Duce Staley blasts David Reaves

[Sewaneetigers]

For as much as they mouth off historically they have sucked worse than any team currently in the conference.

The University of South Carolina began playing football in 1892. Since then, they have had an all-time winning percentage under .500, which ranks 92nd all-time in D-1A football...only 25 programs have been worse.

Since the Associated Press began ranking football teams in 1936, the Gamecocks have finished in the top 20 of the rankings only five times. Carolina has never finished in the Top 10 of a major recognized poll. South Carolina won its first bowl game 103 years after they started playing football. In over 100 seasons of football, Carolina has yet to participate in one of the "Big 5" Bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton).

Conference Play
In the 50+ seasons Carolina has been affiliated with a conference, they have won that conference once...the ACC in 1969, with a 7-4 record.

 

[thunder5]

Have him, he pulled everything out the bag for Giles and came up way short. But he and kiffin we have time over christmas since tennessee isnt going anywhere, to tune down on the cockyness, and realize that your recruiting in the best conference in america! This is southern cal where the great players come to you, Kiffin will realize that very soon. Kiffin has had it easy his whole life.

Yeah...Kiffin was so overwhelmed by the loss of Giles that he proceeded to land a 4* recruit about 1 hour later....

Man....talking trash with USCe fans is so easy

 

[gainesvol82]

What people dont understand is before Spurrier got their our program and facilities where horrible, and now the facilities are becoming one of the best in the sec. Spurrier is doing alot more for Carolina than people think. It takes time to fix a program that was in the crapper. He has done so much outside of football its rediculous. Spurrier will win at Carolina. Now that our facilities updated, we are ready to compete. Yes Tennessee has a great past and is a great football program. But yall have no idea what Spurrier has for Carolina. Now that he is recruiting well, its only a matter of time before Spurrier gets to were he wants to be. Spurrier will win!

Spurrier has helped USC lift itself from being an SEC doormat like Vandy, KY, or Miss St. You guys have reached the status of mediocre and it's probably going to be your peak. You guys crack will continue to crack the top 25 in the beginning of the season until you play the meat of your schedule and end up losing 5 or 6 games a year. UT has just recently reached mediocrity status and did something about it to put us back on top. Our idea of mediocrity, which is unacceptable to us, is your idea of success. The mindstate of the two programs illustrates why USC will never be on UT's level. That and the fact that you aren't even the premier college football team in your state. Enjoy being able to keep some of your instate talent while you can because they will soon be scooped up by Dabo at Clemson or start heading back up I26 over to I40 and in to Knoxville.

 

[therickbol]

Let me make sure that this is right. USCe had a great year by their standards and they are 7-5. UT had a horrendous year, one bad enough to fire the coach an they re 5-7. That is a difference of two whole games. That seems to be a telling reality right there.

 

[orangeaid]

For what its worth, Hooker is gonna have Staley's audio on the Sports Animal sometime this morning.

 

[thunder5]

Let me make sure that this is right. USCe had a great year by their standards and they are 7-5. UT had a horrendous year, one bad enough to fire the coach an they re 5-7. That is a difference of two whole games. That seems to be a telling reality right there.

And only 1 game in the SEC standings

 

[gainesvol82]

EXACTLY! And the "me first" crowd are also one of the root causes of the decline we have witnessed under CPF. See Kelly Washington, Casey Clausen, Donte Stallworth, Robert Meacham, Cosey Coleman, Gerald Riggs, Troy Fleming, Arian Foster, Josh Brisco, etc, etc, etc.

Troy Fleming was a great guy. How was he a "me first" player? I don't think Meacham, Briscoe or Foster fit in that category either.

