I think the top four teams will be NCAAT teams for sure (and Martin and Grant's jobs depend on it). 5-9 all should be in the mix for some kind of postseason. Georgia should be in the mix as well if KCP comes back.

I agree with this mostly, if young leaves I'd slide Florida below Tennessee though probably. I also think LSU may take a little bit to gel, may swap them and Missouri but its close, they'll be talented. What Kentucky's underclassmen do would dictate where I put them. If harrow and wiltjer transfer which has been rumored, and Noel, stein, poythress and Goodwin all go pro leaving Kentucky with 7 freshman, Polson and Hood I'm not sure I'd give them the number one spot, but jmo.

 

[TeazyT]

I agree with this mostly, if young leaves I'd slide Florida below Tennessee though probably. I also think LSU may take a little bit to gel, may swap them and Missouri but its close, they'll be talented. What Kentucky's underclassmen do would dictate where I put them. If harrow and wiltjer transfer which has been rumored, and Noel, stein, poythress and Goodwin all go pro leaving Kentucky with 7 freshman, Polson and Hood I'm not sure I'd give them the number one spot, but jmo.

Ahh i don't really think it'll matter come SEC schedule for them. That team is gonna be stacked as any i've ever seen, and Cal has his meeting with Wiggins today, if they land him ughh it may be ugly

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Ahh i don't really think it'll matter come SEC schedule for them. That team is gonna be stacked as any i've ever seen, and Cal has his meeting with Wiggins today, if they land him ughh it may be ugly

Their class was number 1 last year, they had more talent than anyone last year and struggled...I get next years team will be insanely talented but there's a reason they don't hang banners for finishing number 1 in recruiting. There's a good chance UK has 8 freshman and a former walk on playing next year, be interesting how much experience hurts them.

As for wiggins, every coach is gomna meet with him, this isn't some breaking news thing today. I doubt he ends up at UK, think he's FSU or UNC bound.

On a related note Dominique Hawkins a Kentucky native said he's going to UK today...so 8 freshman they've got coming in as of now, that's crazy.

 

[MissouriFan]

So I know that this year's recruiting season isn't even over yet, but I thought it'd be fun to take a look at how the SEC is shaping out right now. So i evaluated each team and ranked them. Bottom line is SEC will be much better next year. Hope I wasn't biased!

Florida- Florida is losing their 3 leading scorers, F-Erik Murphy (12.8 ppg),G-Mike Rosario (12.5 ppg),G-Kenny Boynton-12.1 ppg). However they are still bringing in a top 10 recruiting class. Joining the Gators, G-Kasey Hill (#9- ESPN 100) and F-Chris Walker (#14- ESPN 100). Billy D always has a good team, and this year will be no exception.

Kentucky- Still a lot of question marks surrounding Cal's team for the 2013-14. However the bottom line is, this team will be the most talented in the SEC without a doubt. Gaining arguably the greatest recruiting class in CBB history.Adding 6 5 star recruits ( 5 of which are Mcdonald's AAs) Kentucky still needs to sort out their roster. But once that's finished, expect this team to make some noise.

Ole Miss-Losing Reginald Buckner and Murphy Holloway down low is bound to hurt the Rebs a lot. Not to mention their recruiting class so far is looking pretty weak (A 3 star and a couple of no-names). Don't expect the Rebs to be as good as they were last year.

Vanderbilt- A very young team, the dores are losing no one from last year's squad. But they are also helped out by the addition of Damian Jones (#82- ESPN 100). The dores showed some promise late last year in the SEC tourney, they should show some improvement with their experience from last year along with Jones joining the squad.

Missouri- Frank Haith's seat is getting hot, and the loss of three starters (Bowers, Oriakhi, and Bell) shouldn't help in cooling it down. However, Haith is bringing in a strong recruiting class, ranked 21st in the nation. Joining the Tigers are F- Jonathan Williams (#54 ESPN 100) and G- Wes Clark (#83 ESPN 100). If Pressey can mature over the offseason, Missouri may be able to remain a contender in the SEC.

Tennessee- Make or break year for Coach Cuonzo Martin. Only contributor Big Orange is losing is Skylar Mcbee, the Vols are looking to finally make a return trip to the tournament. With a healthy Jerron Maymon, and incoming guard Robert Hubbs (#34 ESPN 100). Veteran leadership and experience will be the driving force of this team. GO BIG ORANGE!

