Early in Sunday’s game a Vol called out slidind into 3rd when clearly safe…

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brockytop said:
Why no review?
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I was not sure with what they showed and could not put it on my DVR where I can slow it down and blow it up. I do get a bit miffed when it seems the tie only goes to the other teams runners on initial calls.
edited to add the following best shot from the now available replay on ESPN.

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I think umpires get pissed if you challenge every close call. Vandy begged for so many calls. I was happy we did not worry about it.
 
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I thought when Evan popped up he wanted a review, but the dugout or third base coach vetoed it. By that screenshot, he is as safe as can be.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Here is a better screen shot of the play at third. Looks safe to me. Now I can officially get ticked off.

Anybody think he was out NOW? Saw some of those back in the game thread.

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That's a great shot. Kudos for posting that

In hindsight we whooped 'em even with letting this call slide. We didn't need this in order to beat 'em by more than a grand slam. They can have the close calls and we'll still rack up the wins. I hope the umps appreciated us not showing them up again on this one
 
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Volpocalipse said:
We still won, lets just move on to the next game.
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Do you say I have already eaten my meal let's move on when you get stiffed on a bad bill at the restaurant? The error needs to be identified, acknowledged and addressed by management. This crew member needs to be asked what did you see that made you think the defender got to the bag before the runner to incentivize him to get it right the next time. Might be more careful with this on his record. This error did not cost us the game, but it could have been a big factor if the game played out differently. I reserve the right to bitch when we are WRONGED and I have the evidence to back it up. This passes my test.

Would they have overturned the call if we challenged it, or would this have not met their JUDGEMENT that it was enough? One SIMPLE rule change I think needs to be made is that when you have limited challenges, you should not lose one UNLESS video evidence supports the call, not if they play the CALL STANDS card. That risk/reward element change might have corrected this correctable ERROR. Every time they take a teams challenge they need to send the clip or screen shot used to make that determination to the school.

One additional consideration might be that everything that goes through the replay leaders monitor needs to be recorded and filed. We might find the issue is that they were not supplied everything and that needs to be addressed too. Even in our collaborative replay world, I bet the decision makers goes through the local monitor and should be given to each school for each game. To coin a phrase, "what did they know and when did they know it". No need to guess.
 
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Probably bc Corbin literally challenged every play and he didn’t want to look like a crybaby bc he knew we were going to win anyways.
 
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One last post on this replay issue. I have to give the ump a good score for being in the right place to make the call. This is a blow up of the first shot I posted up the page. I know they are all human too, but I don't understand how he made this call from this position. Robbed a player of a great effort play. The bang bang defense has to have it's limits too.

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brockytop said:
Exactly. Replay showed he was clearly safe and there was an opportunity to have a big inning.
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Like most of these situations everybody was robbed of knowing what WOULD have happened. The range could have been from an easy tapper back to the mound or a three pitch stikeout to a grand slam.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Do you say I have already eaten my meal let's move on when you get stiffed on a bad bill at the restaurant? The error needs to be identified, acknowledged and addressed by management. This crew member needs to be asked what did you see that made you think the defender got to the bag before the runner to incentivize him to get it right the next time. Might be more careful with this on his record. This error did not cost us the game, but it could have been a big factor if the game played out differently. I reserve the right to bitch when we are WRONGED and I have the evidence to back it up. This passes my test.

Would they have overturned the call if we challenged it, or would this have not met their JUDGEMENT that it was enough? One SIMPLE rule change I think needs to be made is that when you have limited challenges, you should not lose one UNLESS video evidence supports the call, not if they play the CALL STANDS card. That risk/reward element change might have corrected this correctable ERROR. Every time they take a teams challenge they need to send the clip or screen shot used to make that determination to the school.

One additional consideration might be that everything that goes through the replay leaders monitor needs to be recorded and filed. We might find the issue is that they were not supplied everything and that needs to be addressed too. Even in our collaborative replay world, I bet the decision makers goes through the local monitor and should be given to each school for each game. To coin a phrase, "what did they know and when did they know it". No need to guess.
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This dude typed out three paragraphs over a missed call by an umpire where the play had no effect on the outcome. Nice.
 
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Potentially stupid question about reviews in college baseball. If a runner is ruled out and there is challenge. Since a tie should go to the runner, does all there have to be is evidence that there was at least a tie or does it have to be clear evidence that the runner was safe to overturn?
 
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JVol1986 said:
Potentially stupid question about reviews in college baseball. If a runner is ruled out and there is challenge. Since a tie should go to the runner, does all there have to be is evidence that there was at least a tie or does it have to be clear evidence that the runner was safe to overturn?
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Has to be evidence that he was safe. Officially there is no such thing as a tie — he either beat it or not.
 
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drylo said:
Has to be evidence that he was safe. Officially there is no such thing as a tie — he either beat it or not.
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I think you are right. I have the FB rulebook and the Basketball rulebook, but cannot find a free baseball rulebook to verify the language used. If it parrots MLB it says the runner has to get to the base before he is out. So if they arrive at the same time is that before he is out? I don't have a clue how that is supposed to work, but the tie goes to the runner thingy is a myth in MLB.
 
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