 

[OrangeU]

wasn't fleming the one on the phone at halftime of the chik-fil-a bowl? i think that's what has tarnished his image with some. foster's little pterydactyl speak fiasco is enough to categorize him as a me-monster, imo. i agree with you on meacham and briscoe however

 

[badkarma]

Reaves can make up all these lies and Kiffin can go ahead and show every player a video of Reggie Bush and tell the player there going to be like bush. What a joke. Giles was smart and made a good choice. Tennessee is going down hill. Lane kiffin thinks he is going to get all these great players just b/c he coached at southern cal, fyi kiffin.....you dont have pete carroll any more. Spurrier owns the vols and will continue to do so, he wooped yall on the field, and now he is taking ur players! Sad day for vol fans, but lane kiffin is going to make yall national champions right? haha riiiiggghhhttt.....27-6

Rock bottom...21-4-2 lol:That is the overall record Tennessee vs the 'cocks, you average 1 win against us just under every 7 years.
so, yea...gloat...you all won one...
We play for SEC Championships and, you all play for a winning season and a trip in a thrid rate bowl game. Kick us while we are down, take your shot...we will be back and well you will still suck

 

[G'Town Vol]

Yeah, Fleming was on the phone because his sister had a baby, right? If that's the truth, damn him to Hell for celebrating a new addition to his family. :blink:

 

[peaygolf89]

If we were 12-2 and Memphis was our only option, I would rather stay home.

Dumb remark!

Id rather have a winning record and go to any bowl, than be 5-7.

 

[gainesvol82]

Yeah, Fleming was on the phone because his sister had a baby, right? If that's the truth, damn him to Hell for celebrating a new addition to his family. :blink:

Troy Fleming was my neighbor when I lived at Sutters Mill in Knoxville. That guy is a class act and was not "me-first" in any way when it came to playing for UT. Foster has never been considered a bad teammate by other UT players. I have my criticisms of his play and I haven't always like his attitude but labeling him as "me-first", a malcontent or selfish is not fair and shouldn't be done by people who are ignorant as to what type of person he really is. I'm sure we would have heard if he was thought of as a bad teammate. Don't hold CPF's misguided loyalty to Arian against him.

 

[Spoon]

Yeah, Fleming was on the phone because his sister had a baby, right? If that's the truth, damn him to Hell for celebrating a new addition to his family. :blink:

Nothing wrong with celebrating a new addition to the family, but on the sideline at a football game that you are playing in is ridiculous! The fact that he had a phone on the sideline and then thought it was OK to use it during the game shows me what his attitude toward that game was and what little respect he had for his coach and teammates. It also demonstrates how CPF slowly lost control over his players and thier overall lack of respect for him.

As far as Arian is concerned, watching him walk off the field, by himself, while the rest of his teammates were celebrating CPF's final victory at UT is his career in a microcosm IMO. Bottom line, he is gone now & hopefully a lot of things are going to change. BTW, I wish him luck getting signed as a free agent after the draft!

 

[kcvols1]

our program can only go up

How soon we forget!

Signed,

Anthony Wright

PS- Dabo Swinney says for you to turn off the computer and do your homework. Oh yeah, he also says Columbia sucks.

 

[9296potsguy]

Dumb remark!

Id rather have a winning record and go to any bowl, than be 5-7.

Since you know a thing or two about dumb remarks, I would tend to agree with you. But I don't want our bowl records littered with crappy bowls. I find it to be a huge embarressment to go to those bowls, moreso than not going at all.

 

[peaygolf89]

Since you know a thing or two about dumb remarks, I would tend to agree with you. But I don't want our bowl records littered with crappy bowls. I find it to be a huge embarressment to go to those bowls, moreso than not going at all.

Remarks like yours will make you look even dumber.

can honestly say you would rather have a losing record, than go to any bowl?????

 

[9296potsguy]

Remarks like yours will make you look even dumber.

can honestly say you would rather have a losing record, than go to any bowl?????

ND used to have a policy that certain bowls were beneath them. I like to think with our tradition we would do the same. Am I saying that I would rather our record be sub-.500? Absolutely not. Anytime you feel like dispensing with the "dumb" remarks is fine by me.