LSU-Looking to be a very hot team. With a top 10 recruiting class and losing no notable players, Lsu is looking to become a powerhouse. Joining the Tigers are F-Jarrell Martin (#10 ESPN 300), F-Jordan Mickey (#54 ESPN 100), and G-Tim Quarterman (#84 ESPN 100)

Georgia- The one brightspot on this Bulldog team, KCP, is likely going to the draft. Georgia also has a terrible recruiting class coming in. Dog fight for the 13 seed in the SEC tournament this year? (Miss State + Georgia)

Mississippi State- One of the worst SEC teams i've ever had to watch. And besides a 3 star, they're looking at a pretty weak incoming class. Looks like Stansberry got out at the right time.

Texas A&M- TAMU is losing one of the most dynamic players in the SEC in Elston Turner. However, they do have a decent class coming in consisting of a couple of 3 stars. The aggies aren't gonna be a powerhouse, but they should be competitive.

Arkansas- Another team that is losing no talent at all, the razorbacks look to be a pretty good team with an incoming Top 20 class consisting of F- Bobby Portis (#13 ESPN 100) and C-Moses Kingsley (#46 ESPN 100). If BJ Young can continue to grow and Coach Anderson can get his boys to play well away from home (1-13 on the road last season) Arkansas could find themselves in the tournament.

Alabama- Anthony Grant's team seems to be one of the bubble teams every year (much like Tennessee). With all players from last year returning and an incoming top 35 class headed by C-Jimmie Taylor (#71 ESPN 100) and F-Shannon Hale (#94 ESPN 100) Alabama could easily be an SEC contender.

South Carolina- Frank Martin has successfully recruited a top 40 recruiting class headlined by G-Sindarius Thornwell (#39 ESPN 100). The gamecocks have lost no players, so they should show at least some improvement this year.

Auburn-Auburn was a young team last year that lost numerous close games, and their record didn't nearly show how good they actually were. Unfortunately the Tigers are losing a lot of talent this year, and the only real player they're getting out of their recruiting class is a 3 star. At the end of next season you can probably find them down at the bottom of the SEC with Mississippi State and Georgia.

Ranking the teams:
1)Kentucky
2)Florida
3)Tennessee
4)LSU
5)Alabama
6)Missouri
7)Arkansas
8)Ole Miss
9)Vanderbilt
10)Texas A&M
11)South Carolina
12)Auburn
13)Mississippi State
14)Georgia

Thanks for reading! GBO!:clapping:

Good post and some nice research. Thanks for putting all of that together.


A couple of thoughts on Missouri.

Some fans might not be thrilled but Haith's seat isn't even warm yet. So far at Mizzou he is 53-16 with two NCAA tournament appearances and is just now bringing in his own recruits. Granted the results in the tournament haven't been impressive. If he has a complete collapse or misses the tournament next season then his seat will be hot. We should be a tournament team again next year.

When listing the players Missouri is adding you missed one important one. Jordan Clarkson a transfer from Tulsa that sat out this past year. One of Missouri's biggest problems this past season was a lack of quality ball handlers. When Pressey played with a mind of his own Haith didn't have another PG to put in. That's where the loss of Dixon right before the season really hurt the Tigers and probably cost them three or four games. With Clarkson and Clark (Freshman PG) we will have more a lot more options next season.

On Pressey, I honestly haven't decided if I want him to stay or go. He is an amazing talent but losses every close game by trying to be Michael Jordan. Maybe with Clarkson and Clark he won't be allowed to do that if he comes back. If he does come back Pressey and Haith need to get on the same page.

My biggest concern for next season is replacing Bowers and Oriahki in the post. Criswell is good but we are going to need one or two of the freshman or our new JUCO big (Keanau Post) to step up. Guard play should actually be better and three point shooting can't be any worse. Last years team was patched together with a ton of transfers and only had one returning player. I'm hoping next years team will have better team chemistry having had more time together and the fact that they have actually played some games together.

 

[GatorsGators]

BJ Young is gone. He's declaring for the draft (via his Twitter), and since he already declared last season, he can't withdraw.

 

[TeazyT]

BJ Young is gone. He's declaring for the draft (via his Twitter), and since he already declared last season, he can't withdraw.

Thanks i'll update now!

 

[UConnBasketball]

to the experts.

I noticed the site for next years South Regional Semi/Final is Memphis about 5 hrs from Knoxville. Both Memphis and Tennessee should have very talented teams in 2013-14.

Will Maymon recover 100%? Good chance he will.

How quickly will Hubbs game transition to high level D1 competition?

As for Memphis:

Will Black and Adonis Thomas return?
Will Iverson qualify academically?

I will assume both these teams have a legit shot at being placed in the South Region pending big years of course. UConn for instance may have a chance at Madison Square Garden in the East Regional (If Louisville loses a few extra pieces to the draft).

My question for the experts on the board is this:

Since University of Memphis is the host of the South Regional...Would that bar University of Memphis from being placed in the South Region if they had the resume to be seeded and placed there?

