Early Betting Favoring Indiana

#77
#77
sechamp2012 said:
Vandy is a 3 win team it shouldn't matter what kind of D game plane. they hav.
Acy Missouri best DB was out our game and they lost another one in the game . Their freshman DB sub could not stay on the field with any of our WR's . They were very depleted in their D backfield and we exploited as we should have.
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Yeah, yeah, we know, you don't like Guarantano so nothing he does will ever be acceptable to you. If you don't think trying to throw with a driving rainstorm was a big part of the slow start more than the Vandy D, then bless your heart.
 
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VolnJC said:
I don't think I would go near that over under of 49.5 have no faith in our offense putting a whole game together especially without Jennings for a half...but I do think we are a 10-14 point better team than Indiana
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Don't forget how many passes Jennings caught in the last game. He only got in trouble on special teams play. The VOLS will be fine to let him cheer for a half. WGWTFHA!
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Insult? With Indiana having a 39 to 72 Power Rating advantage? Hell it's an Insult to Indiana ; who should be favored by 7--Based on the PR. Vegas is being very generous to UT making The Vols the Fav.
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Those rankings are complete crap. IU has beaten nobody. They only played 4 bowl eligible teams and lost to all 4 of them. This is the type of game where SEC players will bully Big 10...We beat Iowa, Northwestern, and Nebraska easily. It was never a contest in any of those games. We were the better team from beginning to end. I don't think Indiana will be any different.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
In week 11 you have a QB that passed for 400+ yards against a 6-6 team it's no brainer take UT.
In week 12 you have a QB that passed 6 for 17 for a 35% completion rate for 120 yards 1 interception and started the game 0 for 8 with a interception. Against a 3 and 9 team.
It's a no brainer you keep your money in your pocket you have no ideal who will show up at QB and you know a 3 win team will not be in a Bowl game. It's a no go bet.
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UT defense may only allow a couple of field goals to IU. UT offense will be good enough to beat that.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
The Line is based on the Power Rating. SO Indiana is better on paper 39-72 and Vegas has US Favored? I think that's a good bit of respect. Some of Yall be Tripping.
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Well to be fair, the line is based on anticipated betting. So Vegas isn’t saying we’re a better team just that an even amount of money will believe we’re 2 pts better as wont believe that
 
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Billy Ratliff said:
Well to be fair, the line is based on anticipated betting. So Vegas isn’t saying we’re a better team just that an even amount of money will believe we’re 2 pts better as wont believe that
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Tell you what you do, Take UT's Scoring average IU's Scoring average, Then Take both Teams' Points allowed, and find who did best in each category; then add or subtract the point advantage in each category and you will produce the pointspread within 2-3. Vegas doesn't have time to study assumed betting patterns; The Lines are based on Mathematics. Try it. That is another way to determine the Power Rating; which is the Bible to the sportsbooks when setting lines. Once the initial line is made, it is adjusted according to the action. I've been doing this a while. The only thing Vegas does contrary to that is sometimes add a couple points to the Favorite; since Joe Public Loves to bet Favorites.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
Jalen Hurts went in to a new system and was up for heisman. Jake Fromm came in under Chaney his Freshman year had a 160.1 QB rating and went undefeated until Bama beat them in OT in SECC. There others Bo Nix came in at Auburn good year beat Bama and Oregon and some good teams. I could go on and on with QB's that get it with a OC immedieately over Spring and Summer practice.
It shouldn't be that hard like some people are making it out to be it's football that he's played since grade school.
It comes off as excuses.
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These guys are the exception....and they had 2 OCs/playbooks to learn. And surely even the least knowledgeable amongst us dont believe peewee football ans SEC football is the same, especially the QB position..

And time will tell but if he is here next year, he our offense will be greatly improved.
 
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Indiana has benefited from an extremely weak schedule outside of a few teams. They lost to every decent team they played including a 6-6 Michigan State. This, on paper, is another case of UAB. They came into Neyland 6-0 but they hadn't played anyone good at all. Indiana has played good teams and lost to them. Their best win is a 5-7 Nebraska team. Their victories came over teams that were a combined 25-71 this year.
 
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
These guys are the exception....and they had 2 OCs/playbooks to learn. And surely even the least knowledgeable amongst us dont believe peewee football ans SEC football is the same, especially the QB position..