 

[justingroves]

Troy Fleming was a great guy. How was he a "me first" player? I don't think Meacham, Briscoe or Foster fit in that category either.

Especially Robert Meachem

 

[Shineonme]

Hey guys, Gamecock fan here. I have no interest in participating in juvenile banter or flames. I do want to shed some light on a few things about this radio confrontation.

1. David Reaves is the son of John Reaves a former QB with Florida and former coach under Spurrier. Jon Reaves came to Columbia and coached Brad Scotts last year with Gamecocks. That is how David came to Columbia. David Reaves had been on Lou Holtz staff and Steve held him over for his staff.

2. David's father Jon has been in a battle with drugs for several years. During this time Steve has helped support him and his family in many ways. When Jon was arrested in Florida with Cocaine and a illegal hand gun a few months ago, Spurrier protected David Reaves from the media and did not allow the topic to be questioned in public.

3. Duce and David are friends, Duce is the sideline reporter for the radio network and is involved with the team and coaches.

What he was primarily upset about had nothing at all to do with the University of Tennessee. He heard that David had told lies about Spurriers intentions to retire next year to MANY recruits.

Duce was outraged not about the damage to South Carolinas recruiting efforts, but by the fact he would lie about someone who had done so much for him and his family.

His radio comments went on to say that the appropitate way to have handled the situation was to have just told the truth and said I am at a new school, come see what we have to offer.

David did say he never said that about Steve Spurrier, but not one, but several recruits have reported he did, so it is one of the classic "who do you beleive" situations.

Ok, as for the South Carolina program, here we go:

In the 1970's South Carolina built facilities for their sports programs that were 2nd to none. Well they pretty much stayed the same 1970's grade until recently. Blame bad politics for most of it.They are about half way done now with upgrades, and when they are finished they will pretty much be on par with the best in the SEC and hence the country.

When SC joined the SEC in the 1990's they pretty much competed with East Carolina, Duke, Virginia, NC State for their recruits. They would get the occasional top 10 in SC guy, but for the most part the best players left the state.

Since 2000 when Holtz came aboard, this started to change. South Carolina and Clemson started to get most of the talent in the state. Those we recruited against started having names like Georgia, UT, Florida State, Alabama and so on.

Spurrier in 5 recruiting classes has a 25, 23, 6, 18, and currently 8 class in the country.

The schools revenues (not including the new tv money which we all will get) went from $42 million a year and 8th in the SEC in 2005, to $65 million and 5th in the SEC this year.

Here is the win - loss SEC record this decade so far:

Florida 55-19
UGA 53-22
LSU 53-23
Aub 50-24
Tenn 47-28
Bama 38-34
SC 34-38
Ark 34-40
Ole Miss 29-43
Miss St 17-55
Kent 17-55
Vandy 13-59

UT 5th and SC 7th

Neither program is happy there. I am not one who thinks SC has passed UT nor do I think UT has stayed ahead of SC, I think the East is in a new pattern where Florida at the moment is in the cat bird seat, and UGA UT SC can finish anywhere from 2nd the 4th.

This year excluded Vandy and Kentucky cannot go into the year expecting with their talent level to compete.

The difference in SC's program now is that the talent level is now top 15 as opposed to top 50 grade as was the case in the 1990's.

This is primarily because of coaching moves, but the AD is smart and has been upgrading facilities and revenue in the mean time. So quite simply the playing field has been leveled in that way, and I think that is all realistic Gamecock fans are attempting to get across.

 

[9296potsguy]

Hey guys, Gamecock fan here. I have no interest in participating in juvenile banter or flames. I do want to shed some light on a few things about this radio confrontation.

1. David Reaves is the son of John Reaves a former QB with Florida and former coach under Spurrier. Jon Reaves came to Columbia and coached Brad Scotts last year with Gamecocks. That is how David came to Columbia. David Reaves had been on Lou Holtz staff and Steve held him over for his staff.