I have not researched the history of the NCAA Tournament to get my answer. If anyone knows the answer please let me know. I wanted to post a separate thread but don't have the 100 posts,

Thanks in advance!

 

[Chris4Vols22]

Didn't stop UT from playing the WNCAAs in Knoxville...

 

[zansdad]

Didn't stop UT from playing the WNCAAs in Knoxville...

Women's tourney is played on campus sites to help with attendance. The men's tourney doesn't need that help.

To the original question. I don't think Memphis can play in Memphis, especially not at the forum. UT could play at Memphis but not sure if Memphis would be the closest regional location for Tennessee anyway.

 

[zansdad]

I went and looked it up. Here is what I found from the NCAA site that talks about the selection process:

A team will not be permitted to play in any facility in which it has played more than three games during its season, not including conference post-season tournaments.

A host institution’s team shall not be permitted to play at the site where the institution is hosting. However, the team may play on the same days when the institution is hosting.

So Memphis could theoretically play in the city of Memphis itself as long as site doesn't violate these 2 rules, but in this case since its at the forum, they cannot.

 

[UConnBasketball]

I went and looked it up. Here is what I found from the NCAA site that talks about the selection process:

A team will not be permitted to play in any facility in which it has played more than three games during its season, not including conference post-season tournaments.

A host institution’s team shall not be permitted to play at the site where the institution is hosting. However, the team may play on the same days when the institution is hosting.

So Memphis could theoretically play in the city of Memphis itself as long as site doesn't violate these 2 rules, but in this case since its at the forum, they cannot.

That is very interesting research indeed. Thank you very much. Pretty much helps open up the venue to UT providing a nice geographical advantage.

 

[UConnBasketball]

I agree with this mostly, if young leaves I'd slide Florida below Tennessee though probably. I also think LSU may take a little bit to gel, may swap them and Missouri but its close, they'll be talented. What Kentucky's underclassmen do would dictate where I put them. If harrow and wiltjer transfer which has been rumored, and Noel, stein, poythress and Goodwin all go pro leaving Kentucky with 7 freshman, Polson and Hood I'm not sure I'd give them the number one spot, but jmo.

What happens at Kentucky with the players you mentioned is key. Wiggins decision may hinge on what those players do however. If Kentucky adds Wiggins to this 2013 class that could be scary. I hope your scenario plays out and Kentucky is left with 7 freshman.

Vols need Maymon 100% with everyone returning. I think the Vols can finish ahead of Gators if playing with a full deck. Very close though indeed. Hoping Wiggins heads to FSU and Kentucky at least loses 2 of the 3 you mentioned above. Wiltjer leaving will hurt them as you mentioned as he provides that piece Kentucky had with Miller.

Interesting indeed....

Looks like R. Purvis is considering a transfer to UConn.

 

[GoobieVol]

What happens at Kentucky with the players you mentioned is key. Wiggins decision may hinge on what those players do however. If Kentucky adds Wiggins to this 2013 class that could be scary. I hope your scenario plays out and Kentucky is left with 7 freshman.

Vols need Maymon 100% with everyone returning. I think the Vols can finish ahead of Gators if playing with a full deck. Very close though indeed. Hoping Wiggins heads to FSU and Kentucky at least loses 2 of the 3 you mentioned above. Wiltjer leaving will hurt them as you mentioned as he provides that piece Kentucky had with Miller.

Interesting indeed....

Looks like R. Purvis is considering a transfer to UConn.

Did Purvis just not get the PT at NC state? Wonder why the transfer. He was from NC I thought.?

 

[UConnBasketball]

Did Purvis just not get the PT at NC state? Wonder why the transfer. He was from NC I thought.?

Goodwin leaving Kentucky. Has declared. Read off ESPN site. Purvis liked UConn. It came down to UConn and State. He didn't like how he was used PT ect ect...Boatright, Napier (if doesn't leave prob won't this year) and Daniels will all be gone after next year. UConn has no big recruits yet for 2014 class. Makes sense.

 

[tennrich1]

Kenny contributed about as much to the 2012-2013 squad as Skylar did. From starts, to minutes, to points, to overall effectiveness they were about equal.

Woooo....I think I would completely disagree with that...just from the leadership/basketball understanding of what CCM is trying to do...

 

[GoobieVol]

Goodwin leaving Kentucky. Has declared. Read off ESPN site. Purvis liked UConn. It came down to UConn and State. He didn't like how he was used PT ect ect...Boatright, Napier (if doesn't leave prob won't this year) and Daniels will all be gone after next year. UConn has no big recruits yet for 2014 class. Makes sense.

gotcha. just curious. Didnt watch a lot of NC state this yr, but the few I caught I didnt remember him playing very much. He was a 5* I think too.