And time will tell but if he is here next year, he our offense will be greatly improved.
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I hope he can show some consistency next year and we win at least 8 games in regular season. Losing Callaway will hurt on the 50/50 balls and JJ going over the middle, Palmer should be good on the outside. JG will be working with different receivers other than Palmer. So I'm not sure if that is equal to working with different OC's. If JG is here next year he will probably be the starter but hope CJP just don't give it to him like last year with no comp. I think being pushed would be positive for JG. He will be working with same OC so I hope ypu are right and he gets it.
I just hope I don't come on here next year and people are saying well he lost JJ, Callsway & DWA so you expect him to struggle. I've just heard excuses when things go south but he will be the starter so I'll be rooting for him GBO.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
Jalen Hurts went in to a new system and was up for heisman. Jake Fromm came in under Chaney his Freshman year had a 160.1 QB rating and went undefeated until Bama beat them in OT in SECC. There others Bo Nix came in at Auburn good year beat Bama and Oregon and some good teams. I could go on and on with QB's that get it with a OC immedieately over Spring and Summer practice.
It shouldn't be that hard like some people are making it out to be it's football that he's played since grade school.
It comes off as excuses.
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And yet Fromm this year after 2 good years sucked it up and is most likely the reason they aren't again in the playoffs, so why did he suck this year SECChamp? Maybe its because he had a different OC, you know like JG has had 4, I am not a JG fan at all but to think having a ton of different OC wouldn't effect his play is completely ignorant. I mean Fromm who you used as an example went backwards quickly from possible 1st rounder to not even close to a 1st rounder and maybe has to stay an extra year. Bo Nix had some really up and down year.
Nix has a lower QBR compared to JG. also against APP top 25 teams he was at 49.5% completion rate with a 7TD-6Int ratio
Against bama he went 15-30 for 173, Florida 11/27 for 145 with 1 TD and 3 INT, TAMU-12/20 100 yards. I mean he pretty much played every snap of every game and pretty much was a game manager. Nothing wrong with that and I would take that with JG, but lets not pretend he was very consisten either, I mean he had 4 games of over 200 yards all year in 12 games. His highest was against Ole Miss at 340 and Ms State with 335. Against Ms State we threw a total of 14 passes the entire game with JG only doing 7 of those with 6 completions.
 
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Bigorangefaninga said:
And yet Fromm this year after 2 good years sucked it up and is most likely the reason they aren't again in the playoffs, so why did he suck this year SECChamp? Maybe its because he had a different OC, you know like JG has had 4, I am not a JG fan at all but to think having a ton of different OC wouldn't effect his play is completely ignorant. I mean Fromm who you used as an example went backwards quickly from possible 1st rounder to not even close to a 1st rounder and maybe has to stay an extra year. Bo Nix had some really up and down year.
Nix has a lower QBR compared to JG. also against APP top 25 teams he was at 49.5% completion rate with a 7TD-6Int ratio
Against bama he went 15-30 for 173, Florida 11/27 for 145 with 1 TD and 3 INT, TAMU-12/20 100 yards. I mean he pretty much played every snap of every game and pretty much was a game manager. Nothing wrong with that and I would take that with JG, but lets not pretend he was very consisten either, I mean he had 4 games of over 200 yards all year in 12 games. His highest was against Ole Miss at 340 and Ms State with 335. Against Ms State we threw a total of 14 passes the entire game with JG only doing 7 of those with 6 completions.
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You don't wanna compare top 25 teams. Your RSJR QB compeleted 47% with no tds and 2 ints. Not a good look in stats for your argument..
 
#93
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sechamp2012 said:
In week 11 you have a QB that passed for 400+ yards against a 6-6 team it's no brainer take UT.
In week 12 you have a QB that passed 6 for 17 for a 35% completion rate for 120 yards 1 interception and started the game 0 for 8 with a interception. Against a 3 and 9 team.
It's a no brainer you keep your money in your pocket you have no ideal who will show up at QB and you know a 3 win team will not be in a Bowl game. It's a no go bet.
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Two days after his grandmother passed away. I'd like to see you do any better under those circumstances.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
In week 11 you have a QB that passed for 400+ yards against a 6-6 team it's no brainer take UT.
In week 12 you have a QB that passed 6 for 17 for a 35% completion rate for 120 yards 1 interception and started the game 0 for 8 with a interception. Against a 3 and 9 team.
It's a no brainer you keep your money in your pocket you have no ideal who will show up at QB and you know a 3 win team will not be in a Bowl game. It's a no go bet.
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*Idea
 
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#95
WilliamDuVOL said:
Indiana has benefited from an extremely weak schedule outside of a few teams. They lost to every decent team they played including a 6-6 Michigan State. This, on paper, is another case of UAB. They came into Neyland 6-0 but they hadn't played anyone good at all. Indiana has played good teams and lost to them. Their best win is a 5-7 Nebraska team. Their victories came over teams that were a combined 25-71 this year.
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In other words, the teams they beat win 26% of the time!
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Tell you what you do, Take UT's Scoring average IU's Scoring average, Then Take both Teams' Points allowed, and find who did best in each category; then add or subtract the point advantage in each category and you will produce the pointspread within 2-3. Vegas doesn't have time to study assumed betting patterns; The Lines are based on Mathematics. Try it. That is another way to determine the Power Rating; which is the Bible to the sportsbooks when setting lines. Once the initial line is made, it is adjusted according to the action. I've been doing this a while. The only thing Vegas does contrary to that is sometimes add a couple points to the Favorite; since Joe Public Loves to bet Favorites.
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Cool?
 
#98
#98
DoyleMcOrange said:
Our offense will greatly improve when we have a QB that car stretch the field and hit receivers in stride.
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I dont disagree with JGs inability to hit guys in stride..that has driven me crazy since he first took over.

Of course Dobbs suffered the same inability.. i remember seeing Dormady come in in mop up duty and actually hit a guy in stride and got so excited. However there is more to the qb position than being a great downfield passer. Is it important? Sure. Exciting? Certainly. Howvere if you cant read the defense you are going to struggle


So if someone ahows up as game prepped as JG that can so those things he struggles with, they will take over.
 
#100
#100
I have no reason to believe Indiana is a better team than UT.

I also have no reason to believe UT will win easily.
 
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