2. David's father Jon has been in a battle with drugs for several years. During this time Steve has helped support him and his family in many ways. When Jon was arrested in Florida with Cocaine and a illegal hand gun a few months ago, Spurrier protected David Reaves from the media and did not allow the topic to be questioned in public.

3. Duce and David are friends, Duce is the sideline reporter for the radio network and is involved with the team and coaches.

What he was primarily upset about had nothing at all to do with the University of Tennessee. He heard that David had told lies about Spurriers intentions to retire next year to MANY recruits.

Duce was outraged not about the damage to South Carolinas recruiting efforts, but by the fact he would lie to someone who had done so much for him and his family.

His radio comments went on to say that the appropitate way to have handled the situation was to have just told the truth and said I am at a new school, come see what we have to offer.

David did say he never said that about Steve Spurrier, but not one, but several recruits have reported he did, so it is one of the classic "who do you beleive" situations.

Ok, as for the South Carolina program, here we go:

In the 1970's South Carolina built facilities for their sports programs that were 2nd to none. Well they pretty much stayed the same until recently. They are about half way done now, and when they are finished they will pretty much be on par with the best in the SEC and hence the country.

When SC joined the SEC in the 1990's they pretty much competed with East Carolina, Duke, Virginia, NC State for their recruits. They would get the occasional top 10 in SC guy, but for the most part the best players left the state.

Since 2000 when Holtz came aboard, this started to change. South Carolina and Clemson started to get most of the talent in the state. Those we recruited against started having names like Georgia, UT, Florida State, Alabama and so on.

Spurrier in 5 recruting classes has a 23, 6, 18, and currently 8 class in the country.

The schools revenues (not including the new tv money which we all will get) went from $42 million a year and 8th in the SEC in 2005, to $65 million and 5th in the SEC this year.

Here is the win - loss SEC record this decade so far:

Florida 55-19
UGA 53-22
LSU 53-23
Aub 50-24
Tenn 47-28
Bama 38-34
SC 34-38
Ark 34-40
Ole Miss 29-43
Miss St 17-55
Kent 17-55
Vandy 13-59

UT 5th and SC 7th

Neither program is happy there. I am not one who thinks SC has passed UT nor do I think UT has passed SC, I think the East is in a new pattern where Florida at the moment is in the cat bird seat, and UGA UT SC can finish anywhere from 2nd the 4th.

This year excluded Vandy and Kentucky cannot go into the year expecting with their talent level to compete.

The difference in SC's program now is that the talent level is now top 15 as opposed to top 50 grade as was the case in the 1990's.

This is primarily because of coaching moves, but the AD is smart and had been upgrading facilities and revenue in the mean time. So quite simply the playing field has been leveled in that way, and I think that is all realistic Gamecock fans are attempting to get across.

I wouldn't look too much into that 5th and 7th place deal.

5th place =19 games above .500
7th =4 games below .500

Nothing shows that USC is really headed in the right direction under Spurrier as one year isn't that different from the year before. One year does not put USC passing UT on any level.

 

[justingroves]

The difference in SC's program now is that the talent level is now top 15 as opposed to top 50 grade as was the case in the 1990's.

Yet you are still getting 50's grade records from top 15 talent.

 

[gainesvol82]

Hey guys, Gamecock fan here. I have no interest in participating in juvenile banter or flames. I do want to shed some light on a few things about this radio confrontation.

1. David Reaves is the son of John Reaves a former QB with Florida and former coach under Spurrier. Jon Reaves came to Columbia and coached Brad Scotts last year with Gamecocks. That is how David came to Columbia. David Reaves had been on Lou Holtz staff and Steve held him over for his staff.

2. David's father Jon has been in a battle with drugs for several years. During this time Steve has helped support him and his family in many ways. When Jon was arrested in Florida with Cocaine and a illegal hand gun a few months ago, Spurrier protected David Reaves from the media and did not allow the topic to be questioned in public.

3. Duce and David are friends, Duce is the sideline reporter for the radio network and is involved with the team and coaches.

What he was primarily upset about had nothing at all to do with the University of Tennessee. He heard that David had told lies about Spurriers intentions to retire next year to MANY recruits.

Duce was outraged not about the damage to South Carolinas recruiting efforts, but by the fact he would lie about someone who had done so much for him and his family.

His radio comments went on to say that the appropitate way to have handled the situation was to have just told the truth and said I am at a new school, come see what we have to offer.

David did say he never said that about Steve Spurrier, but not one, but several recruits have reported he did, so it is one of the classic "who do you beleive" situations.

Ok, as for the South Carolina program, here we go:

In the 1970's South Carolina built facilities for their sports programs that were 2nd to none. Well they pretty much stayed the same 1970's grade until recently. Blame bad politics for most of it.They are about half way done now with upgrades, and when they are finished they will pretty much be on par with the best in the SEC and hence the country.

When SC joined the SEC in the 1990's they pretty much competed with East Carolina, Duke, Virginia, NC State for their recruits. They would get the occasional top 10 in SC guy, but for the most part the best players left the state.

Since 2000 when Holtz came aboard, this started to change. South Carolina and Clemson started to get most of the talent in the state. Those we recruited against started having names like Georgia, UT, Florida State, Alabama and so on.

Spurrier in 5 recruiting classes has a 23, 6, 18, and currently 8 class in the country.

The schools revenues (not including the new tv money which we all will get) went from $42 million a year and 8th in the SEC in 2005, to $65 million and 5th in the SEC this year.

Here is the win - loss SEC record this decade so far:

Florida 55-19
UGA 53-22
LSU 53-23
Aub 50-24
Tenn 47-28
Bama 38-34
SC 34-38
Ark 34-40
Ole Miss 29-43
Miss St 17-55
Kent 17-55
Vandy 13-59

UT 5th and SC 7th

Neither program is happy there. I am not one who thinks SC has passed UT nor do I think UT has stayed ahead of SC, I think the East is in a new pattern where Florida at the moment is in the cat bird seat, and UGA UT SC can finish anywhere from 2nd the 4th.

This year excluded Vandy and Kentucky cannot go into the year expecting with their talent level to compete.

The difference in SC's program now is that the talent level is now top 15 as opposed to top 50 grade as was the case in the 1990's.

This is primarily because of coaching moves, but the AD is smart and has been upgrading facilities and revenue in the mean time. So quite simply the playing field has been leveled in that way, and I think that is all realistic Gamecock fans are attempting to get across.

Nice, well thought out post. I have only two issues with it. You only listed 4 recruiting classes from Spurrier, not 5. Also, UT has no need to pass SC. We've always been ahead of them and would have no need to pass them unless we had fallen behind at some point.

 

[Shineonme]

I wouldn't look too much into that 5th and 7th place deal.

5th place =19 games above .500
7th =4 games below .500

Nothing shows that USC is really headed in the right direction under Spurrier as one year isn't that different from the year before. One year does not put USC passing UT on any level.

You are right record wise, it is ho humm. But talent wise, facility wise, and revenue wise it is night and day. Trust me, Gamecock fans will soon grumble if the won-loss record does not upgrade along with everything else.

 

[Shineonme]

Nice, well thought out post. I have only two issues with it. You only listed 4 recruiting classes from Spurrier, not 5. Also, UT hasn't passed SC. We've always been ahead of them and would have no need to pass them unless we had fallen behind at some point.

I caught both of those points in the edit. Yeah Spurrier has had a 6, 18, 23, 25 and working on an 8 class right now.

Correct, you will see where I stated, Tenn does not have to pass SC since they were ahead, I put them equal as of this date.

 

[KB5252]

Hey guys, Gamecock fan here. I have no interest in participating in juvenile banter or flames. I do want to shed some light on a few things about this radio confrontation.

1. David Reaves is the son of John Reaves a former QB with Florida and former coach under Spurrier. Jon Reaves came to Columbia and coached Brad Scotts last year with Gamecocks. That is how David came to Columbia. David Reaves had been on Lou Holtz staff and Steve held him over for his staff.

2. David's father Jon has been in a battle with drugs for several years. During this time Steve has helped support him and his family in many ways. When Jon was arrested in Florida with Cocaine and a illegal hand gun a few months ago, Spurrier protected David Reaves from the media and did not allow the topic to be questioned in public.

3. Duce and David are friends, Duce is the sideline reporter for the radio network and is involved with the team and coaches.

What he was primarily upset about had nothing at all to do with the University of Tennessee. He heard that David had told lies about Spurriers intentions to retire next year to MANY recruits.

Duce was outraged not about the damage to South Carolinas recruiting efforts, but by the fact he would lie about someone who had done so much for him and his family.

His radio comments went on to say that the appropitate way to have handled the situation was to have just told the truth and said I am at a new school, come see what we have to offer.

David did say he never said that about Steve Spurrier, but not one, but several recruits have reported he did, so it is one of the classic "who do you beleive" situations.

Ok, as for the South Carolina program, here we go:

In the 1970's South Carolina built facilities for their sports programs that were 2nd to none. Well they pretty much stayed the same 1970's grade until recently. Blame bad politics for most of it.They are about half way done now with upgrades, and when they are finished they will pretty much be on par with the best in the SEC and hence the country.

When SC joined the SEC in the 1990's they pretty much competed with East Carolina, Duke, Virginia, NC State for their recruits. They would get the occasional top 10 in SC guy, but for the most part the best players left the state.

Since 2000 when Holtz came aboard, this started to change. South Carolina and Clemson started to get most of the talent in the state. Those we recruited against started having names like Georgia, UT, Florida State, Alabama and so on.

Spurrier in 5 recruiting classes has a 23, 6, 18, and currently 8 class in the country.

The schools revenues (not including the new tv money which we all will get) went from $42 million a year and 8th in the SEC in 2005, to $65 million and 5th in the SEC this year.

Here is the win - loss SEC record this decade so far:

Florida 55-19
UGA 53-22
LSU 53-23
Aub 50-24
Tenn 47-28
Bama 38-34
SC 34-38
Ark 34-40
Ole Miss 29-43
Miss St 17-55
Kent 17-55
Vandy 13-59

UT 5th and SC 7th

Neither program is happy there. I am not one who thinks SC has passed UT nor do I think UT has passed SC, I think the East is in a new pattern where Florida at the moment is in the cat bird seat, and UGA UT SC can finish anywhere from 2nd the 4th.

This year excluded Vandy and Kentucky cannot go into the year expecting with their talent level to compete.

The difference in SC's program now is that the talent level is now top 15 as opposed to top 50 grade as was the case in the 1990's.

This is primarily because of coaching moves, but the AD is smart and had been upgrading facilities and revenue in the mean time. So quite simply the playing field has been leveled in that way, and I think that is all realistic Gamecock fans are attempting to get across.

Good info.

With that being said placing UT and SC on even ground at this point is not really logical. At your current pace of success you would need to keep it up for at least a few more years, without UT improving.

Facilities are very important for any universities success, however that does not mean you will succeed. SC's draft classes are better, but without major success those will fall off, players will only buy into it for so long without the proof in the pudding so to speak. Trust us we know plenty about this subject.

Bottom line is Spurrier has to deliver to take this program up a notch. This was supposed to be the year he had the pieces in place to do so. It didn't work out, if there is no improvement next year you can expect to see some of those recruits fail to buy in and look elsewhere. The recruiting trail keeps getting harder in the SEC every year, it looks like this conference will have many great recruiters for some time.